Agger: Rodgers doesn't think I'm good enough

[magicrat]

The manager and goalkeeper are the biggest issue defensively.

It might be simplistic but to my mind the biggest issue is no Carra. 

We lack a leader at the back to hold the line and get them from defending too deep under pressure

[Jairzinho]

It might be simplistic but to my mind the biggest issue is no Carra. 

We lack a leader at the back to hold the line and get them from defending too deep under pressure

 

Whilst I agree regarding a leader, until the keeper starts claiming crosses and balls lumped into the box then that will determine how deep the defenders have to defend. We can't just give opponent's free headers from 5-8 yards out.

 

Get Mignolet in the gym after the World Cup, and get someone to help him with his confidence. I want to see him smashing into forwards 10-12 yards out. He can be the leader the defence needs, he sees more of the game than anyone else.

 

It was his first season, it's not easy, especially in a key position whilst relatively young. I expect to see improvements next year, and think he'll grow into the role.

 

Deffo deserves a second season as he has shown more than enough quality in other areas of his keeping.

[Phoenix]

It might be simplistic but to my mind the biggest issue is no Carra. 

We lack a leader at the back to hold the line and get them from defending too deep under pressure

 

Carragher was one of the reasons we were defending too deep (towards the end of his career).

[Guest LFD]

The whole defensive issue is broader than just one player, whether it's the goalkeeper, Agger, or whoever. We play a different style of football to the Benitez days, where we would often play with two fairly regimented lines of players across the pitch, and usually fewer ahead of the ball. As a consequence, we would be in a position to have two lines across the park to defend, and the midfield close to the back line. These days, the midfield is closer to the front line than the back. If we do not retrieve the ball quickly, we are often exposed between the MF and the back line. This is exacerbated by the fact that we play our full backs further forward.

 

Our defence is more exposed than before, as we ask our midfield to take a much more active role in attacking and pressing the opposition high up the pitch. As we have seen countless times, with countless teams, it is possible for some very average players to defend very effectively as a unit providing they are well drilled and given adequate protection. That usually means compromises in other areas of the pitch. Houllier and Benitez took this approach more often than not. Rodgers doesn't. If we can find the calibre of defender that can play in his more exposed defence, then that will be perfect.

 

We are more attacking now, but I don't think we are defensively naive or get caught out on the counter attack often or leave loads of space for the opposition to exploit.

 

Most of the errors are basic mistakes - not winning headers, not tracking players, passing the opposition, basics.

[magicrat]

Whilst I agree regarding a leader, until the keeper starts claiming crosses and balls lumped into the box then that will determine how deep the defenders have to defend. We can't just give opponent's free headers from 5-8 yards out.

 

Get Mignolet in the gym after the World Cup, and get someone to help him with his confidence. I want to see him smashing into forwards 10-12 yards out. He can be the leader the defence needs, he sees more of the game than anyone else.

 

It was his first season, it's not easy, especially in a key position whilst relatively young. I expect to see improvements next year, and think he'll grow into the role.

 

Deffo deserves a second season as he has shown more than enough quality in other areas of his keeping.

I think we've had this conversation before. Share your doubts on Mig but agree we have to give him a second season . Better back up to give him competition was the conclusion last time I think. Essential we get an upgrade on Jones . I would snap Schwarzer up in a flash if Courtois's return meant he was available.  

[Jairzinho]

Aye, Speroni another option.

[Pureblood]

 

Get Mignolet in the gym after the World Cup, and get someone to help him with his confidence. I want to see him smashing into forwards 10-12 yards out. He can be the leader the defence needs, he sees more of the game than anyone else.

 

It was his first season, it's not easy, especially in a key position whilst relatively young. I expect to see improvements next year, and think he'll grow into the role.

 

My worry with this is maybe it's not something that's easy to acquire.  More that it comes naturally to goalkeepers who are good at it?

[magicrat]

Aye, Speroni another option.

He would be ideal but would he accept a back up role ?

He'll stay at Palace surely

[Jairzinho]

Aye probably. Unfortunately most keepers that would rather be a number 2 aren't who you'd want.

[stringvest]

most right backs don't want to be number 2 these days.

[Jairzinho]

Can't doubt Johnson's commitment to being a number 2.

[s(k)aturation]

Can't doubt Johnson's commitment to being a number 2.

 

Point me to the instances where he's aimed that high, Jairz, and there's a shiny sixpence in it for you.

[aRdja]

Can't doubt Johnson's commitment to being a number 2.

 

To be fair he wouldn't have felt like he needed to switch gears, given his position was under no threat regardless of form.

[Jairzinho]

Yeah, it was a shit pun. Literally.

[aRdja]

Yeah, it was a shit pun. Literally.

 

Aaaahh..

[Boss]

Whilst I agree regarding a leader, until the keeper starts claiming crosses and balls lumped into the box then that will determine how deep the defenders have to defend. We can't just give opponent's free headers from 5-8 yards out.

 

Get Mignolet in the gym after the World Cup, and get someone to help him with his confidence. I want to see him smashing into forwards 10-12 yards out. He can be the leader the defence needs, he sees more of the game than anyone else.

 

He needs to man up on corners, but his flying punch on Vidic was great to see at old toilet.

[Paco]

all the best danny. good player, seemed like a good lad.

 

good luck at brondby.

[fowler9]

all the best to Danny, can't help but think its a waste of talent as I think if it wasn't for the injuries and us being a shambles for a good few years of his time here he would've been among the best defenders in the world now, he also surely has far more to offer than the Danish league but he has always seemed to care greatly about both us and Brondby so fair play if he'd rather play somewhere he is happy

 

fee is on the low side, imagine we'd have asked for more if it wasn't a return home for sentimental reasons

[Elysian Red]

Sorry to see him go, to me he's a legend. He was Liverpool through and through and a great player, pity the injuries took their toll.

[ZonkoVille77]

All the best Anger lad.YNWA

[Elysian Red]

[Baltar]

Sell Agger but keep Toure? Madness. Agger was and still is a class act and I haven't seen anything from Lovren, Sakho or Skrtel that remotely make me think they're any better.

He's only 29 so I have no idea why he's gone to Brondby unless he just wants to go home now. He could still play at the very top in any league in Europe.

 

But good luck to the lad, a top guy.

[Delmar]

Rodgers is anti tattoo and pro teeth whitening.  Agger fails on both accounts.

[RobC]

On 5 live right now, Danny Murphy asking Phil Neville why Man Utd hadn't considered Agger for their massive defensive gap. Neville said Smalling, Jones, and Evans were better players!! 

[Mook]

On 5 live right now, Danny Murphy asking Phil Neville why Man Utd hadn't considered Agger for their massive defensive gap. Neville said Smalling, Jones, and Evans were better players!!

He's completely lost it then.