Aintree 2019

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

9 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I hope that horse that fell at the first is okay. It looked horrible.

Deceased. Alas. It was having some sort of seizure on the floor. Horrible. 

[Oh Buoy]

23 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I hope that horse that fell at the first is okay. It looked horrible. Loads got round though. 

 

Fucking hell, is that another? So, that makes it potentially 3 this year?

 

First time I've not supported or entertained the National this year - horrific event both for the horses and for the alcohol-fuelled shite that comes with it.

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/sickening-footage-armed-youths-attacking-16088145

[manwiththestick]

2 minutes ago, Spring said:

 

Fucking hell, is that another? So, that makes it potentially 3 this year?

 

First time I've not supported or entertained the National this year - horrific event both for the horses and for the alcohol-fuelled shite that comes with it.

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/sickening-footage-armed-youths-attacking-16088145

The whole thing should be fucked off. 

[Leyton388]

I wish it would be fucked off. Horrible event and there's no excuse for the horses to be injured or die. 

 

Also it always ends up with some peaky blinders wannabe twats causing murder in town 

[Strontium]

I find it hard to get too upset about the occasional horse dying when the patrons at the course are munching down on hundreds of chickens, cows and pigs every year.

 

Given the choice, I think I'd rather take my chance as a racehorse than a broiler chicken.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The nominal percentage of racehorses that die mean that banning racing/the National would be a heavy handed and unwarranted measure. Plus, one horse died after sustaining an injury running on the flat. That can happen to any horse. In a field. Running wild. Anywhere. 

 

Plus, the fact that people are arsed when a horse dies at Aintree but don't really give that much of a fuck when Sweaty Ken dies in the ten past three at Cartmel makes me think that there's a degree of bandwagon jumping. 

 

Make the race safer, yes. It's safer than the Topham, I'd reckon? That a race that needs looking at before the National. 

 

But, if you do away with the National, surely you'd want to do away with jumps racing altogether? Or, as I've mentioned, is it not worth campaigning for a dead horse at Hexham? And, if you do ban it, what are the suggestions for how to house and deal with the racehorses in stables which will inevitably close if the sport is banned? 

 

Plus, these horses are bred to race. Is it not crueler to prevent horses from ever being born at all, when most of them go on to live a long life and die of natural causes, just because a small percentage of racehorses (less than 0.1% of runners) suffer fatal injuries? 

[VladimirIlyich]

38 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

The nominal percentage of racehorses that die mean that banning racing/the National would be a heavy handed and unwarranted measure. Plus, one horse died after sustaining an injury running on the flat. That can happen to any horse. In a field. Running wild. Anywhere. 

 

Plus, the fact that people are arsed when a horse dies at Aintree but don't really give that much of a fuck when Sweaty Ken dies in the ten past three at Cartmel makes me think that there's a degree of bandwagon jumping. 

 

Make the race safer, yes. It's safer than the Topham, I'd reckon? That a race that needs looking at before the National. 

 

But, if you do away with the National, surely you'd want to do away with jumps racing altogether? Or, as I've mentioned, is it not worth campaigning for a dead horse at Hexham? And, if you do ban it, what are the suggestions for how to house and deal with the racehorses in stables which will inevitably close if the sport is banned? 

 

Plus, these horses are bred to race. Is it not crueler to prevent horses from ever being born at all, when most of them go on to live a long life and die of natural causes, just because a small percentage of racehorses (less than 0.1% of runners) suffer fatal injuries? 

The problems with the National in particular are a) the size of the field,40 is far too many and b) there are too many horses not capable(without the actual pedigree) to jump those fences. As far as I am aware there are no qualifiers to enter the race,or are there?

[General Dryness]

I had a tenner on Sweaty Ken, how did it get on? Hoping for a place at least.

[VladimirIlyich]

My mum had 2.50 each way on the second placed horse. I got 125/1 for it yesterday. Paid 80 quid for a place.

[torahboy]

2 hours ago, Spring said:

 

Fucking hell, is that another? So, that makes it potentially 3 this year?

 

First time I've not supported or entertained the National this year - horrific event both for the horses and for the alcohol-fuelled shite that comes with it.

 

https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/sickening-footage-armed-youths-attacking-16088145

Same number as the Cheltenham meeting. Doesn't seem to garner the same scrutiny and criticism as Aintree.

[Jairzinho]

14 minutes ago, torahboy said:

Same number as the Cheltenham meeting. Doesn't seem to garner the same scrutiny and criticism as Aintree.

It got loads, but the obvious difference is that the National, rather than the Aintree meeting as a whole, is the only race of the year that attracts loads that usually don't bother with horse racing. 

 

I agree with Vlad, the main problem is field sizes. No race should have more than about 15 runners, in my opinion. 

[Gnasher]

On 06/04/2019 at 18:19, Strontium Dog said:

I find it hard to get too upset about the occasional horse dying when the patrons at the course are munching down on hundreds of chickens, cows and pigs every year.

 

Given the choice, I think I'd rather take my chance as a racehorse than a broiler chicken.

It's hard to make a constructive arguement against this post.