Safe Standing at Anfield

[WaltonRed]

100% behind it

[The Dude Abides]

I don't see why not. It's not like it would be possible to have overcrowding and everyone is assigned their own space. Much safer too than actually standing up in seated areas.

[Funkasy]

Are there any seats in germany? or are they always standing up ?

 

Bayern Munich (Capacity: 69,901)

[Dougie Do'ins]

The fact remains that if Hillsborough was all seating then the disaster wouldn't have happened so that's a no from me.

I understand that the options mentioned are a lot safer than what we had in the 80s but even so i couldn't countenance it

The chances of it happening had seats been in place might well have reduced the risk but there is no guarantee it wouldn't have happened. Many of the people injured and some that died, got caught in the tunnel that linked the rear of Leppings Lane with the terraces. It was the funneling into this bottle neck that was one of the reasons that lead to the disaster.

 

The catalyst was to many people trying to enter a section of the stadium that just couldn't cope with the numbers. I've been to an all seated Wembley and Cardiff and have been in situations while trying to enter that were all to familiar of what happened that day at Hillsborough.

 

Did they make any changes to how we enter stadiums ? Did they fuck.

[WaltonRed]

I think with ayre saying we'd look at it means its been discussed.

 

We could stay at anfield with a bigger capacity with next to no re-building work.

[Eljeficito]

As someone above stated I think the families of those most deeply effected by what happened at hillsborough should have the ultimate say if it was top be considered. They've been through enough and in my opinion even if one person effected is against it, it should be a "non starter." Ultimately, the all seating stadia was created due to the disaster, which in itself serves as a memorial to those who died.

[Paul]

It wasn't the cages that caused Hillsborough; it was criminal negligence from the police.

 

I'm totally in favour of this as it means we can massively expand our capacity for a relatively small outlay whilst staying at Anfield and recapturing the culture of the terraces. Furthermore, it means going to the match becomes a much more accessible and affordable activity for all, but especially kids who are as good as shut out right now. Anfield would be much more of a cash cow than it is now and would also become a much more intimidating place for opponents than it has been for the last twenty (mostly) muted years.

[WaltonRed]

I think if we ok it a lot of other clubs would follow.

 

Paul's spot on with his post.

 

as Henry himself said if the fans dont want something its a none starter, but loads want this so you just never know.

[zigackly]

I mean no disrespect to anyone affected by the tragedy in saying this but in my opinion bringing safe standing into the Hillsborough debate detracts from the fight for justice.

 

Hillsborough was caused by a failure in crowd safety measures by the South Yorkshire police, not by standing terraces.

[longtimered]

Having been at both Heysel and Hillsbrough then i know neither tragedy would have occured in all seater stadiums.How many people who vote yes to standing were at either or both.

[Tyler Durden]

I honestly don't see how there is a problem with properly managed standing areas, nowhere near the amount would/should be allowed into the stands as there used to be but even more importantly fans arnt fenced in now over here so I don't really see how it would create any danger

[WaltonRed]

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[Tyler Durden]

I don't see why not. It's not like it would be possible to have overcrowding and everyone is assigned their own space. Much safer too than actually standing up in seated areas.

 

It is badly dodgy and 10 times more dangerous jumping for a goal in seated areas, I've lost count how many times I've near broke my legs falling

[Dougie Do'ins]

Having been at both Heysel and Hillsbrough then i know neither tragedy would have occured in all seater stadiums.How many people who vote yes to standing were at either or both.

I was at both and I voted yes.

[theghost]

For the purpose of improving atmosphere, I'd say yes. As has been said, everyone stands on the Kop anyway.

 

If there is a way of doing this safely, and many grounds have shown that it's possible, I'm for it.

[Malarkey]

Couldn't find any pictures but there is safe standing at the Bernabeu. They have standing bars on each seat which is a pretty ingenious idea in my view.

 

The atmosphere in Anfield will still be shit anyway.

[mattyq]

It wasn't the cages that caused Hillsborough; it was criminal negligence from the police.

 

I'm totally in favour of this as it means we can massively expand our capacity for a relatively small outlay whilst staying at Anfield and recapturing the culture of the terraces. Furthermore, it means going to the match becomes a much more accessible and affordable activity for all, but especially kids who are as good as shut out right now. Anfield would be much more of a cash cow than it is now and would also become a much more intimidating place for opponents than it has been for the last twenty (mostly) muted years.

 

Have to disagree a little there, Paul. It was both the cages, the police, the tunnel, the terraces and other factors that led to the tragedy.

I was a student in Sheffield at the time and knew Hillsborough well which probably saved my life.

I know terracing gives you a better atmosphere and loads of other good things but not for me

Kenny knows

[Trumo]

Couldn't find any pictures but there is safe standing at the Bernabeu. They have standing bars on each seat which is a pretty ingenious idea in my view.

 

The atmosphere in Anfield will still be shit anyway.

 

I'm not so sure they have safe standing areas. I think it's more to do with the fact the stands have steeply raked tiers.

[mypost]

No.

 

There's no such thing as a "safe" terrace. All it takes is one disaster to demonstrate that, it's not worth the risk.

[theghost]

[Trumo]

The Innsbruck model you've described sounds like exactly the same thing Werder Bremen have installed in their new stands. The idea is certainly clever, but the seats look very very poor.

 

 

That's exactly what Werder Bremen have. But in green of course.

[StevieH]

 

That particular safe standing option probably wouldn't increase our current capacity.

[zigackly]

That particular safe standing option probably wouldn't increase our current capacity.

 

Impossible to deny it's safer than standing in a seated terrace though.

[mlwilliams]

I'd prefer safe standing, but it just depends how they go about it.

[The Dude Abides]

I think with ayre saying we'd look at it means its been discussed.

 

We could stay at anfield with a bigger capacity with next to no re-building work.

 

Where are people getting this bigger capacity thing from? Looking at how the Germans do it, it doesn't look as though the standing takes up any less room than the seats do.