Russia v Ukraine

[TheSire]

29 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Biden gives Ukraine permission to strike Russia. 
 

The weird hypocrisy and absolute lunacy ….. fucking hell 

 

This isn’t good. 

What hypocrisy? Genuine question, couldn't sleep so my brain isn't warned up yet.

[Bjornebye]

12 minutes ago, TheSire said:

What hypocrisy? Genuine question, couldn't sleep so my brain isn't warned up yet.

Russia are invading The Ukraine. “Bomb em” 

 

Israel are invading Palestine “erm calm down a bit?” 

[SasaS]

Bump.

 

The mother of all peace conferences begins today.

[Section_31]

1 hour ago, SasaS said:

Bump.

 

The mother of all peace conferences begins today.

 

Russians aren't there though, could be a flaw in that plan.

 

I'm having an orgy later with Beyonce and Frankie from the Saturdays, but they're not coming either.

[TheHowieLama]

23 hours ago, Section_31 said:

 

Russians aren't there though, could be a flaw in that plan.

 

I'm having an orgy later with Beyonce and Frankie from the Saturdays, but they're not coming either.

 

You will be though I presume.

 

 $1.5 billion aid package for Ukraine, focused primarily on the war-torn country's energy sector and humanitarian assistance.

 

"This funding will repair energy infrastructure damaged in the war, expand power generation, encourage private sector investment, and protect energy infrastructure," the White House said in a statement Saturday. "These efforts will help Ukraine respond to Russia’s latest attacks on Ukraine energy infrastructure by supporting repair and recovery, improving Ukraine’s resilience to energy supply disruptions, and laying the groundwork to repair and expand Ukraine’s energy system."

[Gnasher]

At the risk of upsetting a swarm of bees, these tighter conscription laws seem to be going down well.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz994d6vqe5o

 

 

 

[TheSire]

Vinegar strokes?

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, TheSire said:

Vinegar strokes?

 

 Any comment on the BBC article or you just going to come the daft cunt?

[SasaS]

Putin in North Korea. He is really pushing it.

 

At one point Russian people will have to say, wait... what? We are China's bitch and North Korea's main strategic ally now? Whilst spending $300 million a day on trying to destroy Ukraine, where 100,000 our soldiered have already died and which will be financing it's military from interest on our own money? 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

By no means a Russian fan boy but if NATO are allowed to expand and form new alliances then why can’t Russia formalise an already informal alliance with North Korea? 
 

Both fairly awful countries, like. But, this is something they’re entitled to do and it’s a bit hypocritical to say it makes the world a less safer place when not batting an eyelid about the US and NATO trying to build alliances with countries right on Russia’s borders and in nearby territory. 
 

This new alliance seems to be nothing more than a bit of sabre rattling directed at NATO. 

[SasaS]

25 minutes ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

By no means a Russian fan boy but if NATO are allowed to expand and form new alliances then why can’t Russia formalise an already informal alliance with North Korea? 
 

Both fairly awful countries, like. But, this is something they’re entitled to do and it’s a bit hypocritical to say it makes the world a less safer place when not batting an eyelid about the US and NATO trying to build alliances with countries right on Russia’s borders and in nearby territory. 
 

This new alliance seems to be nothing more than a bit of sabre rattling directed at NATO. 

 

I'd say it is not the question of being allowed or not allowed, it is the question who your allies are and why and how much you are in bed with them. 

[SasaS]

Get in.

 

The US government is set to halt all open orders for Patriot air defence systems and interceptor missiles until Ukraine has enough to defend itself from Russia’s air attacks.

 

https://www.ft.com/content/89fe9d6b-3a0f-42a5-af50-cff7f457a126?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR32JqheCRp2kDrIcRi6URavBuZH8k6YAJDlpPe9gF_q899B9xiKF06LTco_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw

[SasaS]

 

If pay-walled

"US government is set to halt all open orders for Patriot air defence systems and interceptor missiles until Ukraine has enough to defend itself from Russia’s air attacks. Three people with knowledge of the decision said the move would be announced on Thursday, after President Joe Biden said last week in Italy that he had secured commitments for the delivery of additional air defence systems to Ukraine. These would include Patriot missile batteries for which Kyiv has been clamouring after Russia escalated missile and drone attacks on its power plants. Biden said five countries had agreed to send Patriot and other air defence systems to Ukraine, and that other countries expecting the delivery of the US systems would have to wait because “everything we have is going to go to Ukraine until their needs are met”.

 Standing beside Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after the two signed a 10-year defence pact on the sidelines of the G7 summit in Puglia, Biden added that Kyiv would begin receiving more systems “relatively quickly”.

The US announcement on Thursday will codify Biden’s commitment to Kyiv and ensure that Ukraine gets the Patriot systems it needs to protect its cities and critical infrastructure, two of the people with knowledge of the decision told the Financial Times. Poland, Romania and Germany are among the European nations with open orders for Patriot systems still to be delivered. Spain also has an open order for Patriot launchers, while a coalition of Nato states in January placed an order for 1,000 Patriot missiles. Spain, Greece and Romania have Patriots in their arsenals, but have so far declined to authorise transfers of launch systems to Ukraine. Poland has said its Patriots are protecting the infrastructure used to ship western weaponry across its border into Ukraine, and thus are already deployed to help protect the war-torn country. In addition, Italy said this month it would send Kyiv a second SAMP/T air defence system, a European-made alternative to the Patriot. US and Ukrainian officials did not immediately respond to requests for comment. The US-made Patriot systems are Washington’s most advanced air defence weapons. They consist of a radar system and mobile launchers that can fire interceptor missiles at incoming projectiles or aircraft. Zelenskyy has called them “the most effective air defence system in the world today” and said they were capable of shooting down all Russian missiles, including ballistic ones. Ukraine at present has at least four Patriot systems, provided by the US and Germany.

Since Zelenskyy made a plea for additional deliveries this spring, Germany has said it would send an additional battery, and the Netherlands announced an initiative to send another based on components supplied by multiple countries. Biden then approved the deployment of another Patriot air defence system to Ukraine last week. The Patriot systems and their interceptor missiles have helped protect key government buildings and critical infrastructure in Kyiv and other cities across the country. In at least one instance, a Patriot missile downed a Russian A-50 airborne early warning and control aircraft over the Sea of Azov in January, according to two Ukrainian officials with knowledge of the operation and Colonel Rosanna Clemente, assistant chief of staff at the US 10th Army Air and Missile Defense Command, speaking on a panel this month. Clemente said Kyiv had “probably about a battalion of Patriots operating in Ukraine right now being used to protect static sites and critical national infrastructure”.

Russia has knocked out or captured more than half of Ukraine’s power generation, causing the worst rolling blackouts since its full-scale invasion in 2022. Moscow’s latest wave of missile and drone attacks has targeted Ukraine’s critical infrastructure, including thermal and hydroelectric power plants, which are much harder and more expensive to fix, rebuild or replace. “Addressing the ammunition shortfalls and coverage gaps in Ukraine’s air defence is essential for the country to defend critical infrastructure, and no less important than stabilising the front line,” said Michael Kofman, a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “Russian strikes have significantly damaged Ukraine’s non-nuclear power generation capacity, and Russian drones are increasingly able to target Ukrainian positions behind the front lines because of a lack of air defence coverage.”

Speaking in Berlin on June 11, Zelenskyy said that “Ukraine is now suffering from the most destructive form of Russia’s vision of energy as a weapon”. Russian and drone attacks had destroyed more than 9 gigawatts of Ukraine’s power generation capacity in recent months, said Zelenskyy, adding that peak energy consumption in Ukraine last winter was 18GW. “So, half of it does not exist any more.” Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said early this month that the consequences of Russian attacks on Ukraine’s energy sector were “long-term” and that saving power “will be part of our daily life in the years to come”. As Russia’s air attacks continued this week, Serhiy Kovalenko, chief executive of electricity provider Yasno, warned Ukrainians that they faced a realistic possibility of having electricity for just six to seven hours per day next winter. "

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Unison has voted to support Ukrainian trade unions and the Ukraine Solidarity Campaign.

 

Which is nice.

[SasaS]

And now, the backtracking, it's not all systems for Ukraine, only all Patriot interceptor missiles.

[TheSire]

Sounded too good to be true. Cunts.

[Anubis]

The Ruskies have raided the NHS. maybe they can propose a better way to get waiting lists down.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/article/2024/jun/21/records-on-300m-patient-interactions-with-nhs-stolen-in-russian-hack

[SasaS]

Mediazona has 2,677 new Russian KIA in Ukraine for the past four weeks, in line with previous regular updates for two weeks. The total is now 56,858.
 

https://zona.media/casualties

 

Ukraine obituaries count was at 46,450 last update on Monday,

 

https://ualosses.org/en/soldiers/

[Anubis]

Blimey! From The Grauniad live blog.

 

 

 

 

Quote

 

13.02 BST

Zelenskiy orders purge of state guard after alleged assassination plots

Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelenskiy, told the new chief of Ukraine’s state guard service to clear its ranks of people discrediting it after two of its officers were accused of plotting to assassinate senior officials.

 

The state Security Service (SBU) said last month that it had caught two guard service colonels accused of cooperating with Russia to plot the assassination of Zelenskiy and other officials, including military intelligence chief Kyrylo Budanov. The guard service provides security for various governement officials.

 

Zelenskiy’s murder was intended as a “gift” for Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, who was inaugurated at the Kremlin last month for a fifth time, the SBU said.

 

Introducing Col Oleksiy Morozov to the staff on Monday, Zelenskiy said his main objective was to ensure that only those who see their future tied with Ukraine join the agency.

 

“And, of course, the agency must be cleared of anyone who chooses not Ukraine for themselves or discredits the state guard service,” he wrote on Telegram.

 

Zelenskiy dismissed Morozov’s predecessor Serhiy Rud in May, two days after the SBU detained agency employees who it said worked for Russia’s Federal Security Service and leaked classified information.

 

 

[Gnasher]

Euros.

 

 

[TheSire]

17 hours ago, Anubis said:

Blimey! From The Grauniad live blog.

 

 

 

 

 

Quite a snide headline, the guardian is a dog shit paper these days though tbf.

[Curly]

On 21/06/2024 at 15:24, SasaS said:

Mediazona has 2,677 new Russian KIA in Ukraine for the past four weeks, in line with previous regular updates for two weeks. The total is now 56,858.
 

https://zona.media/casualties

 

Ukraine obituaries count was at 46,450 last update on Monday,

 

https://ualosses.org/en/soldiers/

Fucking miserable. Over 100,000 dead and for what? Some fucking ego-fuelled, micro-dicked cunt’s desire to dominate. Fuck war

[TheSire]

7 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Euros.

 

 

What could possibly go wrong? 

[TheSire]

81% of Ukrainians are against holding elections during the war, but look at that flag!

[AngryOfTuebrook]

8 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Euros.

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, TheSire said:

81% of Ukrainians are against holding elections during the war, but look at that flag!

Elections under Russian occupation would be about as credible as Russian elections.

 

Trade unionists and Socialists in Russia are clear that their priorities are 

1. Defeat the Russians and boot the occupying army out 

2. Restore Ukrainian democracy 

3. Vote Zelensky's neo-liberals out and get a progressive government.

 

Nothing happens without Point 1.