Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Yes. Just as you said. 'It's sad but true, but there's no real appetite for a second referendum' = 'Britons favour second referendum by 16-point margin'.

 

Just like you said. Jesus. What a terminal bore. Don't you have the self confidence to just say 'Oh, that's interesting... yes, looks like...'?

You've clearly interpreted the stats to suit your own argument.

 

If there's an "appetite" for something surely those who wanted something would be of a higher percentage in the polls than the combined totals of those who don't want something AND those who are apparently indifferent? Which is not the case.

[Plev]

Seeing as he was Shadow NI Secretary, and staying in the Single Market and Customs Union would resolve the issues around the border, I’m struggling to see what Owen Smith has done wrong here. Not a great look for Corbyn in my opinion.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Too busy juggling his free accounts. Must have over 15k posts and never paid a penny.

Yawn.

 

Why would I use fake accounts if I'm happy to call you a boring, arl racist on this account?

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Well, he committed the sin of disagreeing with the leader and calling for a second referendum, didn't he.

Corbyn is worse than Stalin.

[Numero Veinticinco]

Corbyn is worse than Stalin.

Or, depending on how you look at it, better.

[cloggypop]

Corbyn is worse than Stalin.

Have you recently joined RAWK?

[SasaS]

So, as I said, more people don't want a second referendum/aren't arsed, than those who do want a second referendum.

 

 

You did say "there is no real appetite", and close to 50% of people surveyed wanting a referendum would suggest that the general public, if not exactly ravenous, has a relatively healthy appetite.

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

You did say "there is no real appetite", and close to 50% of people surveyed wanting a referendum would suggest that the general public, if not exactly ravenous, has a relatively healthy appetite.

No real appetite vs relatively healthy appetite is all quite airy fairy and vague. The numbers show the true picture. And certainly don't point towards a "heavy appetite" for a second referendum on the exit terms.

 

I'm a leave voter. But, I think it could be political suicide for Labour to be seen as the party who are trying to stop Brexit. We can look at one poll in isolation. But, a party has already stood on a stopping Brexit platform and they didn't really gain much from it.

[Numero Veinticinco]

And certainly don't point towards a "heavy appetite" for a second referendum on the exit terms.

Absolute nonsense. When Labour won an overwhelming victory against the Conservatives in 1997, they got 43% of the vote on a 71% turnout. Or, as you like to call it, no appetite for a Labour government.

 

It's almost unbelievable that you're carrying on with this. Almost.

[Jairzinho]

Gutted.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Absolute nonsense. When Labour won an overwhelming victory against the Conservatives in 1997, they got 43% of the vote on a 71% turnout. Or, as you like to call it, no appetite for a Labour government.

 

It's almost unbelievable that you're carrying on with this. Almost.

 

I didn't say "no appetite"

 

Please edit your post so that it doesn't misquote me.

 

Thanks.

 

And, to attempt to compare a binding, long established method of deciding a general election to a small opinion poll is absolutely hilarious. Well done.

[Neil G]

Seeing as he was Shadow NI Secretary, and staying in the Single Market and Customs Union would resolve the issues around the border, I’m struggling to see what Owen Smith has done wrong here. Not a great look for Corbyn in my opinion.

Smith has done nothing wrong as far as holding that opinion goes, I support it over Corbyn’s position. If you’re a minister or shadow minister though you have to publicly support party policy.

 

I’m disappointed and surprised that he’s done this now, given that there’s no realistic possibility either of having a second referendum before Brexit, or of forcing the government to stay in the SM and CU beyond the currently agreed end of the transition period in December 2020. Whether he did it out of conviction or because he wants another crack at the leadership, or a combination of both, he’d have been better off keeping his powder dry for a while.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I didn't say "no appetite"

 

Please edit your post so that it doesn't misquote me.

 

Thanks.

First off, I didn't quote you; I was mocking you. Secondly, no. Your ignorance is quite something. Just a little bit too much 'cunt' thrown in for me, Clive.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

First off, I didn't quote you; I was mocking you. Secondly, no. You ignorance is quite something. Just a little bit too much 'cunt' thrown in for me, Clive.

"Or, as you like to call it, no appetite for a Labour government."

 

Seems like you're attributing words to me? Which is pretty much what quoting is.

 

Wow. You're all over the place here. Are you worked up or something?

[Numero Veinticinco]

"Or, as you like to call it, no appetite for a Labour government."

 

Seems like you're attributing words to me? Which is pretty much what quoting is.

 

Wow. You're all over the place here. Are you worked up or something?

I'm all over the place? Do you think saying things makes them true? No, as I said, I was mocking your view. But maybe you're beyond parody.

 

I'm bored of this now. Too easy.

[Rico1304]

Yawn.

Why would I use fake accounts if I'm happy to call you a boring, arl racist on this account?

I don’t know, seems fucking mental. Really mental.

[Numero Veinticinco]

I don’t know, seems fucking mental. Really mental.

How come I've never noticed him? He has 10k posts.

 

I'm losing it, reek. I'm losing it. We need Rapey's inquisitive mind for this.

[Rico1304]

No real appetite vs relatively healthy appetite is all quite airy fairy and vague. The numbers show the true picture. And certainly don't point towards a "heavy appetite" for a second referendum on the exit terms.

I'm a leave voter. But, I think it could be political suicide for Labour to be seen as the party who are trying to stop Brexit. We can look at one poll in isolation. But, a party has already stood on a stopping Brexit platform and they didn't really gain much from it.

Like I said mental.

 

Hope someone is keeping track.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I'm all over the place? Do you think saying things makes them true? No, as I said, I was mocking your view. But maybe you're beyond parody.

 

I'm bored of this now. Too easy.

You've been on one for about a week now. It's quite funny to read. Read the post back. It was a civil discussion and then you just snapped. Are you prone to angry outbursts in real life?

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Like I said mental.

 

Hope someone is keeping track.

Oh, do pipe down you dull old racist.

[Numero Veinticinco]

You've been on one for about a week now. It's quite funny to read. Read the post back. It was a civil discussion and then you just snapped. Are you prone to angry outbursts in real life?

Like I say, you've got me pegged with this 'angry' stuff. Quite the tuppence-psychologist.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Like I say, you've got me pegged with this 'angry' stuff. Quite the tuppence-psychologist.

The evidence is there. Read it back. I think you need help.

[Numero Veinticinco]

The evidence is there. Read it back. I think you need help.

Yes, I'm mental. 47% of people agree.

[Denny Crane]

I've seen all sorts of polls and the wording and the way the question is framed changes the polling outcome. This one from Dec 2017. 

 

 

 

[Rico1304]

Oh, do pipe down you dull old racist.

I’m the racist but you’re the one wanting to leave Europe. Your bedfellows are Farage and co.