New Foo Fighters album

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Who me or Paddy?

 

I hate Paddy because I am living in fear of the shotgun. I am twitching my curtains every 5 seconds looking for a dark figure in a balaclava and a 12 bore shotgun .I don't even think he needed my address to hunt me down. I reckon he has that sense of smell only a murderer would have.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

Who me or Paddy?

 

I hate Paddy because I am living in fear of the shotgun. I am twitching my curtains every 5 seconds looking for a dark figure in a balaclava and a 12 bore shotgun .I don't even think he needed my address to hunt me down. I reckon he has that sense of smell only a murderer would have.

 

I'm in your garden moving with the stealth of a tracking Wolf....I smell your fear.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

I'm in your garden moving with the stealth of a tracking Wolf....I smell your fear.

 

The Wolf does not fill me with fear. Now if you where a Meerkat, then I would be quivering with fear. They a sneaky little fuckers. Meerkat Manor has convinced me of this.

[The-Sir]

And its debatable as to whether they were slightly above average.

 

Wrong.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

Wrong.

 

You are.

[hamstrung]

Its 2 against 1

[The-Sir]

It doesn't matter, you're both wrong.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

It doesn't matter, you're both wrong.

 

They're shit. You are.

[hamstrung]

I concur

[The-Sir]

Each to their own and that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But you're still both dead wrong.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

I've forgotten what it is that we are arguing about.

[hamstrung]

An slightly above average heavy metal band is twice as popular as them

 

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=alice+in+chains&word2=sepultura

 

gotta be proof enough

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

An slightly above average heavy metal band is twice as popular as them

 

http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=alice+in+chains&word2=sepultura

 

gotta be proof enough

 

Thats right...Alice in Chains are shit, we were right Norkmeister.

[Dirk]

It's actually 2 against 2, I agree with The Sir. Dirt is an excellent album, AiC were a grunge band not a metal band.

[Guest PaddyBerger15]

It's actually 2 against 2, I agree with The Sir. Dirt is an excellent album, AiC were a grunge band not a metal band.

 

Indeed they were a grunge band, or certainly fell under that 'label'. Better than Nirvana? Pull the other one and I'll fall on my arse.

[hamstrung]

Dirt's not a bad album, but they were basically a pretty straightforward metal band who just happened to get popular at the same time as the grunge thing came out.

 

If grunge is anything (and its a bollocks term really) its about the punk rock edge of bands like Nirvana and Mudhoney, I think.

[Dirk]

Indeed they were a grunge band, or certainly fell under that 'label'. Better than Nirvana? Pull the other one and I'll fall on my arse.

 

I don't think they were better than Nirvana, I do think they were an excellent band, though.

[The-Sir]

Indeed they were a grunge band, or certainly fell under that 'label'. Better than Nirvana? Pull the other one and I'll fall on my arse.

 

I didn't say that, in fact I stated that they weren't. The argument was that they were very, very good songwriters - probably better than anyone else at hat time with the exception of Nirvana.

[Dirk]

Dirt's not a bad album, but they were basically a pretty straightforward metal band who just happened to get popular at the same time as the grunge thing came out.

 

If grunge is anything (and its a bollocks term really) its about the punk rock edge of bands like Nirvana and Mudhoney, I think.

 

AiC formed at the same time as Nirvana, in the same city.

[hamstrung]

I didn't say that, in fact I stated that they weren't. The argument was that they were very, very good songwriters - probably better than anyone else at hat time with the exception of Nirvana.

 

I'd put them, as songwriters, behind

 

Soundgarden

Pearl Jam

Mudhoney

Dinosaur Jr

Nirvana

 

i.e pretty much every band that would be under the "grunge" label, and get a level of success.

[hamstrung]

AiC formed at the same time as Nirvana, in the same city.

 

I am aware of that - I think they may even pre-date them a little. Not sure what the point is?

 

If grunge is about location and timing, then they are grunge.

 

If its a sound, then that depends on the definition

[The-Sir]

Dirt's not a bad album, but they were basically a pretty straightforward metal band who just happened to get popular at the same time as the grunge thing came out.

 

If grunge is anything (and its a bollocks term really) its about the punk rock edge of bands like Nirvana and Mudhoney, I think.

 

Sure, they were largely influenced by metal, but you can't say they are a metal band because of it. The grunge genre is a very loosely used term, if you think of some of the bands labeled grunge you get wildly different styles of music.

 

In the past bands (from the Melvins to the Pixies) were categorized under grunge, and I don't think either of them are. The thing with Alice In Chains is that they're much heavier than most grunge bands and thus get labeled a "shit metal" band.

[Dirk]

I am aware of that. Not sure what the point is?

 

If grunge is about location and timing, then they are grunge.

 

If its a sound, then that depends on the definition

 

Perhaps it was my interpretation of what you had written previously. To say they got lucky on the back of the genesis of grunge is unfair because it totally negates their input and influence on the whole grunge scene. Hence my reply.

[The-Sir]

Sure, they were largely influenced by metal, but you can't say they are a metal band because of it. The grunge genre is a very loosely used term, if you think of some of the bands labeled grunge you get wildly different styles of music.

 

In the past bands (from the Melvins to the Pixies) were categorized under grunge, and I don't think either of them are. The thing with Alice In Chains is that they're much heavier than most grunge bands and thus get labeled a "shit metal" band.

 

That was said tongue in cheek when compared to the Melvins, early Meat Puppets, Jesus Lizard but you get the idea.

[hamstrung]

Sure, they were largely influenced by metal, but you can't say they are a metal band because of it. The grunge genre is a very loosely used term, if you think of some of the bands labeled grunge you get wildly different styles of music.

 

In the past bands (from the Melvins to the Pixies) were categorized under grunge, and I don't think either of them are. The thing with Alice In Chains is that they're much heavier than most grunge bands and thus get labeled a "shit metal" band.

 

Ok - maybe its just a categorisation then. They've more in common with black album era metallica than they have with the majority of "grunge" bands of a similar status, barring maybe Soundgarden. Also basically a metal band, but a better one IMO. I suppose you've got 3 different types of music than come under the label - the punky stuff, the metal stuff and the straight hard rock stuff. I prefer the punky stuff, generally.

 

Perhaps it was my interpretation of what you had written previously. To say they got lucky on the back of the genesis of grunge is unfair because it totally negates their input and influence on the whole grunge scene. Hence my reply.

 

I am pretty sure I have had this argument before, but a lot of bands benefited from that scene. I am sure they would have been successful anyway because they did what they did pretty well, but they were exposed to a bigger audience than the average heavy metal band would be, because of grunge.