Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Hank Moody said:

I have to neg that, it's pretty much laced with the view that it's anti-semitic. A low blow. 

 

Yep, just a total coincidence that of all the places he could be this week, he chose Berger's constituency. Just like it was a total coincidence that when he was scouting round for a place to stand in 2005, he chose Oona King's constituency.

[RobbieOR]

Soubray was praising the coalition and Osbourne earlier. And those defectors from Labour are happy to welcome the likes of her. You couldn't make it up really.  

[Numero Veinticinco]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Yep, just a total coincidence that of all the places he could be this week, he chose Berger's constituency. Just like it was a total coincidence that when he was scouting round for a place to stand in 2005, he chose Oona King's constituency.

Because he hates Jews?

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, Hank Moody said:

Because he hates Jews?

 

You're free to draw your own conclusion. I drew mine a long time ago from the disgusting campaign he ran against King.

[Section_31]

What's this horseshit? Haven't seen this many dodgy cards played since my cousin 'taught' me to play poker and took all my Easter eggs with a 'jamaican royal flush.'

[Carvalho Diablo]

12 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

The shameless careerism of giving up a career in a political party to, in all probability, lose your seat at the next election.

Here's hoping.

[Carvalho Diablo]

11 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

That they were going to lose anyway. It's not like any of these clowns were in the mix for a top job in politics. 

 

Doesn't Umuna get nine grand an hour for consultancy work for Heinz baked beans or some shit?

Something like that. I must become more  observant though, I can't ever remember noticing anywhere on the ballot paper stating that I could be voting for a part time Member of Parliament. Paid on a pro rata basis I'm sure.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I'm no real fan of Galloway. But, if the allegations of inappropriate conduct during the election campaign against Oona King come from King herself, in the interests of fairness it should be noted that Galloway successfully sued her twice for defaming (a.k.a. lying about) him. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, Nelly-Torres said:

I'm no real fan of Galloway. But, if the allegations of inappropriate conduct during the election campaign against Oona King come from King herself, in the interests of fairness it should be noted that Galloway successfully sued her twice for defaming (a.k.a. lying about) him. 

No. Sorry. I made my mind up.

[SasaS]

19 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

It'd be interesting to know how those handful of MPs could get 14% of the vote. 

 

Maybe by one in seven people polled saying they would vote for them?

[ZonkoVille77]

5 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

I'm no real fan of Galloway. But, if the allegations of inappropriate conduct during the election campaign against Oona King come from King herself, in the interests of fairness it should be noted that Galloway successfully sued her twice for defaming (a.k.a. lying about) him. 

 

Pssssttt. Stop it. It doesn't fit in with reality.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Just now, SasaS said:

 

Maybe by one in seven people polled saying they would vote for them?

Yes, but that's not interesting to me. I know how they get their polling votes. Getting 14% of the votes for 11 MPs out of 650 would be... impressive. 

[Strontium]

2 minutes ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

Pssssttt. Stop it. It doesn't fit in with reality.

 

I don't deny that she settled out of court after making claims that could not be substantiated about his personal life.

 

This is quite separate from the facts on the ground about Respect's campaign against her.

[ZonkoVille77]

 

[The Woolster]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

YouGov polls have form for artificially boosting the Tories. 

 

I doubt there's a single constituency  (except maybe the one where wotsername, Rico's mate, sits) that would return any of these twerps.

 

Can't speak about the others, but I used to live in Streatham and Umunna was a pretty good MP and popular, I think he could have a decent chance of winning his seat

[ZonkoVille77]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

I don't deny that she settled out of court after making claims that could not be substantiated about his personal life.

 

This is quite separate from the facts on the ground about Respect's campaign against her.

 

This could read easily as telling lies.

 

I'm sure there weren't niceties on either side, as there never are during elections. People love to hate Galloway and anyone running against him will be caught up in his hurricane-like orations, leading to a greater need to defeat him - by whatever means. 

 

 

[Strontium]

1 minute ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

This could read easily as telling lies.

 

Not really. Something can be 100% true, but if it can't be substantiated, you still run the risk of being sued for libel.

 

I look forward to hearing Oona speak at length about it when Galloway is no more, as she has pledged to do.

[SasaS]

4 minutes ago, Hank Moody said:

Yes, but that's not interesting to me. I know how they get their polling votes. Getting 14% of the votes for 11 MPs out of 650 would be... impressive. 

 

Indeed. Well, they may form a political party and field candidates in most constituencies by the time elections are held. The number is interesting because it's reflective of how many people may react positively to a group splitting from a major party, at least at first. The numbers usually don't hold for very long in absence of a coherent political program, but it's certainly and interesting indicator.

[ZonkoVille77]

1 minute ago, Strontium Dog said:

I look forward to hearing Oona speak at length about it when Galloway is no more, as she has pledged to do.

 

Aye. It will all come out in the wash.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

44 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

You are utterly clueless.

 

Galloway is what he is. If it doesn't bother you, fine, but don't deny it.

So... not going to answer even one of the six straight questions about your daft post?

[Anubis]

33 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

That they were going to lose anyway. It's not like any of these clowns were in the mix for a top job in politics. 

 

Doesn't Umuna get nine grand an hour for consultancy work for Heinz baked beans or some shit?

 

So the Independent Group are pro-beans on a full English. They will never get my vote. Deviants.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1 minute ago, ZonkoVille77 said:

 

This could read easily as telling lies.

 

I'm sure there weren't niceties on either side, as there never are during elections. People love to hate Galloway and anyone running against him will be caught up in his hurricane-like orations, leading to a greater need to defeat him - by whatever means. 

 

 

He's a brash, loud mouthed, sensationalist bully (although I do advocate his stance on Palestinian rights). But, that doesn't make him what is being insinuated. 

 

Just like an allegation doesn't make a "fact on the ground." 

 

If the evidence is out there, it's weird that he again successfully sued in the infamous "Georgie Galloway" case. 

 

I'm just dealing in facts here...

[The Guest]

1 hour ago, Sugar Ape said:

 

I know you can’t force May to have one. If more Tories defect though then I think it’s a very real possibility that she will call one. It’ll force her hand, she can’t get anything through parliament as it is. Losing the fragile majority she’s got with the DUP may mean she’s got little option but to call it.

 

It’ll also be interesting to see what the polling does now some Tories have moved over. Will they take any of the Tory vote share with them?

It’s going to be interesting to see isn’t it.  The Labour vote seem to be fully on to that type of politics these days.  You can’t be all things to all people.  After Blair and the 2010 Lib Dem’s leading with left wing policies in their manifesto only to enable the tories you would think that type of politics wouldn’t stand a chance again.  The thing that this party have got in common is that they are all economically right wing.  The votes labour would lose due to Corbyn being a socialist and putting forward a socialist manifesto he would lose to the tories anyway.

 

From this you would expect their votes to come from the Lib Dem’s and the tories but it remains to be seen.  I expect they will target the labour vote though and go for that tactic of promising things like reduced tuition fees.  Essentially their minimum objective is to stop a socialist govt which shows up what a disgrace it was that these cunts were actually representing the Labour Party.

 

The problem for them is that it isn’t 2010 and they aren’t going to get that swing of young people they got from New Labours decade of right wing views and policies.

[Numero Veinticinco]

19 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

 

Not really. Something can be 100% true, but if it can't be substantiated, you still run the risk of being sued for libel.

 

I look forward to hearing Oona speak at length about it when Galloway is no more, as she has pledged to do.

And I’m sure you’ll look at the claims, that are made after his death so that he can defend himself against them, critically and fairly rather than take the word of someone who waited until the person couldn’t defend themselves and believe every word of it because you want to. 

[Red Phoenix]

Save the poor Guardian community!