Middle East Thread

[Gnasher]

First the complaint was that bombing would kill too many, now the complaint is that it's not killing enough.

 

When someone is damned if they do and damned if they don't, the only conclusion one can come to is that our governments can do no right in some people's eyes.

 

Whether that is because those folk are impossible to please, or simply that they just hate Britain, is a question I've no real interest in knowing the answer to.

You did not answer the question, do you agree on the enforcement to buy Israeli goods?

[Gnasher]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israel-boycott-local-councils-public-bodies-and-student-unions-to-be-banned-from-shunning-israeli-a6874006.html

 

For people who believe in a free capitalist environment where you buy what you want to buy and fuck off what you want to fuck off, it appears that some things are not that easy to fuck off.

[Nightcat]

If you are so passionate you can start by boycotting Islamonazi Turkey for the extermination campaigns against the Kurds.

[Jairzinho]

What do Turkey make?

[Jairzinho]

That isn't the start of a joke I genuinely haven't a clue.

[Nightcat]

Yes very funny.

 

But when Islamonazi SS Tayyip Adolf Erdogan, visited Ecuador and Chile this month, there were mass demonstrations for the Kurdish Genocide by Islamonazi Turkey. I bet you have not heard anything about those demonstrations by your cunt media.

 

When the Turkish dictator visits the E.U., you welcome him with red carpets.

[aws]

Boycotting holidays in Turkey would be a good start.

[Boss]

What do Turkey make?

 

They make some very nice baths. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

What do Turkey make?

http://www.worldsrichestcountries.com/top_turkey_exports.html

[Stu Monty]

I'm confused, one of the arguments against bombing was collateral damage so we were told that every effort would be taken to avoid civilian deaths. Sounds like that's happening. Where's the issue?

 

Do you genuinely not understand the point? Because you either don't, or you and Stronts are once again lowering yourselves to posting drivel in order to troll people.

 

The point being made was that one of the reasons it was apparently necessary for us to get involved was to use our fancy bombs, and that maybe that that actually wasn't so important if they still haven't used any of them. 

 

Now, trying to be grown up about talking to other people; do you understand that point?

[Rico1304]

Do you genuinely not understand the point? Because you either don't, or you and Stronts are once again lowering yourselves to posting drivel in order to troll people.

 

The point being made was that one of the reasons it was apparently necessary for us to get involved was to use our fancy bombs, and that maybe that that actually wasn't so important if they still haven't used any of them.

 

Now, trying to be grown up about talking to other people; do you understand that point?

Stu - I've decided that the 'grown up' thing is an attempt to wind me up so I'm just going to ignore it and you from now on. Have fun.

 

The point I'm obviously making and you are ignoring is that the bomb can be as smart as you but if it's not deemed appropriate to use it because of the risk of collateral damage it won't be used.

[Anubis]

The point is, at the time the U.S., French and Russia had bombed the shit out of ISIS targets worth bombing (as pointed out by U.S. military officials at the time), and there was no need for us to become involved.

[General Dryness]

What do Turkey make?

A lovely christmas dinner and a weeks worth of leftovers?

[Jairzinho]

A lovely christmas dinner and a weeks worth of leftovers?

 

You've combined Bernard Matthews and Bernard Manning. 

[General Dryness]

Fucking hell, what a hideous drooling man beast that would have been.

[dennis tooth]

Rico my prediction at the time was that we werent going to bomb isis but target syrias infrastructure, which is whats happend.

 

At the very least its a total waste of taxpayers money flying expensive jets around if all any grouping of isis has to do is to keep a few hostages nearby to stop us dropping bombs.

[Stu Monty]

Stu - I've decided that the 'grown up' thing is an attempt to wind me up so I'm just going to ignore it and you from now on. Have fun.

 

The point I'm obviously making and you are ignoring is that the bomb can be as smart as you but if it's not deemed appropriate to use it because of the risk of collateral damage it won't be used.

 

It isn't an attempt to wind you up at all, it's an attempt to get you to stop posting some of this daft trolling you have been doing and bring some quality to the conversation, which you can when you're not doing the cheap stuff.

 

That wasn't the point you were making. If it was, and if you worded it like that then you'd have got a different response. It's also not, in any way, a decent riposte to the idea that we had to get involved because we had special fancy bombs that were needed to help the efforts, is it? That was the point you responded to. A point that is totally correct. They can't claim that the weapon they have is essential to the fight, then not use it and expect people not top point out their first claim was clearly bollocks.

 

We got involved to be one of the "big boys" and to decrease the chances of the outcome being a stable Syria ruled by Assad, not because our super special bombs were needed.

[Gnasher]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/roger-waters-pink-floyd-israel-boycott-ban-palestine-a6884971.html

 

Always liked Roger Waters and Pink Floyd.

[Rico1304]

Russia bombing civilians is policy

US bombing hospital is an accident

Russia Guilty Of Syria War Crimes, Says Amnesty

http://news.sky.com/story/1645573/russia-guilty-of-syria-war-crimes-says-amnesty

[dennis tooth]

Usa bomb killed 30 odd civilians the other day and the article you put up provided no proof russia even dropped that bomb referred to.

[Rico1304]

Usa bomb killed 30 odd civilians the other day and the article you put up provided no proof russia even dropped that bomb referred to.

Did you click through to the Amnesty report?

 

Or are we saying Amnesty is no longer a credible organisation?

[dennis tooth]

Did you click through to the Amnesty report?

 

Or are we saying Amnesty is no longer a credible organisation?

No I read the quotes in the article. They didnt offer evidence other than that it was aimed at the fsa.

Whats not credible for anyone is claiming russia has committed war crimes and omitting turkey, usa, saudis, fsf, isis etc and offering no evidence for it.

[Rico1304]

No I read the quotes in the article. They didnt offer evidence other than that it was aimed at the fsa.

Whats not credible for anyone is claiming russia has committed war crimes and omitting turkey, usa, saudis, fsf, isis etc and offering no evidence for it.

click through then.

 

So, at the end of every article condemning an action they should caveat it with "X y and z are also bad"? Mentalist.

[dennis tooth]

click through then.

 

So, at the end of every article condemning an action they should caveat it with "X y and z are also bad"? Mentalist.

Anyone laying blame without evidence is in a poor place.

[dennis tooth]

http://www.amnestyusa.org/news/press-releases/us-ally-s-razing-of-villages-in-syria-amounts-to-war-crimes

 

Knight to king four.