Darwin vs The Bible

[General Dryness]

All orange chocolate should be outlawed. Mint chocolate should be government issue.

 

Pervert.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Hitler was not an atheist. In the first chapter of Mein Kamp, Hitler says he's doing God's work and executing God's will in destroying the Jewish people.

 

The Wehrmacht oath of loyalty to Adolf Hitler, sworn by all German officers, soldiers and civil servants:

 

""I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath."

 

The belt buckle of every Wermacht German soldier in WW2 said "GOTT MITT UNS", "God on our side."

 

Hitler and Stalin were killing for their ideology of socialism and communism, not atheism. In my humble opinion that is.

Oh dear.

 

If it really is your opinion that mad Alf Heatlump was a Socialist, then your opinion is demonstrably wrong.

[KopOut]

Not really. It doesn't need Orange Twixs either, but that's no good reason to get rid of them. You only get rid of them if they are detrimental. Which I'd argue it is. But orange Twixs certainly weren't...MARS CORP...yeah, I'm looking at you, you dicks.

No, no, you don't get rid of them.They get rid of themselves; in other words, they disappear, as the world becomes less ignorant.

 

However, getting rid of religion won't in itself stop all that is negative from happening between people, because we are still in  a gigantic battle for resources.

[Stu Monty]

All orange chocolate should be outlawed. Mint chocolate should be government issue.

This is easily the most ignorant and crazy opinion on the thread. Some going.

[boots123]

the whole of religion teeters on one question, where did god come from, no one can answer except to say, he was always there, which defies logic

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

the whole of religion teeters on one question, where did god come from, no one can answer except to say, he was always there, which defies logic

Birmingham.

[boots123]

Hitler was not an atheist. In the first chapter of Mein Kamp, Hitler says he's doing God's work and executing God's will in destroying the Jewish people.

 

The Wehrmacht oath of loyalty to Adolf Hitler, sworn by all German officers, soldiers and civil servants:

 

""I swear by God this sacred oath that to the Leader of the German empire and people, Adolf Hitler, supreme commander of the armed forces, I shall render unconditional obedience and that as a brave soldier I shall at all times be prepared to give my life for this oath."

 

The belt buckle of every Wermacht German soldier in WW2 said "GOTT MITT UNS", "God on our side."

 

Hitler and Stalin were killing for their ideology of socialism and communism, not atheism. In my humble opinion that is.

he killed them as the final solution, after he tried to deport them, but no one else would take them,  his reason was because the jews were undermining the german economy, I agree with his point, but certainly not his solution.

[Captain]

Oh dear.

 

If it really is your opinion that mad Alf Heatlump was a Socialist, then your opinion is demonstrably wrong.

He was, specifically refered to as national socialism.

[boots123]

one question about hitler perplexes me, before the war he spent some time in liverpool, and got to like us as hard working class people, so he would have got to know it, particularly were he stayed liverpool 8, so during the blitz why did he not hit the dingle oil jetties which would have removed liverpool from the map, were we just lucky or did he have a tiny soft spot for us.

[boots123]

Birmingham.

sure that wasn't judas priest

[AngryOfTuebrook]

He was, specifically refered to as national socialism.

National Socialism is a very different thing from Socialism, just as the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was not a Socialist state.

 

I could change my name to Wellhung McHandsome - sadly, it wouldn't mean that would be an accurate description.

[setreal]

He was, specifically refered to as national socialism.

 

Yeah, but their pr-department may have thought "National-Fascist German Workers Party" might have a bad ring to it.

[magicrat]

the whole of religion teeters on one question, where did god come from, no one can answer except to say, he was always there, which defies logic

In the same way as "what was there before the big bang" ? . The Universe popping into existence from a singularity takes a bit of getting to grips with.    . 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

the whole of religion teeters on one question, where did god come from, no one can answer except to say, he was always there, which defies logic

There's loads of stuff about all religions that defy logic, but I think that's beside the point.  If religious beliefs could be proven, by observation or by reason, they wouldn't be beliefs at all.  Religion requires faith, not logic.

 

I'm an atheist because I don't have faith in the existence of God.  I just don't feel it and I know there's no point trying to reason my way into a position of accepting God's existence, because that's a dead-end.

 

That's not to say that a lack of logic or reason is grounds to start bad-mouthing people who do have religious faith.  many of the things that make life enjoyable defy logic.  After all, the reason we are on this forum is because we favour one sports team over others - which is by no means a logical or rationally defensible position to take.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

In the same way as "what was there before the big bang" ? . The Universe popping into existence from a singularity takes a bit of getting to grips with.    . 

But people are working on trying to get to grips with that from a logical perspective, supported by evidence.  If someone comes up with a better explanation than the Big Bang Theory, then that will become widely accepted.

 

The religious position - in the Judaeo-Christian-Muslim tradition, at least - is "In the beginning was the Word"... and the word was "because I said so".  If someone comes up with a different explanation of the origin of God, they will be denounced as a heretic.

[Dougie Do'ins]

one question about hitler perplexes me, before the war he spent some time in liverpool, and got to like us as hard working class people, so he would have got to know it, particularly were he stayed liverpool 8, so during the blitz why did he not hit the dingle oil jetties which would have removed liverpool from the map, were we just lucky or did he have a tiny soft spot for us.

He never. It's nothing but a myth. It was either his brother or his first cousin who was studying in Liverpool and therefore some people just assumed that he must have visited the city. There's not a single bit of evidence to back the theory up.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

This is easily the most ignorant and crazy opinion on the thread. Some going.

Now, I don't mind you liking orange chocolate - that's just mindless bad taste - but I hope you're not having a dig at mint chocolate, because, buddy, we'll have to duke it out.

[Dougie Do'ins]

Orange chocolate is the son of mint chocolate, who was sent down to save us from the sin of coconut covered in chocolate or the devil in the guise of Bounty's.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

Orange chocolate is the son of mint chocolate, who was sent down to save us from the sin of coconut covered in chocolate or the devil in the guise of Bounty's.

A Bounty, whilst clearly too sweet, is still a good eat. They're no coconut macaroon, I'll grant you that.

[Lightforce]

In the same way as "what was there before the big bang" ? . The Universe popping into existence from a singularity takes a bit of getting to grips with.    . 

Matter is eternal, whether the big bang even happened or what this universe looked like nearly 15 billion years ago isn't important. The only rational explanation for the universe is that matter is eternal. Any alternative argument involves special pleading, they are contradictory, and therefore irrational. ALL religious arguments fail due to this. You don't need to get to grips with any "beginning" explanations, as there is no beginning. 

[Bjornebye]

Fuck the bible. 

[Stu Monty]

Now, I don't mind you liking orange chocolate - that's just mindless bad taste - but I hope you're not having a dig at mint chocolate, because, buddy, we'll have to duke it out.

 

I like a bit of mint chocolate, as befits a man who almost certainly comes from a line of Viscounts, but it is vastly inferior to its orange cousin. 

 

Let us hear no more of this filth or else we are surely to expect some serious jihad.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I like a bit of mint chocolate, as befits a man who almost certainly comes from a line of Viscounts, but it is vastly inferior to its orange cousin.

 

Let us hear no more of this filth or else we are surely to expect some serious jihad.

First half great, second half is bordline blasphemous. That said, common ground is important.

[Lee909]

Mars inc can take all the orange chocolate off the shelves they want but if the peanut butter kit kat ever disappears my vengeance will make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a punch up at KFC

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

I'd sooner eat a metric ton of chocolate orange than even sniff peanut butter chocolate. That's fucking sick.