Useless sacked

[ngogswilly]

Good post, mate, and I agree with a lot of points.

 

The thing is that football is more accessible than ever before because of the internet. If you've got insomnia at three in the morning, you can log on and get a stream for whatever the hell game you like. In that way, spotting decent players and saying 'he'd fit in playing for so and so in whatever position' has become a lot easier and some of the fan's opinions will be more than valid on matters like that.

 

I'd also suggest that there are times when the fans knowledge of the global game and tactical trends exceeds that of a manager. When was the last time Martin O'Neill signed a player from outside the British Isles, for instance? I think the the ability to exploit this market is what separates a good manager from an okay one because to be at the top of your game in this capacity, to be honest, I think you have to be a bit of an anorak with no time for anything else. I remember an interview Bob Wilson gave on Arsene Wenger's obsession for the game when he said he came back from the Indian subcontinent on some goodwill charity thing, and he recommended some young Bangladeshi goalkeeper around 17/18 years old and Wilson was surprised when Wenger had already heard of the lad and could reel off a couple of his strengths and weaknesses.

 

I think that's why it's so frustrating when you see somebody like Hodgson spunk a couple of quid on garbage like Poulsen and Konchesky, because the world and his wife know how it will end up.

 

What I mean in my previous post, it's the unseen stuff were the fan would struggle. While they may be able to give a current manager a run for their money in analysing tactics and players, it's dealing with the different characters in the squad and getting the most out of a training session that would flummox them. Pretty much the only way to get around that- if the fan was serious enough- would be to start at the very bottom- scooping up shit from a cabbage patch of a pitch, putting cones out in the freezing cold, helping kids put their bibs on the right way around- and then work their way up. It's pretty much the only way, as ex-players have obviously been around enough dressing rooms and been involved in enough training sessions over their career to gain even the most basic of knowledge on that front.

 

Imagine if Tony Fernandes took leave of his senses and decided to give the QPR job to a fan he just bumped in to walking around Shepherds Bush? Them walking into that dressing room would just be like feeding a Christian to the lions. Where would the respect come from? They may be able to talk the hind legs off a donkey when it comes to 4-3-3, but they'd be on a hiding to nothing.

 

You're 100% right, people who genuinely believe they could do better just aren't living in the real world and accounting for all the factors you've highlighted.

 

I always think of it in the sense that at the end of the day, managers are human beings. Human beings have huge flaws and strengths often in equal measure.

 

It still didn't help me sleep any better though when Hodgson was talking up Konchesky.

[G Richards]

Nice goal for Barcelona that time.

[Tj hooker]

Got a feeling Redknapp played a blinder here by sending his agent to Ukraine, thus making QPR shit themselves.

 

Still, couldn't happen to a more useless bloke

 

Thats exactly what i thought for someone who was supposed to be in the Ukraine his Agent soon got back to London pretty damm sharpish makes you think did he ever go

[Code]

What the fuck are QPR playing at?

 

I had McDermott as first manager sacked, useless feckers.

 

After saying no one first, did I not say Hughes when you questioned my initial answer?

[lifetime fan]

After saying no one first, did I not say Hughes when you questioned my initial answer?

 

 

I can't remember for sure Frode but think you did.

 

No way was we getting to Christmas without a sacking.

[kalasoma]

You know what would be funny? If Leeds binned off Warnock and replaced him with Hughes. Again.

[Anubis]

Robbie Savage went a bit mental in defence of Hughes on 5 Live tonight, banging on about how City's set up is all down to Hughes and how they'd have won the league under him, and how QPR owed their Premiership survival to him (even when it was pointed out they had to rely on the results of others on the final day, and that they'd been 14th when Warnock was sacked). He was also banging on about how Hughes hadn't lost the dressing room.

 

It was getting a bit embarrassing. I assume the two are mates.

[kalasoma]

Robbie Savage went a bit mental in defence of Hughes on 5 Live tonight, banging on about how City's set up is all down to Hughes and how they'd have won the league under him, and how QPR owed their Premiership survival to him (even when it was pointed out they had to rely on the results of others on the final day, and that they'd been 14th when Warnock was sacked). He was also banging on about how Hughes hadn't lost the dressing room.

 

It was getting a bit embarrassing. I assume the two are mates.

 

That's funny because he also seems mate-y with Mancini and sticks up for him too. I suppose Savage played for Hughes while he was at Blackburn? Or they played together for Wales under Toshack? Not sure.

[fowler9]

That's funny because he also seems mate-y with Mancini and sticks up for him too. I suppose Savage played for Hughes while he was at Blackburn? Or they played together for Wales under Toshack? Not sure.

 

he played with and was managed by Hughes with Wales and Hughes also signed him for Blackburn

 

 

I think he talks sense normally does Savage but this time his judgement has been well clouded by friendship

[Thants]

I had Di Matteo in the sack race, I thank you. My mate, who I had the bet with (alas it want a bookie) had Hughes. Result.

[Philbert]

Yep, it's called the Peter Reid effect.

 

Ah....Peter Reid, him of the 'Shouty, Clappy, Sweary' school of football management, the closest thing to Mike Basset in my opinion.

 

Now then....who else falls into this category - names please. Thank you.

[Redder Lurtz]

he played with and was managed by Hughes with Wales and Hughes also signed him for Blackburn

 

 

I think he talks sense normally does Savage but this time his judgement has been well clouded by friendship

 

Haha! You nearly had me there. Good one.

[WhiskeyJar]

Ah....Peter Reid, him of the 'Shouty, Clappy, Sweary' school of football management, the closest thing to Mike Basset in my opinion.

 

Now then....who else falls into this category - names please. Thank you.

 

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[boomer39]

he played with and was managed by Hughes with Wales and Hughes also signed him for Blackburn

 

 

I think he talks sense normally does Savage but this time his judgement has been well clouded by friendship[/quote

talks normally??? as effin useless as the rest of them....talks sh1t