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South Africa vs England


Vincent Vega
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The last 9 captains to win the toss have won the game. 8 of those have batted first.

 

Except in this case SA asked for a bowlers wicket. Alan Donald was on the local coverage and he said he was asked by Flowers for his thoughts. Donald told Flowers that he would bowl first.

Even if the wicket wasn't doing much putting SA in first would have put them under pressure to score runs quickly as weather delays are going to happen. Going after runs brings wickets.

Having said all of the above Englands top order failed again. OK Cooke got a shocker (even with a replay) but Trott and Petersen appear tp have really done no thinking about a game plan.

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Except in this case SA asked for a bowlers wicket. Alan Donald was on the local coverage and he said he was asked by Flowers for his thoughts. Donald told Flowers that he would bowl first.

Even if the wicket wasn't doing much putting SA in first would have put them under pressure to score runs quickly as weather delays are going to happen. Going after runs brings wickets.

Having said all of the above Englands top order failed again. OK Cooke got a shocker (even with a replay) but Trott and Petersen appear tp have really done no thinking about a game plan.

 

Good post. Strauss just kopped out and thought if he batted first and piled the runs on then it was game over. If he had put the South Africans in they were never going to score quick on this pitch and it would have put them under immense pressure to put a decent total up and then get their timing right when to declare in both innings should we not bowl them out. Strauss handed their bowlers an incentive and they took it. Still not over as the weather forecast is not good and they still have to get a lead and then bowl us out again. More twists and turns in this match yet imo.

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That incident with Smith not getting given out after the referral today was a fucking farce. Thats two ridiculous decisions now in this test, both after referrals. It's disgraceful.

 

He didn't turn the volume up on his speakers. What's the point of technology if the officials don't even know how to use it!?

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Bollocks, thought we'd got De Villiers but at least we've had 3 quick wickets this morning. The referal that De Villiers just had gave him not out because it was going over but I thought that the 3rd umpire didn't see the end part of Hawk eye. Does the umpire get the full track of the ball or just were the ball hits the pad?

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Daryl Harper has had a great series...

 

Him and Rudi Koertzen (sic) are two of the worst umpires to have ever graced the game. How they became elite panel I have no idea.

 

Bring back Bucknor and Venkat.

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Bollocks, thought we'd got De Villiers but at least we've had 3 quick wickets this morning. The referal that De Villiers just had gave him not out because it was going over but I thought that the 3rd umpire didn't see the end part of Hawk eye. Does the umpire get the full track of the ball or just were the ball hits the pad?

 

He gets to see how far the ball pitched from the stumps. Presumably at the start of every match, depending on the pitch, they come to some sort of agreement about at what length the ball is going over the top. So maybe anything pitching further away than 2.7m (for e.g) from the stumps they give not out.

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Him and Rudi Koertzen (sic) are two of the worst umpires to have ever graced the game. How they became elite panel I have no idea.

 

Bring back Bucknor and Venkat.

 

Indeed. I've said this many times before, possibly even on this thread, that Harper and Koertzen aren't even fit to Umpire in club Cricket. They are appalling, Harper is the worst that I have ever seen.

Taufel, Dhar and Bowden are three best Umpires out there, sadly they can't be everywhere all the time.

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Laughably here everybody thinks England are going on too much about the Smith decision referring back to the Atherton incident with Donald as an example and sort of completely missing the point about the referral system. Would love to havbe seen the reaction if the shoe had been on the other foot. Having said that England's batting has been particularly shite in this game and SA will win at a canter.

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Laughably here everybody thinks England are going on too much about the Smith decision referring back to the Atherton incident with Donald as an example and sort of completely missing the point about the referral system. Would love to havbe seen the reaction if the shoe had been on the other foot. Having said that England's batting has been particularly shite in this game and SA will win at a canter.

 

England have been right royally shafted in this game!!

First Cook is given out off a no- ball, then Smith on 15 gets an edge, but is given not out, referred and the umpire can't here the knick. Smith then blatantly lied saying he didn't hit it. Goes on to make 115....Bollocks, Ridiculous!! De Villiers should have been out several times, yet unbelievably isn't given out. Finally Strauss is given out to a no-ball off Parnell.

 

What a bunch of cheats & liars the Saffers are

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England have been right royally shafted in this game!!

First Cook is given out off a no- ball, then Smith on 15 gets an edge, but is given not out, referred and the umpire can't here the knick. Smith then blatantly lied saying he didn't hit it. Goes on to make 115....Bollocks, Ridiculous!! De Villiers should have been out several times, yet unbelievably isn't given out. Finally Strauss is given out to a no-ball off Parnell.

 

What a bunch of cheats & liars the Saffers are

Not defending SA here but those decisions were down to umpires (first line or referral). Darryl Harper is the particularly shite referral judge in question.

Having said all of that Englands decision on winning the toss and then batting like a twenty twenty side has put them behind the eight ball. What the fuck happened to getting yourself in?

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England have been shafted, but it is the officiating that has stunk. I don't blame the SA's. They were a bit naughty pushing the ball tampering thing without actually reporting anything, but I don't blame any batsman for not walking.

Which makes it all the more ironic when they get all uppity about the English press and their questions to Smith about walking. Having said that they should be pointing the finger at the officials. Game will be over barring weather interruptions by tomorrow.

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Guess the umpires have stuck money on the outcome.

 

Can't see us saving it now. But if anybody had offered a draw on tour to S:A before it started i would have taken it. Some positives to take away from the series. I honestly think we'll be better equipped to take on the Aussies in their own back yard this time.

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