Coronavirus could prevent Liverpool from winning the Premier League title

[Brownie]

14 hours ago, No2 said:

https://mobile.twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1249951316824281093

 

Swiss Ramble done a great thread on the finances, some of the reliance of TV money is scary. There are a handful of clubs that generate less than 8% of turnover from gate receipts. Every team below the top 6 will lose 25% of overall revenue, Leicester will lose 30% of theirs. 

 

What he didn't analyse was the difference between these losses from and actually being relegated. That would have made for interesting reading.

Thanks mate, that confirms the situation really about how the broadcasting money is far more important than match day revenue.

[Brownie]

1 hour ago, LFC 6 Times said:

What time are PL meeting Today? Might provide more clarity on situation.

They met this morning. News is starting to filter out now. Apparently they remain committed to completing the season.

[TheHowieLama]

5 minutes ago, Brownie said:

Thanks mate, that confirms the situation really about how the broadcasting money is far more important than match day revenue.

After this debacle I would be surprised if that bubble doesn't get slightly deflated

[devilsadvocate]

1 hour ago, LFC 6 Times said:

What time are PL meeting Today? Might provide more clarity on situation.

Sky sports article says 30th June cut off wasn't even mentioned. Seen as 9 clubs we're determined to set a cut off date seems strange it wasn't brought up.

 

Think we all need to stop worrying about bullshit newspaper articles. 

[Bjornebye]

20 minutes ago, Brownie said:

They met this morning. News is starting to filter out now. Apparently they remain committed to completing the season.

RS bastards. 

[dockers_strike]

The telegraph is reporting PL clubs have been given a deadline for starting the 2020 / 21 season as the 1st week in September. It's behind a paywall so Ive no idea who has set the deadline or 'told' the clubs this isnt optional.

 

Obviously putting a deadline on next season's start means there's a deadline by which the current one must be restarted and completed. Not good.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/17/premier-league-clubs-told-2020-21-season-must-start-first-week/

 

Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.

The deadline puts huge pressure on the Premier League to eventually make a decision over the completion of this season and means, effectively, that they cannot resume playing any later than July.

The Premier League still remains hopeful that the season can start again on the week beginning June 8, although that is dependent on Government advice and lifting the current coronavirus restrictions. That was the over-riding message from the latest video-conference meeting involving the 20 clubs, on Friday morning.

The clubs discussed the issue of how players will return to training, with one plan being for them to initially work in pairs for an hour at the training ground having got changed in their cars to minimise the contact. Clubs are expected to be told they will have three weeks from when the Government gives the go-ahead for them to be allowed to train to playing matches which will be behind...

[suzy]

I also saw on Sky all 20 clubs wanted it played out.

[Bjornebye]

10 minutes ago, suzy said:

I also saw on Sky all 20 clubs wanted it played out.

Where did you see this????? 

[suzy]

19 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Where did you see this????? 

Was on Sky sports news.

[TheHowieLama]

50 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

having got changed in their cars

Proper Sunday league stuff this -- get a couple sleeping in the parking lot the night before to really make it authentic.

[Ronnie Whelan]

52 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

The telegraph is reporting PL clubs have been given a deadline for starting the 2020 / 21 season as the 1st week in September. It's behind a paywall so Ive no idea who has set the deadline or 'told' the clubs this isnt optional.

 

Obviously putting a deadline on next season's start means there's a deadline by which the current one must be restarted and completed. Not good.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/17/premier-league-clubs-told-2020-21-season-must-start-first-week/

 

Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.

The deadline puts huge pressure on the Premier League to eventually make a decision over the completion of this season and means, effectively, that they cannot resume playing any later than July.

The Premier League still remains hopeful that the season can start again on the week beginning June 8, although that is dependent on Government advice and lifting the current coronavirus restrictions. That was the over-riding message from the latest video-conference meeting involving the 20 clubs, on Friday morning.

The clubs discussed the issue of how players will return to training, with one plan being for them to initially work in pairs for an hour at the training ground having got changed in their cars to minimise the contact. Clubs are expected to be told they will have three weeks from when the Government gives the go-ahead for them to be allowed to train to playing matches which will be behind...

They will play out this season and if it means multiple weeks where they are playing three games per week next season that will happen imo. Next season could start in September/October, though they may just have a short break after the completion of this one with a view to going straight in to next season.

[SasaS]

54 minutes ago, dockers_strike said:

The telegraph is reporting PL clubs have been given a deadline for starting the 2020 / 21 season as the 1st week in September. It's behind a paywall so Ive no idea who has set the deadline or 'told' the clubs this isnt optional.

 

Obviously putting a deadline on next season's start means there's a deadline by which the current one must be restarted and completed. Not good.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/17/premier-league-clubs-told-2020-21-season-must-start-first-week/

 

Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.

The deadline puts huge pressure on the Premier League to eventually make a decision over the completion of this season and means, effectively, that they cannot resume playing any later than July.

The Premier League still remains hopeful that the season can start again on the week beginning June 8, although that is dependent on Government advice and lifting the current coronavirus restrictions. That was the over-riding message from the latest video-conference meeting involving the 20 clubs, on Friday morning.

The clubs discussed the issue of how players will return to training, with one plan being for them to initially work in pairs for an hour at the training ground having got changed in their cars to minimise the contact. Clubs are expected to be told they will have three weeks from when the Government gives the go-ahead for them to be allowed to train to playing matches which will be behind...

If the richest league in the world is not given the go ahead for the players to even start practicing in four weeks time, the resumption of football will be the last of people's worries.

[Bjornebye]

I don't get how the easiest thing to do isn't just halt football until its safe to play again then just pick up where they left off. Obviously there will be legal issues but surely far less than voiding it. 

 

I'd say the same even if we were 10th. Its immoral to just void a fucking season almost 3 quarters of the way through. 

[TheHowieLama]

2 hours ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

They will play out this season and if it means multiple weeks where they are playing three games per week next season that will happen imo. Next season could start in September/October, though they may just have a short break after the completion of this one with a view to going straight in to next season.

They have floated the date of June 13 for a re-start - UEFA wants August for CL finish.

 

Which realistically means teams will need to start training a month (mid May) from now for a re-start.

I think it will be difficult to get a comprehensive testing program that would pass snuff for all involved in the next 3 or 4 weeks to allow that.

[dockers_strike]

2 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't get how the easiest thing to do isn't just halt football until its safe to play again then just pick up where they left off. Obviously there will be legal issues but surely far less than voiding it. 

 

I'd say the same even if we were 10th. Its immoral to just void a fucking season almost 3 quarters of the way through. 

There's now clearly pressure from somewhere with all this bollocks because as you say, the simplest thing is to halt until it's safe. The trouble is, we dont know where this pressure is coming from.

 

It doesnt seem to be coming from FIFA \ UEFA because they all say the same, re start it when safe even if it overlaps with 'next' season. Unless they're saying something different in private which is always possible.

 

Is it the tv companies? Seems unlikely because they want their money back if the current season doesnt finish or, more games next season as a trade off to making the clubs refund them. And again, if it's not safe to play July \ August, it isnt going to be safe in September and that ignores the players will need to be in some form of pre season in August.

 

So it can only be some clubs in the PL who want to protect their arse. I hope they go fucking bankrupt if it is.

 

[3 Stacks]

3 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

I don't get how the easiest thing to do isn't just halt football until its safe to play again then just pick up where they left off. Obviously there will be legal issues but surely far less than voiding it. 

 

I'd say the same even if we were 10th. Its immoral to just void a fucking season almost 3 quarters of the way through. 

Because no one knows when "until it's safe" is. Or what it looks like. Or if the players will be fit. Or what to do when someone at a club tests positive, because it will happen. 

 

They should just end the seasons and finalize the results, lost revenues be damned. And then whenever you can go back to playing football, you can start a new season.

 

It will be a shambles either way but ending the season is the least complicated and safest thing to do. 

[TheHowieLama]

14 minutes ago, 3 Stacks said:

 

It will be a shambles either way but ending the season is the least complicated and safest thing to do. 

Unfortunately that is correct.

 

In any case this season will have an asterisk. But I have come to realize this season will be remembered forever and one of the greatest teams in the history of the league will be remembered as champions.

[Stickman]

57 minutes ago, TheHowieLama said:

Unfortunately that is correct.

 

In any case this season will have an asterisk. But I have come to realize this season will be remembered forever and one of the greatest teams in the history of the league will be remembered as champions.

  
*19..........I can live with that 

[devilsadvocate]

14 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

The telegraph is reporting PL clubs have been given a deadline for starting the 2020 / 21 season as the 1st week in September. It's behind a paywall so Ive no idea who has set the deadline or 'told' the clubs this isnt optional.

 

Obviously putting a deadline on next season's start means there's a deadline by which the current one must be restarted and completed. Not good.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/17/premier-league-clubs-told-2020-21-season-must-start-first-week/

 

Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.

The deadline puts huge pressure on the Premier League to eventually make a decision over the completion of this season and means, effectively, that they cannot resume playing any later than July.

The Premier League still remains hopeful that the season can start again on the week beginning June 8, although that is dependent on Government advice and lifting the current coronavirus restrictions. That was the over-riding message from the latest video-conference meeting involving the 20 clubs, on Friday morning.

The clubs discussed the issue of how players will return to training, with one plan being for them to initially work in pairs for an hour at the training ground having got changed in their cars to minimise the contact. Clubs are expected to be told they will have three weeks from when the Government gives the go-ahead for them to be allowed to train to playing matches which will be behind...

Is there any point starting a new season if fans can't attend? 
 

I see the point of games behind closed doors to get this campaign completed, means to an end and all that but let's say no vaccine for 18 months are we really gonna play a full season behind closed doors? 

 

Best solution would be to finish this season as soon as possible behind closed doors and then put it on hold until a new season can start with fans in attendance. 
 

 

 

 

[devilsadvocate]

14 hours ago, dockers_strike said:

The telegraph is reporting PL clubs have been given a deadline for starting the 2020 / 21 season as the 1st week in September. It's behind a paywall so Ive no idea who has set the deadline or 'told' the clubs this isnt optional.

 

Obviously putting a deadline on next season's start means there's a deadline by which the current one must be restarted and completed. Not good.

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/04/17/premier-league-clubs-told-2020-21-season-must-start-first-week/

 

Premier League clubs have been told that the 2020-21 season must start by the first week of September at the latest.

The deadline puts huge pressure on the Premier League to eventually make a decision over the completion of this season and means, effectively, that they cannot resume playing any later than July.

The Premier League still remains hopeful that the season can start again on the week beginning June 8, although that is dependent on Government advice and lifting the current coronavirus restrictions. That was the over-riding message from the latest video-conference meeting involving the 20 clubs, on Friday morning.

The clubs discussed the issue of how players will return to training, with one plan being for them to initially work in pairs for an hour at the training ground having got changed in their cars to minimise the contact. Clubs are expected to be told they will have three weeks from when the Government gives the go-ahead for them to be allowed to train to playing matches which will be behind...

As the article doesn't actually state who is telling the clubs that the new season must start by 1st week in September then my guess is that it's another made up story to create headlines. 
 

Same as the 9 clubs will demand season finishes by June 30th bollocks. 

[Ronnie Whelan]

1 hour ago, devilsadvocate said:

Is there any point starting a new season if fans can't attend? 
 

I see the point of games behind closed doors to get this campaign completed, means to an end and all that but let's say no vaccine for 18 months are we really gonna play a full season behind closed doors? 

 

Best solution would be to finish this season as soon as possible behind closed doors and then put it on hold until a new season can start with fans in attendance. 
 

 

 

 

Yeah agree with that. They should concentrate on finishing this season and make a creative plan for next year.

[Ronnie Whelan]

13 hours ago, TheHowieLama said:

They have floated the date of June 13 for a re-start - UEFA wants August for CL finish.

 

Which realistically means teams will need to start training a month (mid May) from now for a re-start.

I think it will be difficult to get a comprehensive testing program that would pass snuff for all involved in the next 3 or 4 weeks to allow that.

Think all the main parties are flexible though with their finishing date. I'm sure Uefa would move the cl and el finishing dates to September or even October and think this gives extra time for domestic leagues to be wrapped up. 

 

It might be the new season starts in November/December or even well in to next year and they blitz the games with a lot of weeks where there are three games per week, a bit like the Christmas schedule. They get rid of the league cup and revert european competition to old school knockout. Think it would really impact on clubs with smaller squads, which is unfair on them. Maybe they halve the league in two next season and do a knockout with top four in each section going into a quarter final etc.

 

The main focus should be this season and if they have to get creative for next season, fair enough.

[dockers_strike]

2 hours ago, devilsadvocate said:

As the article doesn't actually state who is telling the clubs that the new season must start by 1st week in September then my guess is that it's another made up story to create headlines. 
 

Same as the 9 clubs will demand season finishes by June 30th bollocks. 

Like I said, I couldnt read the whole article due to the paywall so I to wondered just who says the next season should start no later than the first week in September. I just dont get why there's this almost indecent haste to end the current one and start the next.

 

To me, it's clear and obvious the current one should be completed, whenever that is and if necessary, the next season not started of cancelled altogether if this pandemic prevails longer.

 

Just imagine this scenario, current season is ended without any English leagues playing any more games. So, some clubs will benefit from their current position while others will lose out. Some people say that's ok.

 

But then the next season starts and we get to say 10 games played and the leagues have to be halted again for an indeterminate period. Are the teams who 'lost out' in the previous season's curtailment going to become very litigious because now they have lost out again?

5 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

Think all the main parties are flexible though with their finishing date. I'm sure Uefa would move the cl and el finishing dates to September or even October and think this gives extra time for domestic leagues to be wrapped up. 

 

It might be the new season starts in November/December or even well in to next year and they blitz the games with a lot of weeks where there are three games per week, a bit like the Christmas schedule. They get rid of the league cup and revert european competition to old school knockout. Think it would really impact on clubs with smaller squads, which is unfair on them. Maybe they halve the league in two next season and do a knockout with top four in each section going into a quarter final etc.

 

The main focus should be this season and if they have to get creative for next season, fair enough.

Totally agree.

[Bobby Hundreds]

My opinion hasnt changed I still think it will be voided this is going to drag on and on and eventually I think there will be no appetite to finish it. I think fresh starts will become mantra of the day.  

[TheHowieLama]

52 minutes ago, Ronnie Whelan said:

 

The main focus should be this season and if they have to get creative for next season, fair enough.

That is with your red specs on. It makes no sense to have two seasons affected.