Russia v Ukraine

[Red Phoenix]

10 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Hunter Biden seen on the wing according to Red Phoenix.

 

Some...thing....on the wing.

 

 

 

I repped after checking the pic and seeing that it was from The Twilight Zone. Might have seen that when I was a kid but can't remember properly.

[Kevin D]

[Gnasher]

26 minutes ago, Captain Willard said:

We need to see a picture. 

 

Didn't he start in the food industry? 

 

 

 

 

[Section_31]

Maybe Putin wasn't behind it? Maybe one of the others vying for power?

 

Putin scurries off stage moments after Wagner boss' death as fears of mutiny grow (msn.com)

[Pete]

7 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Maybe Putin wasn't behind it? Maybe one of the others vying for power?

 

Putin scurries off stage moments after Wagner boss' death as fears of mutiny grow (msn.com)

This war seems to be going really well for Vlad.  Wonder when he'll 'fall out of a window'?  Bet he's avoiding the tea. 

[Bruce Spanner]

12 hours ago, Fugitive said:

Gnasher is defo going to blame the Ukrainians.

He’s busy compiling case notes* on why Letby is innocent.
 

*random goons and ghouls tweets.

[halewood pete]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

I repped after checking the pic and seeing that it was from The Twilight Zone. Might have seen that when I was a kid but can't remember properly.

Yeah,it was William shatner, saw a gremlin pulling at the wing and no one believed him,and when the plane landed ,the wing was damaged

[halewood pete]

Just came across a pic from a few years ago when a Russian warship visited.met these in Castle st and had a nice chat.

[Mudface]

41 minutes ago, halewood pete said:

Yeah,it was William shatner, saw a gremlin pulling at the wing and no one believed him,and when the plane landed ,the wing was damaged

 

That was the original TV episode. In the film, it's John Lithgow. That was probably the best segment of the film, it was a bit disappointing overall, especially the Spielberg bit. It's probably mainly notable for the horrific death of Vic Morrow and two children during filming a helicopter scene- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_Zone_accident

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twilight_Zone:_The_Movie

[TheSire]

20 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Hunter Biden seen on the wing according to Red Phoenix.

 

Some...thing....on the wing.

 

 

Fantastic!

[littletedwest]

Putin has passed on his condolences which is one in the eye for those people who had the ridiculous notion he had anything to do with it 

[Gnasher]

15 hours ago, polymerpunkah said:

Did I mention that the new manager at my local Cinnabon is the spitting image of Prighozin?

 

 

 

"Oh mate I gave you a tenner for a flat white, you've only gave me change out of a fiver.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[littletedwest]

[polymerpunkah]

You'd have to have a death wish get on an airplane with him.

 

I wouldn't have followed him onto an escalator.

 

 

[Anubis]

Can't help but feel there is a real life series of Jack Ryan here somewhere.

[Section_31]

This is what would happen if you let Everton cabbies run a country.

[halewood pete]

[Gnasher]

Ames (in exile). The BBC,  Matt Seddon (Financial Times) all singing from the same hymn sheet. All seeing and talking sense.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66581217?s=09

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[halewood pete]

[TheHowieLama]

Anticipating the Ukrainian counteroffensive that ultimately kicked off on June 4, Russian forces under the supervision of Army Gen. Sergey Surovikin this spring and early summer scrambled to complete three main defensive lines across southern Ukraine.

 

Military engineers and civilian contractors sprinkled concrete tank obstacles, dug trenches and—perhaps most importantly—laid hundreds of thousands of mines. The result, the Surovikin Line, is one of the most daunting military fortifications in the world.

The minefields north of the line are the main reason the Ukrainian counteroffensive corps has advanced just a few miles along its most important axes in southern and eastern Ukraine. But that slow rate of advance soon could change: on or right before Wednesday, the Ukrainian air-assault forces’ 82nd Brigade crossed the first of the three lines, just outside of Verbove in Zaporizhzhia Oblast.

 

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/08/30/ukrainian-troops-have-crossed-the-first-of-the-russians-three-main-trenchlines/?sh=5f5ae098d268

 

[Section_31]

It's mad that the Russians are now fighting a defensive war in the scraps of turf they've managed to take over. They're a second world army at best it would seem, if one thing has come out of this it's that the countries around Russia shouldn't fear it save for the mindless destruction it can and will rain down on civilians, which is further motivation to resist. 

[Pidge]

No, we did not back Gaddafi's coup.

[SasaS]

The point of the "Surovikin line" is to be able to hold it with fewer troops and lower quality formations, exhaust Ukrainians while the best units prepare to counter the exhausted UAF later on or go on an offensive of their own somewhere else, like they did in the Kupyansk-Kremina front.  That is why UAF should ignore Western expectations and continue to clear Russian positions one tree line at a time. They clearly don't have the sufficient firepower for anything else, nor are likely to have it in the near future.

 

 

Russian willingness to continue dying in great numbers for Ukrainian villages in the south is really baffling though. In Donbas they at least have considerable support among to remaining population, in the south they don't even have that, it's apparently full of Ukrainian zhduni.  

[Section_31]

Russia's general military shitness is the biggest argument for the production capabilities of communism I've ever seen. About a year after the nazis pulled their pants down they were churning out some of the best tanks in the world by the thousands.

 

The present mob are resorting to Chechen savages and howitzers built when Kim Wilde was fit.

[JagSquared]

I think that was a case of they had to or die against the Nazis, it was a literally fight for survival their troops were incredibly motivated. 

 

I’m no expert but as a novice looking at it and Fast forward to now and It’s clear that endemic corruption that has fucked the life out of the Russian military. They’ve certainly claimed to have spent enough but seem so far behind military wise.
 

They thought numbers would dissuade other nations and to a point it did as others would look at the raw statistics and see thousands of tanks, vehicles, planes and artillery backed up by hundreds of thousands of “troops” and have second thoughts about pissing off the Russians and give into their demands.

 

But through a combination of terrible management, military leadership and corruption they are being shown to be horrendously outdated in equipment and tactics in this war. Modern weapons are making mincemeat of their military and it’s beyond embarrassing for them. The only thing they have going for them now military wise is nukes but based on the above I wonder how many are actually operational. The answer is probably just enough. I just don’t understand what it will take for the people of russia to say fuck this and topple Putin. He still has high approval ratings and their economy has managed to survive despite the sanctions.
 

the issue the Ukrainians will have that when they eventually break through the cost of this war will have been so high that as a nation they may never recover. It’ll take decades and billions to clear the land mines and rebuild cities and what’s it all been for? Fuck all.