Israel - A Rant

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

They’re murderous cunts. They’re like violent gangsters. Using similar logic and “morals” that Pablo Escobar used when bombing the Avianca flight which he falsely believed that Gaviria had boarded. 
 

Just as long as the target is killed, anyone else caught up in the bloodthirsty violence doesn’t matter. Fuck them. 
 

Despite the attempts to glamorise him, Escobar was a sociopathic, horrible violent cunt. Just like the IDF are. 

[ZonkoVille77]

They won't stop until they've taken the entire area, no matter how many are killed. 

 

Cheers,  Britain. 

Cheers,  America.

[Gnasher]

Theirs some bad scenes from Gaza shown on twitter tonight. I hope they're fake but unfortunately I think they are genuine. I won't show them here but they make a mockery of that IDF statement above. Instead here's the charming Mark Regev. getting roasted by Matt Frei. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Planet Origi]

10 hours ago, TD_LFC said:

 

The conflict in Gaza is being carried out by two aggressors (and those who support them while not playing an active part) playing piggy in the middle with the lives of millions of innocent people who just want to get on with their lives, of which one subset of those are, granted, being killed in disproportionally higher numbers than the other.

 

Allowing pro-Israeli, or pro- Palestinian, support, while right intentioned by many, doesn't impact the aggressors but does impact the people in the middle so rather than a sporting institution (whoever they may be) trying to tread a difficult line that they'll never find the balance for it's easier (whether you find it morally right or otherwise) to excuse themselves from that attempt.

 

Russia and Ukraine is a conflict that is far more easily defined with one aggressor and one 'victim' (for want of a better word), and is far easier to delineate.

 

 

Thanks.

This only really makes sense if you believe the conflict only began on 7th October.

If you look at it in its historical context, Israel is quite clearly the aggressor. Moreover, it has not only invaded Palestine in the way Russia has Ukraine, it has on top of that been committing genocide and ethnic cleansing since it's inception against the Palestinian people. 

In the face of that onslaught, the Palestinians surely have a right to resist, and that can not in any way be painted as them being a co-aggressor.

 

[Clem H Fandango]

To quote the great Al Murray;

 

I've got neighbours at the end of my road that i don't like, doesn't mean i am going to go out and buy a tank. Of course once you own a tank, you have to use it.

[TD_LFC]

36 minutes ago, Planet Origi said:

Thanks.

This only really makes sense if you believe the conflict only began on 7th October.

If you look at it in its historical context, Israel is quite clearly the aggressor. Moreover, it has not only invaded Palestine in the way Russia has Ukraine, it has on top of that been committing genocide and ethnic cleansing since it's inception against the Palestinian people. 

In the face of that onslaught, the Palestinians surely have a right to resist, and that can not in any way be painted as them being a co-aggressor.

 

 

Israeli Government and it's supporters - Aggressor

 

 

Innocent Jews and Palestinians - not Aggressors

 

 

Hamas and it's supporters - Aggressor

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Daily Mail here, with a genuine error of not understanding what quotation marks are meant to signify. 
 

Definitely an error. Not a deliberate misinterpretation/invention of what her sign said. 

[Arniepie]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

 

Saw it. It's grim. 

It was supposed to be a safe route and they literally just wiped everyone out.

The road was littered with bodies

Well done rishi lad

[Section_31]

I miss the 90s.

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

6 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

I miss the 90s.

 

 

Burn that jug eared crisp thief commie at the stake!

[Planet Origi]

36 minutes ago, TD_LFC said:

 

Israeli Government and it's supporters - Aggressor

 

 

Innocent Jews and Palestinians - not Aggressors

 

 

Hamas and it's supporters - Aggressor

That's a bit simplistic mate. That kind of equivocation between the two sides is what is being used as justification for the massacre that is taking place.

[Carradona]

2 hours ago, Nelly-Szoboszlai said:

They’re murderous cunts. They’re like violent gangsters. Using similar logic and “morals” that Pablo Escobar used when bombing the Avianca flight which he falsely believed that Gaviria had boarded. 
 

Just as long as the target is killed, anyone else caught up in the bloodthirsty violence doesn’t matter. Fuck them. 
 

Despite the attempts to glamorise him, Escobar was a sociopathic, horrible violent cunt. Just like the IDF are. 

Adolf Netanyahu is purposely murdering innocent Palestinians, it's so obvious at this stage.  His target is an entire race yet his gobshite ally minions think it's only about Hamas. He needs strung up as soon as possible. 

[TD_LFC]

1 minute ago, Carradona said:

Adolf Netanyahu is purposely murdering innocent Palestinians, it's so obvious at this stage.  His target is an entire race yet his gobshite ally minions think it's only about Hamas. He needs strung up as soon as possible. 

 

He has the permission, or blind eye, he's always wanted.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The ambulance airstrike seemed to have caused minimal surrounding damage. So, I think that removes one leg of the evidence that the earlier Al Ahli hospital attack wasn’t Israel, as it appears that Isreal have the capability to use weapons in air strikes that cause minimal surrounding damage. 

[polymerpunkah]

 

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The US has confirmed for the first time that it has been flying unarmed surveillance drones over Gaza.

Pentagon spokesman Brig Gen Pat Ryder said the drones were operating in "support of hostage recovery efforts".

"These UAV flights began after the Oct 7 attack by Hamas on Israel," he said in a brief statement.

The acknowledgement comes after reporters spotted unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) on flight-tracking websites.

"The US is conducting unarmed UAV flights over Gaza, as well as providing advice and assistance to support our Israeli partner as they work on their hostage recovery efforts," the Pentagon's statement on Friday said.

The confirmation comes after reporters spotted MQ-9 Reapers, usually operated by American special forces, circling Gaza on Flightradar24, a publicly available flight-tracking website.

 

Reaper drones have previously been used to conduct airstrikes in Afghanistan, but are primarily used as surveillance aircraft because of their ability to "loiter" above an area for more than 20 hours at a time.

Unnamed US military officials told the New York Times that the drones were not helping co-ordinate Israeli military action in and around Gaza. Officials told the newspaper that information related to hostage recovery was being passed on to the Israelis.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm having a little trouble figuring out how they distinguish between "recovering hostages" and "military action" given that the latter is a necessary component of the former.

 

 

[Kevin D]

 

[Planet Origi]

5 minutes ago, polymerpunkah said:

 

 

I'm having a little trouble figuring out how they distinguish between "recovering hostages" and "military action" given that the latter is a necessary component of the former.

 

 

The US and Israeli state apparatus is a stain on human civilisation. 

[Jurgen Knows]

Mainz have sacked Anwar El Ghazi for his support of Palestine.

 

 

[Jurgen Knows]

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[Gnasher]

 

 

 

 

[A Red]

On 02/11/2023 at 13:09, etho said:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/netanyahu-israel-gaza-hamas-1.7010035

 

https://www.wionews.com/world/explained-how-netanyahu-helped-grow-hamas-which-became-the-frankensteins-monster-for-him-651336

 

This one is an Israeli newspaper

 

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2023-10-20/ty-article-opinion/.premium/a-brief-history-of-the-netanyahu-hamas-alliance/0000018b-47d9-d242-abef-57ff1be90000

 

And so is this one

 

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

 

There are lots of other sources and direct quotes from him but you know how to Google.

 

It sounds like a conspiracy theory because it's so fucking mental. But nope, completely true 

Thanks for that, sorry for the delay in replying.

 

I've had a read through those links and get from it, if true, that Hamas is the ideal enemy for Netanyahu. What I don't get is why? As you say its batshit mental. Why wouldn't Israel want a 2 state solution? Why would they (Netanyahu) want to wipe out 2.3 million people? 

 

It probably helps Netanyahu stay in power by making sure there is the clear and present danger of a strong enemy (Hamas) and as a result he doesn't want 2 peaceful states. That obviously makes him a cunt, but a stupid one. Surely the best way to retain power is to be the hero that creates peace. I can kind of see now why he doesn't want 2 states.

 

As for wiping out 2 million people, I don't understand it at all, putting aside how mental it is, where the benefit can be for Netanyahu or Israel? There is none. Do people on here really believe he is up there with Hitler and is making a genuine attempt to wipe out a group of 2 million people for ideological reasons? Is it just Palestinians or Arabs as a whole? Where does he stop? Perhaps I am naïve for not believing someone could want to do that

 

The US needs to pull the plug on Netanyahu.

 

 

[Carradona]

36 minutes ago, A Red said:

Thanks for that, sorry for the delay in replying.

 

I've had a read through those links and get from it, if true, that Hamas is the ideal enemy for Netanyahu. What I don't get is why? As you say its batshit mental. Why wouldn't Israel want a 2 state solution? Why would they (Netanyahu) want to wipe out 2.3 million people? 

 

It probably helps Netanyahu stay in power by making sure there is the clear and present danger of a strong enemy (Hamas) and as a result he doesn't want 2 peaceful states. That obviously makes him a cunt, but a stupid one. Surely the best way to retain power is to be the hero that creates peace. I can kind of see now why he doesn't want 2 states.

 

As for wiping out 2 million people, I don't understand it at all, putting aside how mental it is, where the benefit can be for Netanyahu or Israel? There is none. Do people on here really believe he is up there with Hitler and is making a genuine attempt to wipe out a group of 2 million people for ideological reasons? Is it just Palestinians or Arabs as a whole? Where does he stop? Perhaps I am naïve for not believing someone could want to do that

 

The US needs to pull the plug on Netanyahu.

 

 

Yes, you're naive. We've seen it in the past and we're seeing it now. He's a racist twat with the same intentions as Hitler but hopefully he'll be stopped before it gets to that tragic scale.

[Red Shift]

Asset stripping.

Europe has no gas. Winter is fast approaching. Gaza’s gas field is within their 22 km territorial waters. Israel wants to be a big player. Arab states joining BRICS early 2024. Israel moves now. Humanity can’t get in the way of capitalist treasure.

[Arniepie]

1 hour ago, A Red said:

Thanks for that, sorry for the delay in replying.

 

I've had a read through those links and get from it, if true, that Hamas is the ideal enemy for Netanyahu. What I don't get is why? As you say its batshit mental. Why wouldn't Israel want a 2 state solution? Why would they (Netanyahu) want to wipe out 2.3 million people? 

 

It probably helps Netanyahu stay in power by making sure there is the clear and present danger of a strong enemy (Hamas) and as a result he doesn't want 2 peaceful states. That obviously makes him a cunt, but a stupid one. Surely the best way to retain power is to be the hero that creates peace. I can kind of see now why he doesn't want 2 states.

 

As for wiping out 2 million people, I don't understand it at all, putting aside how mental it is, where the benefit can be for Netanyahu or Israel? There is none. Do people on here really believe he is up there with Hitler and is making a genuine attempt to wipe out a group of 2 million people for ideological reasons? Is it just Palestinians or Arabs as a whole? Where does he stop? Perhaps I am naïve for not believing someone could want to do that

 

The US needs to pull the plug on Netanyahu.

 

 

i stand to be corrected, but from what I gather, The PLO Were prepared to negotiate for a 2 state solution but netanyahu,for whatever reason,doesnt want this, so allowed a more radical group to develop, thus justifying his hard-line stance.

[Arniepie]

sunak thinks a war demanding a ceasfire, at the time of year when we remember a ceasefire, is an affront to british values.