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Scottish Independence, yay or nay?

Baltar

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Tom R
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I was up in Aberdeen yesterday and I had good chats with some ring leaders on both sides.   The No crowd's arguments were based on rational, logical economic and social factors, but from the people

Bobby Hundreds
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You know what else would be a good laugh. Putting the royal family, the aristocracy, the lords, the career politicians, the bankers, doing things you don't want to do all onto a giant rocket ship and

Fugitive
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You have Oil The locals are all a bit mental You hold WMD's You have an Opium problem   America will be invading you as soon as you vote yes.

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Hand it over, Westminster.

 

https://news.stv.tv/scotland/support-for-scottish-independence-rises-to-56-after-supreme-court-ruling-stv-poll?amp
 

More than half of Scottish voters intend to vote for independence, according to a new poll for STV News.


Ipsos’ Scottish Political Monitor, run in partnership with STV News, finds support for independence has risen by six points since the last survey in May. 

 

Based on the voting intentions in the poll, the SNP would win 58 seats at the next UK general election. Scottish Labour would win one seat, while none of the other parties would win any seats in the House of Commons.

 

Among those with a voting intention and very likely to vote, 56% say they would vote Yes in an immediate referendum while 44% say they would vote No.

 

Excluding undecideds, the Scottish Political Monitor suggests the future of an independent Scotland would be sealed if another referendum was held now.

 

It comes after the Supreme Court ruled last month that the Scottish Parliament does not have the power to hold an independence referendum.

 

The Scottish Government had argued that Holyrood should be able to bring forward legislation allowing a vote to be held in October 2023. 


However, the UK Government made the case that would be outside the legislative competence of the Scottish Parliament.

 

The public remain divided on the best time to hold another referendum – 35% think there should be one before the end of 2023, while 34% think it should be later than this (17% between 2024 and 2026, and 17% later than 2026).

 

The proportion saying there should never be another referendum is down five points since May, at 26%.

 

Nicola Sturgeon remains the most popular of the Scottish party leaders, with over half (52%) holding a favourable view of the First Minister.

 

However, net satisfaction with her performance (the proportion satisfied minus the proportion dissatisfied) has fallen slightly, from +12 in May 2022 to +9.


Labour leader Anas Sarwar’s ratings have fallen – some 40% are satisfied with his performance as Scottish Labour leader, while 37% are dissatisfied and 23% don’t know enough to rate him.

 

Dissatisfaction with Sir Keir Starmer has increased – 37% are satisfied with his performance as leader of the UK Labour Party, while 50% are dissatisfied. His net satisfaction has fallen from -2 in May to -13now.

 

Rishi Sunak receives a negative net satisfaction rating from Scots, of -21, with 32% satisfied and 53% dissatisfied with his performance as Prime Minister. 

 

Although his overall rating is low, Sunak nonetheless appears to fare comparatively better among the Scottish public than former PM Boris Johnson, who received a -71 net satisfaction rating in Ipsos’ May poll.

 

Fears for the NHS

The NHS was found to be the biggest issue facing Scotland today, with 41% of Scots worried about the state of Scotland’s healthcare; an increase of 14 percentage points since May.

 

Inflation and the rising cost of living came in second at 28% – down by 2 percentage points in May – followed by education (23%) and Scottish independence (23%). 

 

The SNP remain the dominant party in Scotland – 51% of those likely to vote say they would vote for them in an immediate General Election. Labour remains in second place on vote share, at 25%, while the Conservatives have slipped further to 13%.

 

Treating the next election as a de facto referendum on independence appears unlikely to dent the SNP’s vote share: indeed, 53% of those likely to vote say they would vote SNP in this situation. 

 

With a further 2% saying they would vote for the Scottish Green Party, this would take the vote share for pro-independence parties to 55%


Emily Gray, managing director of Ipsos in Scotland said: “These new results from Ipsos and STV News show an increase in both support for independence and support for the SNP. Whether this is a temporary ‘bounce’ in the wake of the recent Supreme Court judgement or a longer-lasting trend remains to be seen.

“Meanwhile, with the judgement narrowing the legal pathways to a second referendum, the SNP is considering treating the next General Election as a de facto referendum on independence. This is a high-risk strategy for the party, who secured 45% of the vote in 2019. 

“However, the indication from this poll is that, at this stage at least, this is not harming their electoral chances. 

“At the same time, there are some indications that wider public ratings of the SNP have slipped. While the SNP remains comparatively more trusted than other parties, trust in their ability to manage a range of crucial issues – including the NHS and the economy – has fallen significantly over the last 18 months.”

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3 minutes ago, Mook said:

The good thing about the Clockwork Orange is it's highly unlikely you'll get lost.

 

The new York subway is utterly fucked up. Like American football, they seem to revel in making things more difficult than they need to be.

 

You'd think nothing could he simpler than putting a destination on the front of the train.

 

Alas no. 

 

You need the one to the 10 on the yellow line midtown. Not uptown and certainly not downtown on the orange. And change at Penn Street. Everyone changes at Penn Street. My Mrs could figure it out but my dyslexia was off the scale. All I wanted was a train that said Hunts Cross.

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