Tory Cabinet Thread

[Skidfingers McGonical]

17 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Of course the working class woman is the one who has to grovel.

 

How is she grovelling? 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, PestiRed said:

It’s a coded message to the Tory Faithful that she’s up for Golden Gating

Every day's a schoolday around here.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Golden Gate Bridge

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

43 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

How is she grovelling? 

She's not in that quote. She is in the forced apology for calling racist, misogynistic, homophobic Etonian scum what they are.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

17 hours ago, Jordy Brouwer said:

No just about 4 guardian articles promoting it and the concept. 

 

 

Even from the link you shared, it's clear that nobody is pretending that "there is no downside". (The only economic or political fantasists I have ever heard use that phrase are the Brexit campaigners of 2016.) It's also clear that there is plenty of evidence, including real-world examples, to support their argument.

 

The opposite of the proposed change is the status quo: millions of people struggling to make ends meet because they are unemployed or underemployed; millions of people working themselves into an early grave through too much stress and graft; all the advantages of technological advances accruing to the employers and none to the workers. Do you really want to defend that? Do you really want to argue that there's no downside to it? That it's the best we can hope for? That it's wrong to even question whether things can be done more efficiently, equitably and sustainably?

 

I've not read the book either, but I'm certainly not going to dismiss it out of hand.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

33 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

She's not in that quote. She is in the forced apology for calling racist, misogynistic, homophobic Etonian scum what they are.

Not all of them (cabinet probably a resounding yes) are and that’s the issue as it’s labelled all as scum, same way when Labour/left leaning supporters react when the left is called anti-Semitic.
 

It’s tarring all with the same brush. She said something that she’s been held accountable for and she’s holding herself accountable.
 

She is also pushing back on to the Tories, about them not being held accountable for their words and actions. 
 

She’s not grovelling at all. She is, after some reflection, doing the right thing. 

[Bjornebye]

11 minutes ago, Skidfingers McGonical said:

Not all of them (cabinet probably a resounding yes) are and that’s the issue as it’s labelled all as scum, same way when Labour/left leaning supporters react when the left is called anti-Semitic.
 

It’s tarring all with the same brush. She said something that she’s been held accountable for and she’s holding herself accountable.
 

She is also pushing back on to the Tories, about them not being held accountable for their words and actions. 
 

She’s not grovelling at all. She is, after some reflection, doing the right thing. 

I agree she's doing the right thing and it's highlighting the tory hypocrisy at the same time but I'm sorry, Tories are scum by association. Fuck them. 

 

 

 

 

[halewood pete]

[halewood pete]

[Arniepie]

I'm.presumimg the gmnt have been queuing up to condemn the threats raynor has been getting?

 

[Arniepie]

Boris johnson urging world leaders to keep to their promises.

I'm genuinely intrigued how he actually sleeps at night.

Do they teach that shit at eton?

[sir roger]

The  hypocrisy of the one-sided reporting over the nasty French fishing authorities , when we would never even dream of being arseholes over any Brexit deals.

[Marko121]

9 hours ago, sir roger said:

The  hypocrisy of the one-sided reporting over the nasty French fishing authorities , when we would never even dream of being arseholes over any Brexit deals.

We would only be arseholes in a “ specific and limited way” remember 

[Gnasher]

9 hours ago, sir roger said:

The  hypocrisy of the one-sided reporting over the nasty French fishing authorities , when we would never even dream of being arseholes over any Brexit deals.

To blame everything on the Britain because of our withdrawal from the EU is imo simplistic.

 

Johnson, Macron and Vonn der Leyen are all heads of very rich right wing capitalist political organisations, they care very little for people but more for playing politics. They should all be treated with derision and they should all be rejected when the opportunity arises.

 

A lot of the right wing French politicians are now tub thumping as an election is looming. 

 

 

[sir roger]

I am not talking about the whole Brexit thing , just pointing out every article reluctantly mentions the very low levels of agreed fishing permits , but never seem to even suggest the French may have a point , and that we ( and particularly Jersey ) may well be playing silly buggers with them. 

 

With the NI debacle and the constant sludge coming from Frost , I am surprised Europe haven't been more antagonistic to be honest.

[Gnasher]

39 minutes ago, sir roger said:

I am not talking about the whole Brexit thing , just pointing out every article reluctantly mentions the very low levels of agreed fishing permits , but never seem to even suggest the French may have a point , and that we ( and particularly Jersey ) may well be playing silly buggers with them. 

 

With the NI debacle and the constant sludge coming from Frost , I am surprised Europe haven't been more antagonistic to be honest.

 

Yeah I see what you mean, sadly it appears we're going to see a lot more of this dick waving nonsense, especially when our election comes near.

[Bruce Spanner]

But, yeah, of course that’s the right course of action, he’s one of us…

 

Go and find him innocent, Jacob, he seems dreadfully upset at the nasty words for doing what everyone of us would in those circumstances.

 

’Boris Johnson will back an unprecedented bid to overthrow an independent inquiry that found the former cabinet minister Owen Paterson committed an “egregious” breach of lobbying rules.

 

Tory MPs will be instructed by party whips on Wednesday to avoid imposing an immediate 30-day suspension on their colleague by backing a motion that argues the initial probe by the parliamentary standards commissioner was flawed. Instead, a new committee would be set up to review the evidence.’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/02/tories-set-to-try-to-overturn-findings-of-owen-paterson-lobbying-inquiry

[Bjornebye]

20 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

But, yeah, of course that’s the right course of action, he’s one of us…

 

Go and find him innocent, Jacob, he seems dreadfully upset at the nasty words for doing what everyone of us would in those circumstances.

 

’Boris Johnson will back an unprecedented bid to overthrow an independent inquiry that found the former cabinet minister Owen Paterson committed an “egregious” breach of lobbying rules.

 

Tory MPs will be instructed by party whips on Wednesday to avoid imposing an immediate 30-day suspension on their colleague by backing a motion that argues the initial probe by the parliamentary standards commissioner was flawed. Instead, a new committee would be set up to review the evidence.’

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/nov/02/tories-set-to-try-to-overturn-findings-of-owen-paterson-lobbying-inquiry

Completely normal fuck everyone who questions our behaviour .

 

Another slap in the face of everyone else 

[sir roger]

Not just opposing this decision now , looking to disband the committee and set up one of their own composition.

[Bruce Spanner]

15 minutes ago, sir roger said:

Not just opposing this decision now , looking to disband the committee and set up one of their own composition.

 

Honestly, Rog.

 

The system has been rigged towards objectivity, truth and accountability for far too long, I'm sure you'll agree?

 

Anyhows, these are the alternative systems proposed, seems fair...

 

'The Leadsom amendment: Sky’s Sam Coates says former Tory Cabinet Minister Andrea Leadsom has put forward an amendment to today’s Paterson motion that “notes the potential defects in the standards system and therefore declines to consider the report” — i.e. overturning any sanction. The Tories have a working majority of 79 so can do this. But the amendment goes further. Hope and Tominey say it will seek to establish a new committee of nine MPs tasked with redrawing MPs’ standards rules. The Times‘ Henry Zeffman says the committee would have eight members — four Tory, four from opposition parties — and be chaired by Tory grandee John Whittingdale. In other words, it would have a Conservative majority and look a lot like a total sham that allows the governing party to pardon Paterson and rig the system in its favor. The Guardian’s Aubrey Allegretti says there is a second proposed amendment from Tory MP Julian Lewis calling for Paterson’s punishment to be quashed on compassionate grounds.

[Bjornebye]

 

Then

 

 

Now

 

 

 

Completely shameless. 

 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Arniepie]

24 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

Didnt know jeremy beadle was still around?

 

[Arniepie]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Completely normal fuck everyone who questions our behaviour .

 

Another slap in the face of everyone else 

We genuinely like in some banana republic where democracy is a meaningless word.

He has been doing it since he got in.

Remember him trying to ban 'critical 'journalists?

And the issue of the Russian oligarch

They simply do what they want.

[Bjornebye]

19 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

We genuinely like in some banana republic where democracy is a meaningless word.

He has been doing it since he got in.

Remember him trying to ban 'critical 'journalists?

And the issue of the Russian oligarch

They simply do what they want.

Yeah and now asking them a difficult question on twitter is abhorrent in the wake of one of them getting stabbed by a lunatic. The fact that Priti Patel is smirking her fat arse around still in a job tells you all you need to know. 

[Anubis]

In happier news the Telegraph is reporting that our marines wiped out US forces in record time in a training exercise in California, The Americans were begging for a 'reset' a few days in.

 

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