Andres Villas Boas

[18-5]

Okay.

 

Sometimes you have to be patient in life.

[myrlas]

I will watch Portos game tomorrow to try to get more insight in his style of play.

[JimmyConway]

I've a mate who's a Porto fan and he reckons Villa Boas turned down approaches from Inter Milan to replace Benitez. If that's true I reckon he's looking at staying with Porto for a few years yet.

 

 

 

My mate smokes a lot of hash though so he could easily have imagined the entire thing,but he's adamant VB won't leave for a while

[RedRoadEnd]

It would take Boas years to have a chance of getting up to speed. He'd have no idea of our culture and traditions. And it would guarantee we are utterly unattractive to current and propsective star players.

 

practically and culturally, itd be a joke appointment.

[18-5]

It would take Boas years to have a chance of getting up to speed. He'd have no idea of our culture and traditions. And it would guarantee we are utterly unattractive to current and propsective star players.

 

practically and culturally, itd be a joke appointment.

 

He may or may not be ideal for us but don't make up things to suit you argument.

 

After starting at a very young age on several positions in F.C. Porto's observation department under the guidance of then manager Bobby Robson, he achieved his UEFA C coaching licence illegally as a minor at the age of 17 in Scotland. He then had a short stint as head coach of the British Virgin Islands national football team at the age of 21,[3][4] before he moved onto a career as an assistant under the management of José Mourinho at Porto. As Mourinho moved clubs to Chelsea and Internazionale, Villas-Boas followed suit.[4]

[The Dude Abides]

Why the fuck not? If he was an option like?

 

Porto took that chance, they're a pretty big fucking club too.

 

And it's no more a risk than most the candidates imo. Plus, at least there'd be a bit of positive buzz about the club again(from most anyway i'd imagine), and the feeling that we were actually starting to build towards something.

[Beantown Red]

Because he will probably want to stay at Porto until at least next season.

 

League title - check (if they continue to play like they have)

Champions league - check (if they win title this season)

 

Instead of coming to Liverpool where if it goes wrong he is left with his reputation bruised and a resume with no league title or champions league experience.

 

Why would he take the risk?

[18-5]

Some of the good things about him.

 

1) He has worked with Star players at Chelsea, Inter and Porto.

 

2) He was under the guidance of Bobby Robson at Porto and was at Chelsea for 3 years so him not knowing about the English league is a rubbish thing to say.

 

3) Although he has been the 'manager' of a 'proper' team for only 2 years, he has been in management for over a decade now-talk about not having the experience.

 

4) He has been doing well with a top team in the country- not some mediocre one.

 

I want Van Gaal because I admire him a lot but even I can see that Villas Boas is a bit special.

[The Dude Abides]

 

Why would he take the risk?

 

 

Because greatness awaits.

[Torvald Utne]

Not for a foreigner in this country it doesn't!

[Dr Babatunde]

Villas Boas talks to Matt Hughes in tomorrow's Times about Mourinho, Porto, Bobby Robson and coming to the PL.

 

Anyone who has a subscription, if you could paste it on here, that would be much appreciated.

 

Thanks.

[TheHowieLama]

Haven't most figured out that KK is now gonna get a run at it? How can you suggest another outsider come in before that happens at this point? Anyone else will have a divisive effect and the owners will be vilified if they pull Kenny. The deed is done, stop bringing up the flavor of the month.

[BurtReynolds]

Kenny is strictly a caretaker everyone including Kenny was/is aware of that incuding the fans.. FSG want a young progressive coach who can build a dynasty. Relieving Kenny won't be divisive as the next manager will be a john Henry appointment and not a remnant of the hicks and Gilet era like Hodgson and he will get the ful backing, Simply can't see Kenny getting the job long term

[TheHowieLama]

Not the case now that the fever has caught. Two full years at least. Kenny is not old in the coaching circle.

 

The subject of this thread is a non starter at our club right now.

[Cherry Ghost]

Kenny is strictly a caretaker everyone including Kenny was/is aware of that incuding the fans.. FSG want a young progressive coach who can build a dynasty. Relieving Kenny won't be divisive as the next manager will be a john Henry appointment and not a remnant of the hicks and Gilet era like Hodgson and he will get the ful backing, Simply can't see Kenny getting the job long term

 

 

Get hip to the new world, time has moved on as well as moving backwards, in 2 years he'll be as old as Wenger is now, 4 years younger than Redknapp and 10 years younger than siralex. So that's 3 of the top 4 teams with older managers.

 

Its got to be ripped off him now.

[matfabian]

Living the dream, the man who stood up to Mourinho

 

 

Matt Hughes

1 minute ago

 

Once a protégé of the Special One, Porto’s successful coach is now being eyed by the likes of Liverpool, Matt Hughes says

 

The remarkable story of André Villas-Boas could have been taken from The Boy’s Own Paper or the myriad similar publications aimed at daydreaming youngsters in the more innocent days of the previous century, which would have been appropriate because he seems to possess an English fairy godmother. Or two, to be precise.

 

Without the friendship between Margaret Kendall, his English grandmother who moved to Portugal to start a wine business, and the late Sir Bobby Robson, Villas-Boas may have been watching tonight’s match between Beira-Mar and Porto from the press box rather than the visiting team’s dugout. With respect to many friends and colleagues in the Fourth Estate, that would have been a waste.

 

The most extraordinary aspect of Villas-Boas’s journey, however, is not its unusual origins, but the distance he could have left to travel. At the age of 33, in his first full season in coaching, he possesses the best record in Europe, superior during this campaign to those of Sir Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola and his other mentor, José Mourinho, one of the many reasons they are no longer close. The idea of future battles between master and apprentice appears to have been too much for Mourinho to contemplate.

 

Under the leadership of their rookie coach, who was appointed after only 23 matches in charge of Académica last season, Porto were the last team to be beaten anywhere in Europe this season, their solitary defeat at the start of this month coming in the League Cup. As a result they are eight points clear at the top of the table, having won 14 of their 16 matches, a huge improvement from last season, when they trailed in third behind Benfica and Sporting.

 

Villas-Boas was a curiosity among Mourinho’s backroom staff when he joined Chelsea’s twilight zone of opposition scouting in 2004, where his youth and English links would have given him an interesting tale to tell had he been allowed to speak, but he has since developed into a leading figure in his own right. Liverpool are likely to consider an approach if Kenny Dalglish does not stay on as manager beyond the summer, while several Italian clubs are also monitoring his progress. Having been given the job of his dreams only recently, Villas-Boas is in no hurry to leave Porto, but he will hanker after new challenges before too long, particularly a return to England.

 

“My expectations are to have a career I can be proud of,” he said when we met in Oporto yesterday. “I want to win this championship, I want to win more competitive leagues, but I also want to explore different leagues. I like other types of social and cultural behaviour, and am looking for that kind of stimulus.

 

“The Premier League is one of the most exciting leagues in the world. It’s not new for me what the Premier League means as I was there before. To get a job in the Premier League, you have to show you have quality, and I feel I still have to learn and evolve to get that kind of job. I want to work in other leagues, but this is a position I always wanted in my life and am not ready to give it away easily. I know I’m lucky that I got my dream job so quickly.”

 

That dream was born after a meeting with Robson, who invited him to attend Porto’s training sessions and even arranged for him to attend coaching courses at Lilleshall while under-age, but really developed after Mourinho joined the club in 2002 and gave him responsibility for compiling scouting reports on the opposition. There is a slight sadness in the air as he discusses the cooling of their relationship, which he is unwilling to address in detail, although that is offset by the sense of liberation at being allowed to be his own man.

 

“I’m associated with José, naturally, because I worked with him, but it’s not something I promote,” Villas-Boas said. “We have different personalities and different views towards the game. I respect José, but don’t want to be a Mourinho clone. I want to be able to work freely, without restraint, without worrying what he thinks.”

 

The shadow of Mourinho will hang over him until he starts to win silverware of his own, despite his insistence that their similarities are superficial. Although they rarely speak after Mourinho took umbrage at his decision to leave Inter Milan and was further annoyed by his return to Porto, Villas-Boas is full of praise for a man he believes will be remembered as the best coach of all time.

 

“There’s curiosity in two careers that look the same, but are not,” he said. “José is a PE teacher. I was unable to go as far in my studies as him as I took another route. To go back to university would have taken time and I was excited by the stimulus of an early start.

 

“We both coached young guys, but evolved differently. José went into professional football in a position on the pitch, whereas I observed the game. It’s very easy to compare things, but if you look at our personalities and what we have achieved, it’s very different. I don’t see myself reaching that level of success.

 

“José is a person who extracts the best from you. He expects you to be the best at what you do, which keeps you on your toes. You have to constantly perform for him so he can perform and bring success. I was happy to be part of such a technical set-up.”

 

Villas-Boas was always going to follow his own path, with sources at Chelsea recalling that the redheaded twentysomething was the only member of Mourinho’s coterie prepared to challenge him in public. Whereas the rest of his coaching staff would leap up from the dinner table at the first sign of restlessness from the boss, Villas-Boas would often stay and linger over his coffee, an early — if trivial — sign of defiance.

 

His footballing philosophy is also different, one closer to Arsène Wenger’s view of the game as a grand spectacle rather than Mourinho’s grim, strategic battle. This more relaxed approach has been welcomed by Porto’s young players, who had little time for the authoritarian style of his predecessor, the 64-year-old Jesualdo Ferreira.

 

“I love creativity in my players and the unpredictable part of the game,” Villas-Boas said. “I believe that for the players to express themselves to their full potential, they must be able to take choices during the game. I’m not a dictator. I give them freedom of choice, bearing in mind the foundations of our organisation. I believe that with freedom the players can achieve their potential and make better decisions.”

 

This attitude chimes with Robson’s oft-expressed belief that football is a simple game, while the former England manager would also have been heartened by the progress of an unknown career coach with no playing history in this celebrity-obsessed era.

 

“Bobby gave me the stimulus to start my career,” Villas-Boas said. “I was planning to go into sports journalism, but had the opportunity to confront him about my club, how they were doing and the way the team played. Only an open-minded person like Bobby would accept such arrogance from a young kid.

 

“This is the job I always wanted to have. It’s my own club, my own town and the club I always defended as a boy. It will always be a gamble for someone as young as myself, but I was sure I’d be able to give the club success. I think there’s a new respect for coaching. As José used to say, you don’t have to be a piano to be a good pianist. People can rise in the game via various different routes.”

 

Whatever his future holds, Villas-Boas has already demonstrated that some boys’ dreams do come true.

 

Life and times

 

• Born in Oporto on October 17, 1977

 

As a 16-year-old met Bobby Robson, who arranged for him to watch Porto training sessions and take his FA coaching badge at Lilleshall

 

Began coaching Porto’s youth teams at 17 before spending a year as director of football of the British Virgin Islands, at 21

 

Appointed head of the opposition observation department at Porto in 2002 by José Mourinho, whom he followed to Chelsea and Inter Milan

 

Left Inter in 2009 to take his first coaching job in Portugal at Académica, averting relegation

 

Appointed coach of Porto, where he has set a club record of 36 matches unbeaten this season

 

Background

 

Both men are from wealthy families, with André Villas-Boas boasting a count and a baron among his relatives, although he was not born into footballing aristocracy like José Mourinho, whose father was a Portugal goalkeeper. Villas-Boas’s chief advantage in life has been his intelligence and industry, as well as having the sheer nerve to approach Bobby Robson at such a young age.

 

Image

 

If not a natural pin-up like Mourinho, the younger model possesses a similar sense of style, usually wearing dark suits and white shirts, with a hint of stubble adding gravitas to his youthful complexion. At 33, he is 14 years younger, but the sensible side-parting in his auburn hair is reminiscent of Robert Redford, in contrast to Mourinho’s silver fox likeness to George Clooney.

 

Temperament

 

As with many redheads, Villas-Boas possesses a fiery temperament, with a Mourinho-esque disdain for authority. Frank Rijkaard tried to punch him after one of Chelsea’s volatile clashes with Barcelona and it was Villas-Boas’s testimony that led to the infamous Anders Frisk affair at the Nou Camp six years ago. He has been outspoken in his criticism of Benfica in Portugal this season, although his language is less colourful than Mourinho’s.

 

Playing style

 

Villas-Boas has stayed faithful to the 4-3-3 formation that has brought Mourinho success in four countries, but places more emphasis on attacking football. Villas-Boas shares Arsène Wenger’s view of football as entertainment, with his players given freedom to express themselves and Porto’s wingers encouraged to play farther up the pitch in support of a central striker.

 

Trophies

 

Given that Villas-Boas is in his first full season of coaching, he cannot hope to compete with Mourinho’s extraordinary haul of two Champions League titles, a brace of domestic championships in Portugal, England and Italy as well as several cup triumphs, but he has not started badly. He has broken one of Mourinho’s records, helping Porto to set a club record of 36 matches without defeat. Silverware should follow.

[TheHowieLama]

 

Given that Villas-Boas is in his first full season of coaching,

 

nutshell

[BurtReynolds]

nutshell

 

Same could be said of Kenny in 85-86. Well worth the gamble. A true coaching prodigy. Whoever get's him will have a bright future.

[TheHowieLama]

Same could be said of Kenny in 85-86. Well worth the gamble. A true coaching prodigy. Whoever get's him will have a bright future.

 

except Kenny came from the clubs core and was one of the greatest players ever. Otherwise pretty similar...

[Dr Babatunde]

Living the dream, the man who stood up to Mourinho

 

 

Matt Hughes

1 minute ago

 

Once a protégé of the Special One, Porto’s successful coach is now being eyed by the likes of Liverpool, Matt Hughes says

 

The remarkable story of André Villas-Boas could have been taken from The Boy’s Own Paper or the myriad similar publications aimed at daydreaming youngsters in the more innocent days of the previous century, which would have been appropriate because he seems to possess an English fairy godmother. Or two, to be precise.

 

Without the friendship between Margaret Kendall, his English grandmother who moved to Portugal to start a wine business, and the late Sir Bobby Robson, Villas-Boas may have been watching tonight’s match between Beira-Mar and Porto from the press box rather than the visiting team’s dugout. With respect to many friends and colleagues in the Fourth Estate, that would have been a waste.

 

The most extraordinary aspect of Villas-Boas’s journey, however, is not its unusual origins, but the distance he could have left to travel. At the age of 33, in his first full season in coaching, he possesses the best record in Europe, superior during this campaign to those of Sir Alex Ferguson, Pep Guardiola and his other mentor, José Mourinho, one of the many reasons they are no longer close. The idea of future battles between master and apprentice appears to have been too much for Mourinho to contemplate.

 

Under the leadership of their rookie coach, who was appointed after only 23 matches in charge of Académica last season, Porto were the last team to be beaten anywhere in Europe this season, their solitary defeat at the start of this month coming in the League Cup. As a result they are eight points clear at the top of the table, having won 14 of their 16 matches, a huge improvement from last season, when they trailed in third behind Benfica and Sporting.

 

Villas-Boas was a curiosity among Mourinho’s backroom staff when he joined Chelsea’s twilight zone of opposition scouting in 2004, where his youth and English links would have given him an interesting tale to tell had he been allowed to speak, but he has since developed into a leading figure in his own right. Liverpool are likely to consider an approach if Kenny Dalglish does not stay on as manager beyond the summer, while several Italian clubs are also monitoring his progress. Having been given the job of his dreams only recently, Villas-Boas is in no hurry to leave Porto, but he will hanker after new challenges before too long, particularly a return to England.

 

“My expectations are to have a career I can be proud of,” he said when we met in Oporto yesterday. “I want to win this championship, I want to win more competitive leagues, but I also want to explore different leagues. I like other types of social and cultural behaviour, and am looking for that kind of stimulus.

 

“The Premier League is one of the most exciting leagues in the world. It’s not new for me what the Premier League means as I was there before. To get a job in the Premier League, you have to show you have quality, and I feel I still have to learn and evolve to get that kind of job. I want to work in other leagues, but this is a position I always wanted in my life and am not ready to give it away easily. I know I’m lucky that I got my dream job so quickly.”

 

That dream was born after a meeting with Robson, who invited him to attend Porto’s training sessions and even arranged for him to attend coaching courses at Lilleshall while under-age, but really developed after Mourinho joined the club in 2002 and gave him responsibility for compiling scouting reports on the opposition. There is a slight sadness in the air as he discusses the cooling of their relationship, which he is unwilling to address in detail, although that is offset by the sense of liberation at being allowed to be his own man.

 

“I’m associated with José, naturally, because I worked with him, but it’s not something I promote,” Villas-Boas said. “We have different personalities and different views towards the game. I respect José, but don’t want to be a Mourinho clone. I want to be able to work freely, without restraint, without worrying what he thinks.”

 

The shadow of Mourinho will hang over him until he starts to win silverware of his own, despite his insistence that their similarities are superficial. Although they rarely speak after Mourinho took umbrage at his decision to leave Inter Milan and was further annoyed by his return to Porto, Villas-Boas is full of praise for a man he believes will be remembered as the best coach of all time.

 

“There’s curiosity in two careers that look the same, but are not,” he said. “José is a PE teacher. I was unable to go as far in my studies as him as I took another route. To go back to university would have taken time and I was excited by the stimulus of an early start.

 

“We both coached young guys, but evolved differently. José went into professional football in a position on the pitch, whereas I observed the game. It’s very easy to compare things, but if you look at our personalities and what we have achieved, it’s very different. I don’t see myself reaching that level of success.

 

“José is a person who extracts the best from you. He expects you to be the best at what you do, which keeps you on your toes. You have to constantly perform for him so he can perform and bring success. I was happy to be part of such a technical set-up.”

 

Villas-Boas was always going to follow his own path, with sources at Chelsea recalling that the redheaded twentysomething was the only member of Mourinho’s coterie prepared to challenge him in public. Whereas the rest of his coaching staff would leap up from the dinner table at the first sign of restlessness from the boss, Villas-Boas would often stay and linger over his coffee, an early — if trivial — sign of defiance.

 

His footballing philosophy is also different, one closer to Arsène Wenger’s view of the game as a grand spectacle rather than Mourinho’s grim, strategic battle. This more relaxed approach has been welcomed by Porto’s young players, who had little time for the authoritarian style of his predecessor, the 64-year-old Jesualdo Ferreira.

 

“I love creativity in my players and the unpredictable part of the game,” Villas-Boas said. “I believe that for the players to express themselves to their full potential, they must be able to take choices during the game. I’m not a dictator. I give them freedom of choice, bearing in mind the foundations of our organisation. I believe that with freedom the players can achieve their potential and make better decisions.”

 

This attitude chimes with Robson’s oft-expressed belief that football is a simple game, while the former England manager would also have been heartened by the progress of an unknown career coach with no playing history in this celebrity-obsessed era.

 

“Bobby gave me the stimulus to start my career,” Villas-Boas said. “I was planning to go into sports journalism, but had the opportunity to confront him about my club, how they were doing and the way the team played. Only an open-minded person like Bobby would accept such arrogance from a young kid.

 

“This is the job I always wanted to have. It’s my own club, my own town and the club I always defended as a boy. It will always be a gamble for someone as young as myself, but I was sure I’d be able to give the club success. I think there’s a new respect for coaching. As José used to say, you don’t have to be a piano to be a good pianist. People can rise in the game via various different routes.”

 

Whatever his future holds, Villas-Boas has already demonstrated that some boys’ dreams do come true.

 

Life and times

 

• Born in Oporto on October 17, 1977

 

As a 16-year-old met Bobby Robson, who arranged for him to watch Porto training sessions and take his FA coaching badge at Lilleshall

 

Began coaching Porto’s youth teams at 17 before spending a year as director of football of the British Virgin Islands, at 21

 

Appointed head of the opposition observation department at Porto in 2002 by José Mourinho, whom he followed to Chelsea and Inter Milan

 

Left Inter in 2009 to take his first coaching job in Portugal at Académica, averting relegation

 

Appointed coach of Porto, where he has set a club record of 36 matches unbeaten this season

 

Background

 

Both men are from wealthy families, with André Villas-Boas boasting a count and a baron among his relatives, although he was not born into footballing aristocracy like José Mourinho, whose father was a Portugal goalkeeper. Villas-Boas’s chief advantage in life has been his intelligence and industry, as well as having the sheer nerve to approach Bobby Robson at such a young age.

 

Image

 

If not a natural pin-up like Mourinho, the younger model possesses a similar sense of style, usually wearing dark suits and white shirts, with a hint of stubble adding gravitas to his youthful complexion. At 33, he is 14 years younger, but the sensible side-parting in his auburn hair is reminiscent of Robert Redford, in contrast to Mourinho’s silver fox likeness to George Clooney.

 

Temperament

 

As with many redheads, Villas-Boas possesses a fiery temperament, with a Mourinho-esque disdain for authority. Frank Rijkaard tried to punch him after one of Chelsea’s volatile clashes with Barcelona and it was Villas-Boas’s testimony that led to the infamous Anders Frisk affair at the Nou Camp six years ago. He has been outspoken in his criticism of Benfica in Portugal this season, although his language is less colourful than Mourinho’s.

 

Playing style

 

Villas-Boas has stayed faithful to the 4-3-3 formation that has brought Mourinho success in four countries, but places more emphasis on attacking football. Villas-Boas shares Arsène Wenger’s view of football as entertainment, with his players given freedom to express themselves and Porto’s wingers encouraged to play farther up the pitch in support of a central striker.

 

Trophies

 

Given that Villas-Boas is in his first full season of coaching, he cannot hope to compete with Mourinho’s extraordinary haul of two Champions League titles, a brace of domestic championships in Portugal, England and Italy as well as several cup triumphs, but he has not started badly. He has broken one of Mourinho’s records, helping Porto to set a club record of 36 matches without defeat. Silverware should follow.

 

Thanks a lot for that matfabian. Good read. Much appreciated:thumbup:

[Dr Babatunde]

Same could be said of Kenny in 85-86. Well worth the gamble. A true coaching prodigy. Whoever get's him will have a bright future.

 

Also Guardiola at Barca. Admittedly, on both occasions they had a team full of quality players, but we could also assemble a quality squad with a rigorous recruitment drive.

[TheHowieLama]

Also Guardiola at Barca. Admittedly, on both occasions they had a team full of quality players, but we could also assemble a quality squad with a rigorous recruitment drive.

 

except Pep came from the clubs core and was one of the greatest players ever. Otherwise pretty similar...

[Trucker Paddy]

Rather we gave it to Carragher in a few years tbh

[Dr Babatunde]

except Pep came from the clubs core and was one of the greatest players ever. Otherwise pretty similar...

 

That in itself doesn't mean much if they don't have the talent to go with it. Look at Souness and Evans at LFC, both from different backgrounds, but knew the club and contributed to it's success as player and coach respectively. Klinsmann was a great player and had played for B Munich, but didn't last the season as manager of B munich in his first season, in his first managerial role.

 

Villas Boas is very talented.

[TheHowieLama]

That in itself doesn't mean much if they don't have the talent to go with it. Look at Souness and Evans at LFC, both from different backgrounds, but knew the club and contributed to it's success as player and coach respectively. Klinsmann was a great player and had played for B Munich, but didn't last the season as manager of B munich in his first season, in his first managerial role.

 

Villas Boas is very talented.

 

I am not commenting on his talent, I am pointing out where the club is as a whole.