Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

5 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

You mean the border bollocks is an inconvenient truth to your incessant bullshit on this thread? Yep.. I've hit the nail on the head. Fucking Anne Widdecombe with a crew cut. 

No I'm saying the average brit cares little about N Irish politics, unless the troubles return the politcal intricacies are not going to register. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

She wouldn't; Thatcher had plenty of political leverage to leave the EU but didn't so much as take the first step, the Labour party of that time meanwhile leaving the EU written into its manifesto.

Did you miss the point unintentionally, or was that yet another screeching swerve?

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

No I'm saying the average brit cares little about N Irish politics, unless the troubles return the politcal intricacies are not going to register. 

Who is the average brit? 

[Gnasher]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Who is the average brit? 

Someone not particularly concerned or interested in politics, especially overseas politics.

[Gnasher]

3 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Did you miss the point unintentionally, or was that yet another screeching swerve?

Thatcher would have fucking nightmares over the wage rises given to many working class employees.

[Bjornebye]

2 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Someone not particularly concerned or interested in politics, especially overseas politics.

Can you stop chatting shit. Weird leave voting blert 

[Dr Nowt]

8 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Did you miss the point unintentionally, or was that yet another screeching swerve?

Why do you hate the working classes so much, Angry? Stop cheering for aristocractic landowners, you privileged luvvy. If I relentlessly reply with that sort of shit irrespective of the content of your replies, that means I win the exchange, yeah? Pretty sure that’s how adult communication works.

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Can you stop chatting shit. Weird leave voting blert 

How is that shit, its a fucking fact that most people are not interested in NI politics. Just because you may be dosnt mean they have to. Its a complex fucking nightmare of a situation at the best of times.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

How is that shit, its a fucking fact that most people are not interested in NI politics. Just because you may be dosnt mean they have to. Its a complex fucking nightmare of a situation at the best of times.

How can you speak for other people? You seem to have your oar in every fucking thing political on here yet all of a sudden NI isn't important to you? Why? Is it not a pretty central argument in the brexit fiasco? I was right wasn't I. It's inconvenient for you. 

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Dr Nowt said:

Why do you hate the working classes so much, Angry? Stop cheering for aristocractic landowners, you privileged luvvy. If I relentlessly reply with that sort of shit irrespective of the content of your replies, that means I win the exchange, yeah? Pretty sure that’s how adult communication works.

Not trying to win any Internet exchange with AOT, simply giving my opinion that not all the policy's pushed by the EU were beneficial to some of the poorest people in Britain. 

[Gnasher]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

How can you speak for other people? You seem to have your oar in every fucking thing political on here yet all of a sudden NI isn't important to you? Why? Is it not a pretty central argument in the brexit fiasco? I was right wasn't I. It's inconvenient for you. 

Because I'd guess the average person has little interest in English politics and NI as well as being across the sea is a lot more complex. 

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Because I'd guess the average person has little interest in English politics and NI as well as being across the sea is a lot more complex. 

So you're the "average person" ? 

[Gnasher]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

So you're the "average person" ? 

What type of questions that? What percentage of the population voted at the last election? I'm not sure but a large portion of the population couldn't give a fuck about the nitty gritty of our own parliament never mind the N Irish parliament. Their is not even a Labour or Conservative party in NI so I'd think that makes people here even more detached.

[Bjornebye]

3 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

What type of questions that? What percentage of the population voted at the last election? I'm not sure but a large portion of the population couldn't give a fuck about the nitty gritty of our own parliament never mind the N Irish parliament. Their is not even a Labour or Conservative party in NI so I'd think that makes people here even more detached.

So we started with you saying you couldn’t give a fuck about NI, you then said the average person couldn't give a fuck so I’m asking are you the average person?

 

 

 

If you need that in bigger font let me know 

[Gnasher]

9 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

So we started with you saying you couldn’t give a fuck about NI, you then said the average person couldn't give a fuck so I’m asking are you the average person?

 

 

 

If you need that in bigger font let me know 

 

NI is pretty low down on my list of concerns to be honest and i obviously can't speak for the rest of the UK but I'd be surprised if its on most people's minds. We live in a country which turns a blind eye to 130,000 covid deaths and lack of PPE, I'd be surprised if people are overly concerned about a northern irish trade border. Sorry. 

 

Edit. Why would some kid who's just been given a 60% pay rise picking fruit  down Kent give a fuck about the N Irish trade border? Maybe they do, I'm guessing they don't.

[Gnasher]

1 minute ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I know you are being shouted down and unnescercily abused but you make a valid point. It is unthinkable that we would have refused to implement results of the referendum because of the impact on Northern Ireland. We should probably have never asked the question without thinking through the implications of a yes vote for NI but once Brexit was approved, the Government didn't really have a choice but to implement it. Most people don't give a fuck about most things in politics generally let alone the niche intricacies of where to create a border in Northern Ireland but it would have caused massive problems in the UK if the Government had said "we hear the results of the referendum but we are not going to implement it because of the NI situation". 

Tony Blair was spot on when he commented most people couldn't care less about Westminster politics, people rightly or wrongly only seem to care about issues that relate to them, at the moment I doubt the N Irish issue barely registers. 

[Gnasher]

6 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

That article says there will be shortages of fresh food, some producers will go bust and the cost of the increased wages will go through to prices in the supermarket  (hitting poorer people hardest).

 

I'm waving a flag and singing the OBON anthem just reading that.  Happy Independence Day.

Aww poor farmers..

 

https://www.ft.com/content/11e49a14-5b89-4f23-ba47-2cde24dcd1ef

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Bad news for Gnash & Kurz - the Forrins are staying!

 

 

[Gnasher]

14 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Bad news for Gnash & Kurz - the Forrins are staying!

 

 

Good news. Immigration on the whole is beneficial to the UK. It's stuff like below that makes my blood boil..

 

https://www.ft.com/content/11e49a14-5b89-4f23-ba47-2cde24dcd1ef

 

[Gnasher]

20 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I'm a fan of immigration but not the racist pre Brexit policy which says its ok for mainly white europeans to travel freely between member states but not anybody else. I think a nationality blind skills/needs based points system is much better. 

Not sure about a points system but I agree EU free movement discriminates against African and West Indian countries, I fail to see why a nurse from Poland should have greater opportunities in Britain than a nurse from the Philippines for example. Also the pay rises that are now been given to the mainly working class occupations shows the policy of EU free movement suppressed wages and increased the profits of the most wealthy.

[Bruce Spanner]

Good then that the India trade deal leads to a lot of ‘non white’ being given visas for manual work.

 

Gotta replace the forrins, right?

[Davelfc]

Mobile operator EE will charge new customers extra to use their mobile phones in Europe from January.

 

Those joining or upgrading from 7 July 2021 will be charged £2 a day to use their allowances in 47 European destinations from January 2022.

EE previously said it had no plans to reintroduce roaming charges in Europe.

It is the first UK operator to reintroduce the charges since the Brexit trade deal was signed at the end of December. 

 

Since 2017, mobile networks in EU countries have not been allowed to charge customers extra to use their phones in other EU countries.

There are some "fair use" limits, for example, you cannot get a mobile phone contract from Romania and then use it all year round in Italy.

 

In January 2021, EE, O2, Three and Vodafone all stated they had no plans to reintroduce roaming charges, despite Brexit giving them the option to do so.

EE said on Thursday that introducing the charges would "support investment into our UK based customer service and leading UK network". 

However, it will not charge UK customers extra to use their phones in the Republic of Ireland.

Customers travelling to the 47 affected countries will be able to buy 30-day passes to use their home tariff abroad. The cost of those will depend on which tariff customers are on.

 

On Wednesday, it was reported that O2 was going to reintroduce roaming charges.

However, it is merely adding a "fair use" data cap of 25GB a month and will not charge customers more to use their phones in the EU.

 

Fair use limits are normal and were allowed when the UK was still part of the EU. From next month, Three will be reducing its fair use limit from 20GB a month to 12GB. 

 

The UK's trade deal with the EU says that both sides will encourage operators to have "transparent and reasonable rates" for roaming, but it did not ban charges.

The government's guidelines encouraged people traveling in Europe to check with their mobile operators to find out about any roaming charges.

[Pureblood]

Get Kevin Bacon to do another advert about how great roaming charges are and that nobody gives a fuck about NI. 

[Anubis]

Six EEs of Kevin Bacon.

[Davelfc]

How am I going to be an optimist about this?