Keir Starmer

[Arniepie]

5 hours ago, Rushies tash said:

15% want the NHS privatised? Jesus wept.

Surprised its that low 

[Numero Veinticinco]

6 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Surprised its that low 

Again, it’s only that low because those are views of Labour voters. Not sure why they vote Labour if they want a privatised NHS, but anyway. If it was the rest of the UK, I would be surprised if it wasn’t a much bigger number. 
 

If we have to use private companies as a short term measure to help lift the pressure of Tory mismanagement, that’s one thing, but that isn’t privatisation. Any selling off of the NHS should be meet with massive outcry and pushback. 

[Kevin D]

Owen Jones, Owen Jones, Owen Jones

 

You people never shut up about the fucking guy.

[Bjornebye]

21 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Again, it’s only that low because those are views of Labour voters. Not sure why they vote Labour if they want a privatised NHS, but anyway. If it was the rest of the UK, I would be surprised if it wasn’t a much bigger number. 
 

If we have to use private companies as a short term measure to help lift the pressure of Tory mismanagement, that’s one thing, but that isn’t privatisation. Any selling off of the NHS should be meet with massive outcry and pushback. 

 

It would be higher and a lot of that extra percentage would be tory voters who either already are private so don't give a fuck or 'partizan' twats who would vote against anything that even sniffs of a labour/woke/left agenda because they'd let cunts ike Boris burn their house down and still call him the messiah. 

 

Oh and a few 'centrists' masquerading as Labour/Liberal..... 

[Mudface]

1 minute ago, Bjornebye said:

 

It would be higher and a lot of that extra percentage would be tory voters who either already are private so don't give a fuck or 'partizan' twats who would vote against anything that even sniffs of a labour/woke/left agenda because they'd let cunts ike Boris burn their house down and still call him the messiah. 

 

Oh and a few 'centrists' masquerading as Labour/Liberal..... 

 

He's not the Messiah, he's a revolting fat, corrupt cunt who stinks of Drum, BO, shit and Lynx Africa.

[Bjornebye]

13 minutes ago, Mudface said:

 

He's not the Messiah, he's a revolting fat, corrupt cunt who stinks of Drum, BO, shit and Lynx Africa.

 

And Boris? 

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Again, it’s only that low because those are views of Labour voters.

 

You're wrong again SuperStarmsiii. The vast majority of  'all'  voters now want assets kept out of private hands.

 

 

4 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

Not sure why they vote Labour if they want a privatised NHS, but anyway. If it was the rest of the UK, I would be surprised if it wasn’t a much bigger number. 
 

If we have to use private companies as a short term measure to help lift the pressure of Tory mismanagement, that’s one thing, but that isn’t privatisation. Any selling off of the NHS should be meet with massive outcry and pushback. 

 

Here you go, only 12% of all voters want the NHS to be privatised.

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/20660309.even-tories-support-publicly-owned-utilities-survation-poll-finds/

 

Even Tory voters realise privatisation has been disastrous.

 

https://www.newstatesman.com/quickfire/2022/08/tory-voters-want-nationalise-energy

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

Speaking of NHS privatisation. 

 

 

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

5 hours ago, Gnasher said:

You're wrong again SuperStarmsiii. 

 

I just cannot debate at a level where people simply don't understand words, numbers, or even the key information they post. It's just too fucking tiring. You're a mouth breathing drone who gets information from twitter but doesn't have the critical thinking, reading, or counting skills to process and assess that information before mindlessly drawing conclusions and splurging your dogshit opinion all over the place. *sigh* It's so boring. But one last time, let's do it. After that, you're just going on ignore and you can sucker others into your vacuous world of ignorance. 

 

I made two claims in the posts you say is 'wrong again, SuperStamsii', which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Cringe indeed. 1) I said 'it's only Labour voters'. It clearly says in the picture - I know how you like pictures - that it's Labour voters, so that's obviously not wrong. 2) I said 'it's only that low because...', which is easy to check because we know the survey and we have the data tables. I'm saying the 15% figure (which is actually 14.7%, 10.5 of which support privatisation and 4.2 undecided - 85.4% supporting public ownership) would be bigger if it wasn't just Labour voters. So let's see if you can count... (spoiler alert, you can't) the overall figure from the data table - linked in your post - is *drumroll* 21.8% (if you'd like help figuring out if 21.8 is bigger than 15.4%, I can hook you up with a nice abacus). The figures overall, taken directly from the data table:

 

 

So, how - exactly - am I 'wrong again'? Or is this just another one of those times you say something, get shown up, then ignore it and post another inane twitter link. 

[cloggypop]

On 28/12/2022 at 20:49, Jairzinho said:

Bring him to Cloggy's home. 

 

Oi! 

 

I'm 21 kilometers from The Hague. 

 

And we're full. 

[Arniepie]

10 hours ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

Again, it’s only that low because those are views of Labour voters. Not sure why they vote Labour if they want a privatised NHS, but anyway. If it was the rest of the UK, I would be surprised if it wasn’t a much bigger number. 
 

If we have to use private companies as a short term measure to help lift the pressure of Tory mismanagement, that’s one thing, but that isn’t privatisation. Any selling off of the NHS should be meet with massive outcry and pushback. 

Im not so sure..the hostility out there to the NHS,especially since the strikes began is quite ashtonishing, but not really surprising.

Never understimate the levels of cuntery in this country.

 

[Gnasher]

26 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

I just cannot debate at a level where people simply don't understand words, numbers, or even the key information they post. It's just too fucking tiring. You're a mouth breathing drone who gets information from twitter but doesn't have the critical thinking, reading, or counting skills to process and assess that information before mindlessly drawing conclusions and splurging your dogshit opinion all over the place. *sigh* It's so boring. But one last time, let's do it. After that, you're just going on ignore and you can sucker others into your vacuous world of ignorance. 

 

I made two claims in the posts you say is 'wrong again, SuperStamsii', which made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. Cringe indeed. 1) I said 'it's only Labour voters'. It clearly says in the picture - I know how you like pictures - that it's Labour voters, so that's obviously not wrong. 2) I said 'it's only that low because...', which is easy to check because we know the survey and we have the data tables. I'm saying the 15% figure (which is actually 14.7%, 10.5 of which support privatisation and 4.2 undecided - 85.4% supporting public ownership) would be bigger if it wasn't just Labour voters. So let's see if you can count... (spoiler alert, you can't) the overall figure from the data table - linked in your post - is *drumroll* 21.8% (if you'd like help figuring out if 21.8 is bigger than 15.4%, I can hook you up with a nice abacus). The figures overall, taken directly from the data table:

 

 

So, how - exactly - am I 'wrong again'? Or is this just another one of those times you say something, get shown up, then ignore it and post another inane twitter link. 

Aww SuperSparmsiii has got himself all upset again. 

 

You've once again missed the point Stamsiii. Let's take in baby steps.

 

1..Starmer is leading a party whose members are predominantly for taking assets back into public hands.

 

 

2..Starmer will probably also soon be leading a country which is also predominantly in favour of taking assets back into public hands.

 

3..Starmer won the leadership of the Labour Party by pledging to take assets such as Energy/Water/Rail back into public hands. How you following thus far Magnus? Still with me?

 

 

4...Starmer has now gone back on that pledge DESPITE the policy being popular with country as a whole. I put the word despite in CAPITAL letters because it blows away the stale old argument of Starmer only doing another u turn (and he's done a few, he's like a spinning top) because it will increase the chances of Labour gaining power. 

 

5. Conclusion.. Warning, this may upset you.. you have a problem with even the mildest criticism of your fav politician, like a teensge girl fawning over a rock star. Kinda cute in its own way.

 

Starmer is a bullshitter who's word now means absolutely nothing. Its even possible he's in the palm of shareholders/oil firms/directors/bankers/business etc as their is no other logical conclusion to be made for not doing what the country both needs and wants. In short the mans a cunt.

[Gnasher]

22 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

Im not so sure..the hostility out there to the NHS,especially since the strikes began is quite ashtonishing, but not really surprising.

Never understimate the levels of cuntery in this country.

 

 

Youre always going to have a few but the good news is the vast majority of the country now want public ownership Arnie and the vast majority of the country want to keep the NHS out of private hands. 

 

It's the people who refusing to deliver the will of those people who are the real cunts.

[Numero Veinticinco]

13 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Aww SuperSparmsiii has got himself all upset again. 

 

You've once again missed the point Stamsiii. Let's take in baby steps.

 

1..Starmer is leading a party whose members are predominantly for taking assets back into public hands.

 

 

2..Starmer will probably also soon be leading a country which is also predominantly in favour of taking assets back into public hands.

 

3..Starmer won the leadership of the Labour Party by pledging to take assets such as Energy/Water/Rail back into public hands. How you following thus far Magnus? Still with me?

 

 

4...Starmer has now gone back on that pledge DESPITE the policy being popular with country as a whole. I put the word despite in CAPITAL letters because it blows away the stale old argument of Starmer only doing another u turn (and he's done a few, he's like a spinning top) because it will increase the chances of Labour gaining power. 

 

5. Conclusion.. Warning, this may upset you.. you have a problem with even the mildest criticism of your fav politician, like a teensge girl fawning over a rock star. Kinda cute in its own way.

 

Starmer is a bullshitter who's word now means absolutely nothing. Its even possible he's in the palm of shareholders/oil firms/directors/bankers/business etc as their is no other logical conclusion to be made for not doing what the country both needs and wants. In short the mans a cunt.

So you say I’m wrong, get shown to be unable to count, then go off on a conspiracy tangent about something I’ve not mentioned. You are thick as pig shit. 

[Gnasher]

33 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

So you say I’m wrong, get shown to be unable to count, then go off on a conspiracy tangent about something I’ve not mentioned. You are thick as pig shit. 

 

You upset again? Not having a good time of it are you Magnus? 

 

Only yesterday you and your massively big brain threw down the assumption that the likes of Zarah Sultana, Jeremy Corbyn and Ian Byrne would not be capable of organising hourly resignations. How very odd. I gave links to their work in Parliament to prove otherwise. So yet more hogswill from SuperStarmsiii.

 

Anyway the bottom line is anyone not in favour of common ownership shouldn't be in the Labour Party.  

 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

32 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

You upset again? Not having a good time of it are you Magnus? 

 

Only yesterday you and your massively big brain threw down the assumption that the likes of Zarah Sultana, Jeremy Corbyn and Ian Byrne would not be capable of organising hourly resignations. How very odd. I gave links to their work in Parliament to prove otherwise. So yet more hogswill from SuperStarmsiii.

 

Anyway the bottom line is anyone not in favour of common ownership shouldn't be in the Labour Party.  

 

 

 

You're a nobody; there's no chance you could upset me. I'd happily see your throat slit and wouldn't raise an eyebrow. You're now trying to deflect that you can't count, that you were completely wrong - again - and you're now banging on about Sultana. Anyway, that's it from me you fruit loop, you're on ignore. Somebody let me know if he dies in a horrible way so that I can celebrate. 

[Captain Turdseye]

I’d rather you kept replying, to be honest. 
 

Forum is dead. This is all I’ve got to wank over. 

[Jairzinho]

Unity.

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Captain Turdseye said:

 

Forum is dead.

Yeah, there's a reason for this. 

[Bjornebye]

Nothing like Christmas spirit eh. 

[Gnasher]

29 minutes ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

You're a nobody; there's no chance you could upset me. I'd happily see your throat slit and wouldn't raise an eyebrow. You're now trying to deflect that you can't count, that you were completely wrong - again - and you're now banging on about Sultana. Anyway, that's it from me you fruit loop, you're on ignore. Somebody let me know if he dies in a horrible way so that I can celebrate. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Section_31]

Gnasher is starting to remind me of Darren Grimes posting pictures of Sue Grey on a karaoke machine pre pandemic with a 'world exclusive' watermark on it, thinking he's found a silver bullet while everyone else is sat there thinking what the fuck.

[Gnasher]

22 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Gnasher is starting to remind me of Darren Grimes posting pictures of Sue Grey on a karaoke machine pre pandemic with a 'world exclusive' watermark on it, thinking he's found a silver bullet while everyone else is sat there thinking what the fuck.

 

Here comes the Starmanistas.

[Gnasher]

25 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

Gnasher is starting to remind me of Darren Grimes posting pictures of Sue Grey on a karaoke machine pre pandemic with a 'world exclusive' watermark on it, thinking he's found a silver bullet while everyone else is sat there thinking what the fuck.

 

Yet weren't you the poster who found some nonsense of a random Squakbox site mildly critical of Keir Starmer and equated to the level of criticism endured by Jeremy Corbyn from the national press?

[cloggypop]

1 hour ago, Numero Veinticinco said:

 

You're a nobody; there's no chance you could upset me. I'd happily see your throat slit and wouldn't raise an eyebrow. You're now trying to deflect that you can't count, that you were completely wrong - again - and you're now banging on about Sultana. Anyway, that's it from me you fruit loop, you're on ignore. Somebody let me know if he dies in a horrible way so that I can celebrate. 

 

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