Summer 2011

[RED.DUB]

jesus what a shit thread this is.

[Kopite Pete]

The Mancs are well worried by us. They know next season is going to be a very different.

 

City have spent a £300-£400m and still haven't come close to catching the dirty Mancs, I doubt they are worried about us just yet.

[George Costanza]

The Mancs will be stronger next season. This season they have been average and relied heavily on luck and their will to win.

 

we need 4 or 5 quality additions to even think about competing with them

[Chinandeler Bong]

The Premier League season in numbers | Mail Online

 

[Red Nick]

Lille won the french title tonight which probably wont make it any easier to buy their players but the first time in 57 years is quite an achievment

[Trucker Paddy]

 

I can send you the accounts if you like. PM me your email.

 

You still telling everybody your chairman Mao's nephew

[George Costanza]

Lille won the french title tonight which probably wont make it any easier to buy their players but the first time in 57 years is quite an achievment

 

Most footballers are like prostitutes.. they'll go to whoever pays them the most. There is zero loyalty anymore.

[RED.DUB]

Most footballers are like prostitutes.. they'll go to whoever pays them the most. There is zero loyalty anymore.

myth, wanting to better yourself is natural and common in every walk of life.

[piscinin]

You still telling everybody your chairman Mao's nephew

 

eh?

[piscinin]

So is Ian Ayre wrong when he says:

 

 

 

Is he telling fibs?

 

This says that we're paying £3m a year in interest.

 

You tell me. Is 100m minimal? If the owners pay that off then that is what I would call minimal. If they renew it then I wouldn't.

 

3m in interest is fine, but cost of financing is more than just interest. There is not a chance in hell we will pay just 3m servicing that level of debt. Arrangement fees alone will exceed that.

[Chinandeler Bong]

The King in his Daily Mail article -

 

But my personal favourite this season is Luka Modric, a really gifted footballer who, at 25, is going to entertain us for many years ahead

 

Read more: Kenny Dalglish: Now referees must be allowed to speak up for themselves | Mail Online

[piscinin]

I think TTNBD has summed that up superbly and should have put peoples mind at rest.

 

You almost make it sound like the fact that we shortly have to pay back or refinance 50m secured on a figment of TH's imagination is a good thing. Their legacy lives on. No-one is saying we are going bankrupt but let's be realistic here. We are not free of them yet.

 

And as Tim said, "We are back to where we were in 2007". Which if I remember rightly was needing to sell to raise money to remain competitive.

 

FSG still have work to do to dig us out of this hole. If that means in the short-term they adopt a 2 in 2 out approach a) all power to them for taking a measured approach b) don't assume it's a stitch up. They have real constraints like two different stadium projects to pay for, etc.

[Code]

Mirror reporting that Utd have stepped in for Enrique and beaten us too it.

 

Lets all pray and hope so.

[Dundalis]

When people say we only need a couple signings, in relation to what? Being a top 4 team next season or challenging?

 

Because we sure as fuck aren't a couple signings away from challenging.

[18-5]

You tell me. Is 100m minimal? If the owners pay that off then that is what I would call minimal. If they renew it then I wouldn't.

 

3m in interest is fine, but cost of financing is more than just interest. There is not a chance in hell we will pay just 3m servicing that level of debt. Arrangement fees alone will exceed that.

 

Dude our debt is in the 25-30 million range. Where did you get the 100 million figure from?

[Unrighteous]

Dude our debt is in the 25-30 million range. Where did you get the 100 million figure from?

 

He's going off an article that has our last years accounts.

[Unrighteous]

When people say we only need a couple signings, in relation to what? Being a top 4 team next season or challenging?

 

Because we sure as fuck aren't a couple signings away from challenging.

 

... You know just Enrique, Mata, and Young would have us challenging for the title, right?

 

We have one route at the moment, to go through our midfield, but no pressure outwide so it's easier to defeat.

 

United win based on having wide options and central options. It's hard to defend against both. Two wingers, and we've got wide options every match.

[Chippo]

Lets all pray and hope so.

 

Once again you show your skills at spotting talent...

[18-5]

He's going off an article that has our last years accounts.

 

Even the 30 million debt we have is the stadium debt which will not come into UEFA fair play calculations.

 

Who charges 3 million interest on 100 million debt ffs? :wallbutt:

[18-5]

... You know just Enrique, Mata, and Young would have us challenging for the title, right?

 

We have one route at the moment, to go through our midfield, but no pressure outwide so it's easier to defeat.

 

United win based on having wide options and central options. It's hard to defend against both. Two wingers, and we've got wide options every match.

 

Agree.

 

We need midfield strength too. We got slaughtered by Spurs in the midfield last week. Though that may be because of playing only two in the midfield against them.

[piscinin]

Even the 30 million debt we have is the stadium debt which will not come into UEFA fair play calculations.

 

Who charges 3 million interest on 100 million debt ffs? :wallbutt:

 

Stadium debt alone is 47m. Where are you getting your #s from?

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

You tell me.

 

I can't tell you, because I'm not privy to the information I'd need to make that call. I doubt anybody on here is.

 

Is 100m minimal?

 

I think 'does it exist' is probably more important.

 

If the owners pay that off then that is what I would call minimal. If they renew it then I wouldn't.

 

3m in interest is fine, but cost of financing is more than just interest. There is not a chance in hell we will pay just 3m servicing that level of debt. Arrangement fees alone will exceed that.

 

So you're saying he's telling lies? Are you judging this solely on last year's accounts or do you have other solid information that proves they're telling fibs?

[The Great Jacko]

This is a transfer thread FFS. I realise budget and debt have some relevance but this is not the thread for a full on discussion.

[Tyler Durden]

This is a transfer thread FFS. I realise budget and debt have some relevance but this is not the thread for a full on discussion.

 

It's absolutely burnt my head out, I come on here to look at any transfer articles posted and I've got to read all this bollocks about accounts. Go and dig up a finance thread if you all want to argue about that shite now

[lfc_sotorious]

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2011/05/18/sportscribddoc.pdf

 

These were the figures published for accounts up to july 2010 saying our debt is 123m. I thought it was around 380 last july