Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

BBC 1 now.  Wish someone would

explain to these business owners their wages are going up.  

I'm on it, 

 

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Wow. Isn't the replacement for the EHIC beautiful(ly shite)! 

 

 

[Rico1304]

 

[Gnasher]

Ah good ol free movement...

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Ah good ol free movement...

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

11 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

I think it is only now becoming apparent how many UK businesses were using free movement of labour to treat their employees like paid slaves. Sports direct, Amazon, Uber, etc all relying on the huge wage differentials between western and eastern Europe to impose horrific working conditions and minimal job insecurity whilst their owners became billionaires. Now they’re are bleating they can’t get people in the UK to do their shit jobs. 

I think it was obvious then and it's proving obvious even to the skeptical now..

 

O,Connor from the Ft has been writing about the correlation between cheap labour and employers for a while, she's the journalist who wrote about the sweat shops in Leicester. Shes no lefty/brexiteer but was rightly nominated for the top journalistic awards this year, 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

2 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

The FT is probably the least bias and most informative of all of the UK media. 

Yeah deffo. 

[Gnasher]

 

[Rico1304]

17 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

People buy £3 t shirts in Primark and don’t consider where it comes from. 

That won’t change. They’ll be made in Leicester or Lisbon or Lima. 

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

That won’t change. They’ll be made in Leicester or Lisbon or Lima. 

Unfortunately I think you're right.

[Gnasher]

25 minutes ago, Colonel Kurtz said:

People buy £3 t shirts in Primark and don’t consider where it comes from. 

True but a lot of these clothes go for a bit more than that. 

 

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-billionaire-family-behind-fast-fashion-powerhouse-boohoo-2019-11

 

When we re join the EU they'll stop all that like they did before.

[Rico1304]

At least we now have the freedom to allow tired lorry drivers to work extra hours. Phew.  
 

Obviously that’s to solve other problems caused by Brexit. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Why is this in the EU thread?

Why today?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

3 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

At least we now have the freedom to allow tired lorry drivers to work extra hours. Phew.  
 

Obviously that’s to solve other problems caused by Brexit. 

Who on Earth could have foreseen that?

[Gnasher]

52 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Why is this in the EU thread?

Why today?

Because the same author has consistently written about the perils of low paid workers, 

 

[Gnasher]

9 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Who on Earth could have foreseen that?

A bit of overtime for our haulage workers, good on them. Its not compulsory because drivers are in a strong enough position to tell some haulage boss from Tesco to go whistle.

 

I thought you'd enjoy low paid workers being wanted and valued Angry. If its the safety aspect you're pushing I wouldn't lose too much sleep, they won't be driving 24/7 and foreign haulage drivers were the cause of a fair percentage of road traffic accidents. I'd bet on our roads actually now being safer. it'll be interesting to gauge the reaction to the ideal of re flooding the market/roads with a load of Latvian lorry drivers on doorsteps at the next election.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/crashes-involving-foreign-drivers-rise

 

[skend04]

5 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

A bit of overtime for our haulage workers, good on them. Its not compulsory because drivers are in a strong enough position to tell some haulage boss from Tesco to go whistle.

 

I thought you'd enjoy low paid workers being wanted and valued Angry. If its the safety aspect you're pushing I wouldn't lose too much sleep, they won't be driving 24/7 and foreign haulage drivers were the cause of a fair percentage of road traffic accidents. I'd bet on our roads actually now being safer. it'll be interesting to gauge the reaction to the ideal of re flooding the market/roads with a load of Latvian lorry drivers on doorsteps at the next election.

 

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/motoring/crashes-involving-foreign-drivers-rise

 

So you're happy being on a motorway with haulage drivers who might not have rested in the last 14/15 hours?

 

Well, I'll be happy for you to take part in that experiment. 

[Gnasher]

6 minutes ago, skend04 said:

So you're happy being on a motorway with haulage drivers who might not have rested in the last 14/15 hours?

 

Well, I'll be happy for you to take part in that experiment. 

Nice of you.

[skend04]

1 minute ago, Gnasher said:

Nice of you.

You're welcome.

[Gnasher]

The head of the Haulage Association has said drivers pay has risen substantially since the shortage. Good.

 

As for possible shortage of food in shops, also good. The country might benefit from a period of rationing, might make us all appreciate what we have and the people who work hard to give it to us. Be interesting if warehouse workers etc at large supermarkets who are on minimum wage decided nows the time to strike. Havn't the likes of Asda made huge profits during the pandemic?

[skend04]

Just now, Gnasher said:

The head of the Haulage Association has said drivers pay has risen substantially since the shortage. Good.

 

As for possible shortage of food in shops, also good. The country might benefit from a period of rationing, might make us all appreciate what we have and the people who work hard to give it to us. Be interesting if warehouse workers etc at large supermarkets who are on minimum wage decided nows the time to strike. Havn't the likes of Asda made huge profits during the pandemic?

Haha, Project Fear fully embraced by the leavers now 

 

Idiots 

[Gnasher]

Just now, skend04 said:

Haha, Project Fear fully embraced by the leavers now 

 

Idiots 

Didn't you make a big show about putting me on ignore a while back?  It must be awful for you no longer having lots of overseas staff to abuse and pay shit money in your shitty little firm but can't you understand its not my problem, tough titty.

[No2]

No Yorkshire puddings in 3 shops last Sunday. No nappy bags or disposable gloves in 2 of the 3. It's reached my life.

[Gnasher]

I very rarely go in large supermarkets anymore, grow my own and use independent local shops, fuck Tdsco.

[Gnasher]

Just now, No2 said:

No Yorkshire puddings in 3 shops last Sunday. No nappy bags or disposable gloves in 2 of the 3. It's reached my life.

I take it all back. Lack of Yorkshire puddings is a national crisis.