Klopp Kopped.

[Jennings]

Klopp needs to revolutionise our recruitment.

 

By this statement, I mean that it needs to radically change. January is a time where we can expect to see whether this is happening. 

 

Signing players like Steve Caulker and Shane Long is not revolutionising recruitment. 

[Biscao]

We're 5 time European champions and getting embarrassed by journeymen on a weekly basis is something we cannot and shouldn't accept.

 

Agree, 

 

WE ARE LIVERPOOL!

[Em City]

You don't win derbies with donkeys, it's going to take Klopp a long time to clear out the shit we've been left with.

 You can say we're five times European champions all you like but that was 11 years ago and whatever practical legacy from that win has now disappeared. Every player from that team is gone and we don't have a single world-class player for the first time in decades. Notts Forest have two European Cups but that doesn't help them beat the likes of Huddersfield every week. Villa have more than Arsenal, yet one is top of the league and the other is rock bottom and heading down.

 

Klopp is the right man for the job, he has the pedigree and experience in turning this kind of thing around and we have to be patient and suffer a lot more embarrassments before it's get better. When Bob Paisley was asked what the secret to his success was, he replied "It's simple, good players." That's coming from the greatest there's ever been so I think you can think you can take that to the bank. We just don't have the players and we certainly don't have anything resembling balance.

 

In short, we and the club have to give Klopp all the time and backing that can be mustered; because if he can't turn this omnishambles around, we'll be watching our Istanbul DVDs with painful nostalgia for a long, long time.

[skend04]

You don't win derbies with donkeys, it's going to take Klopp a long time to clear out the shit we've been left with.

You can say we're five times European champions all you like but that was 11 years ago and whatever practical legacy from that win has now disappeared. Every player from that team is gone and we don't have a single world-class player for the first time in decades. Notts Forest have two European Cups but that doesn't help them beat the likes of Huddersfield every week. Villa have more than Arsenal, yet one is top of the league and the other is rock bottom and heading down.

 

Klopp is the right man for the job, he has the pedigree and experience in turning this kind of thing around and we have to be patient and suffer a lot more embarrassments before it's get better. When Bob Paisley was asked what the secret to his success was, he replied "It's simple, good players." That's coming from the greatest there's ever been so I think you can think you can take that to the bank. We just don't have the players and we certainly don't have anything resembling balance.

 

In short, we and the club have to give Klopp all the time and backing that can be mustered; because if he can't turn this omnishambles around, we'll be watching our Istanbul DVDs with painful nostalgia for a long, long time.

Exactly this. Just because we've spent £300m over the last few seasons we aren't suddenly going to be top of the league. We are midtable because the majority of our players are of midtable quality. It's not rocket science and anyone expecting anything more than effort from this bunch of clowns is slightly deluded.

[Paco]

is klopp being handed the same shit lists rodgers was given?

[Gnasher]

is klopp being handed the same shit lists rodgers was given?

No, worse. The moneyball men probably think as we now have a better manager we can sign even worse players yet still get better results.

[skend04]

We've got 50+ players on our books. Maybe Klopp is seeing what he can and can't work with first and then buying with a plan rather than what's happened previous seasons. Maybe I'm just a deluded idealist.

[Hades]

We've got 50+ players on our books. Maybe Klopp is seeing what he can and can't work with first and then buying with a plan rather than what's happened previous seasons. Maybe I'm just a deluded idealist.

Never ever underestimate the incompetence of Liverpool Football Club, and Fraudulent Sports Gang in particular.

[Duff Man]

Gerrard was injury prone when BR took over, he stopped being world clas after the title challenge under Rafa.Suarez was a potentially world class player who was a poor finisher, BR developed him and there are players here who could develop and reach a similar level.Most of the rest of the squad was average and now most of them are at midtable or relegation sides or are playing in leagues weaker then the championship.

 

Gerrard's three seasons under Rodgers:

 

Season      App/Goals

12/13     -   46/10

13/14     -   39/14

14/15     -   37/13

 

Hardly injury prone (especially the season you're referring to), but even if you want to make the demonstrably false claim that he was, there's still nobody in this current squad capable of playing at a similar level or exerting the same level of influence over games.

 

As for Suarez, are you taking the piss? Even in the season before Rodgers arrived he scored 17 goals in 39 games, and was widely considered one of the best players in the league, if not the world. And whilst he did improve under Rodgers (not sure why this is relevant anyway), there's absolutely no reason to believe he wouldn't have improved at the same rate under another manager.

 

Again, the point is, there are no players in this current squad capable of making the contribution Gerrard and Suarez did in 12/13, and they're what makes the difference when the rest of your squad is full of average Joes.

[Section_31]

The solution to all our problems is to buy good players. 

[VladimirIlyich]

Jerome Sinclair to Watford permanently? Twitter rumour.

[Russ Atmosphere]

The solution to all our problems is to buy good players. 

 

Word, and Klopp could be difference between signing/losing some targets, eg. Mkhitaryan.

[Jennings]

The solution to all our problems is to buy good players. 

 

FUCKING THIS!!!!!!!!!!11!1!one!!shift_1!!!

This should be painted on the walls of the corridors of power at Anfield.

[A_S]

Word, and Klopp could be difference between signing/losing some targets, eg. Mkhitaryan.

 

Yep, at some point in the argument, when push comes to shove, he could refer back to his impressive CV as proof that he knows what the fuck he is doing in order to force his will on whoever from the transfer committee is not in agreement with him. Unfortunately for all involved with Liverpool FC, this was something the previous manager was never able to do, as he didn't have the CV to back him up. Hence the current situation. 

[andyj]

we dont even need world class players just players that have 1 role and 1 position and able to do that  job effectively im convinced that that this whole  muli role thing confuses players 

[G Richards]

I'm confident Klopp will sort this out. He's fighting right now with his hands tied behind his back. He has another man's unbalanced team that is not suited to his style of play. Even at that point he could comfortably get top four with them if they were fit.

 

One of the only times we had two strikers on show - Sturridge and Origi - was the 6-1 against Southampton and we looked devastating. The fella has had no strikers to pick from, or the one he has had, Benteke, has been so lacking that he has preferred to leave him on the bench.

 

Don't get me started on the central defence either. That has been a joke with all the chopping and changing, caused primarily by injuries.

 

I'm confident Klopp is going to sort this out, and going by the volume of deals he did in his first year at Dortmund, it will happen quickly.

 

The temptation is to view this season as a write off, but it never is. I don't think we will finish top four as we are too inconsistent. But there are three cups to play for, and all along the way Klopp will run the rule over these players, so when he does act in the market, it will be in the certain knowledge of what they can and can't do. And clearly some/many of them do not do enough to warrant a future here.

 

It's tough right now as we look a bit of a shambles and it's always hard to lose to Man Utd. But better, much better, is just around the corner.

[Denny Crane]

is klopp being handed the same shit lists rodgers was given?

You really think that was the problem with Rodgers?.

 

Firstly I doubt Klopp will buy lots of attacking midfielders and neglect midfield and other areas.

 

Secondly Rodgers didn't have a consistent idea on how he wanted his team to play. Rodgers must have been a nightmare to work with. From 3 at the back wingback/fullbacks, possession to counterattack false 9 to lumps.

 

None of the above has anything to do with lists.

 

Rodgers is a bullshit merchant and the irony is he is probably talking himself out of future jobs by slagging his previous employers.

 

It might go down well on Talksport and goals on Sunday but most owners will see a man making feeble excuses who oversaw unprecedented spending at Liverpool.

[Gym Beglin]

There comes a point when Jurgen Klopp's involvement in the future of the club needs to be addressed.

 

One of the biggest problems for us as fans under Brendan Rodgers was that, from the beginning, there was no real trail of accountability between the decisions made by 'the club', and which people were actually involved in those decisions being made. The club is not some autonomous being, it's not a walking stadium, it's a collection of people in suits and tracksuits, and quite frankly it's all blurring into one uniform.

 

I know it's very early in Klopp's tenure at the club, but already these same question-marks are starting to appear over the transfer policy, and let's be honest, a manager succeeds or fails on the strength of the players that come into the club under their tenure.

 

Brendan Rodgers is in the media spotlight at the moment with comments about him wanting xyz and being offered other players, and so he feels his work was undermined by other people at the club. Right now we're seeing a situation where a new manager is in his first transfer window at the club and the types of names being mentioned as transfer targets seem incredulous, totally out of character for a manager like Klopp.

 

All supporters were elated when Klopp was announced as manager of Liverpool FC, and we know what he is capable of doing. We've seen the players bought for Dortmund when he was manager, and so when we see names like Steven Caulker, Shane Long, and Rob Green strongly linked with the club then supporters are understandably getting very nervous about where all this is going.

 

If Klopp wants to succeed at this club he needs to make it clear to supporters that he is 100% behind the signings being made, and not just taking a backseat to some nameless committee that can pull names out of hats and receive no criticism for when those signings go wrong. There are blackspots in the transfer selection process, and where there is darkness there is room for bad things to grow, and that is what is already happening here, and he needs to stop it now.

[JermainePennant]

Gerrard's three seasons under Rodgers:

 

Season App/Goals

12/13 - 46/10

13/14 - 39/14

14/15 - 37/13

 

Hardly injury prone (especially the season you're referring to), but even if you want to make the demonstrably false claim that he was, there's still nobody in this current squad capable of playing at a similar level or exerting the same level of influence over games.

 

As for Suarez, are you taking the piss? Even in the season before Rodgers arrived he scored 17 goals in 39 games, and was widely considered one of the best players in the league, if not the world. And whilst he did improve under Rodgers (not sure why this is relevant anyway), there's absolutely no reason to believe he wouldn't have improved at the same rate under another manager.

 

Again, the point is, there are no players in this current squad capable of making the contribution Gerrard and Suarez did in 12/13, and they're what makes the difference when the rest of your squad is full of average Joes.

I'm surprised about the number of games Gerrard played but I standby my comment that he was no longer world class,the season we challenged under Rafa where him and Torres were tearing teams apart he was.The season after that he was out for most of it and when Kenny took over he was out for the second half of that season, he never reached the level he did under Rafa again and was not played as an am anymore.

 

Suarez was a shit finisher when Kenny was here I can remember that clearly and they showed some examples last night on mnf, you say he got 17 in 39 that season but we got to both the carling and fa cup final that season playing mostly lower league teams and I'm quite sure he scored a few in those games.Yes he could have improved under a different manager but that's not guarenteed and I doubt it would have happened under Kenny, he wanted to play with a target man and get the ball wide while BR set the team up around Suarez.

 

This squad is very good and doesn't need revamping like when BR took over, we just need a couple of world class players added to improve the first 11 and the only positions which need a clear upgrade are the gk and dm positions.

[Lee909]

Doesn't need revamping

We need a new Keeper,cover for both fullbacks,minmum 2 new central midfielders,2 wingers and a striker

 

So at least 5/6 starters after spunking well over 200ml up the fucking wall. Lallana,Benteke,Lovren alone cost over £70ml ffs

[Section_31]

Jerome Sinclair to Watford permanently? Twitter rumour.

 

Wants 64k apparently 

[Josef Svejk]

Wants 64k apparently

A year?

[Russ Atmosphere]

I'm surprised about the number of games Gerrard played but I standby my comment that he was no longer world class,the season we challenged under Rafa where him and Torres were tearing teams apart he was.The season after that he was out for most of it and when Kenny took over he was out for the second half of that season, he never reached the level he did under Rafa again and was not played as an am anymore.

 

Suarez was a shit finisher when Kenny was here I can remember that clearly and they showed some examples last night on mnf, you say he got 17 in 39 that season but we got to both the carling and fa cup final that season playing mostly lower league teams and I'm quite sure he scored a few in those games.Yes he could have improved under a different manager but that's not guarenteed and I doubt it would have happened under Kenny, he wanted to play with a target man and get the ball wide while BR set the team up around Suarez.

 

This squad is very good and doesn't need revamping like when BR took over, we just need a couple of world class players added to improve the first 11 and the only positions which need a clear upgrade are the gk and dm positions.

 

[Paco]

Klopp on transfers

 

Klopp: “Yes. But does anybody have the final say. For example, say I wanted to take Zlatan Ibrahimovic and we have to pay £100m plus a big contract at 35 i think I would have to ask first!

 

“Sometimes my staff and I have an idea about a player, then we collect information and then we have players our scouts bring in and we speak about it.

 

“If I don’t want a player to come here then he will not come.

 

“If a player I want doesn’t fit our budget then he will not come to.

 

“It’s a normal situation.”

[A_S]

Everton, Chelsea, Stoke and both Manchester teams in those cup runs IIRC.