Bascombe latest effort

[TheHitman]

It holds plenty of water the United comparison for the reasons I mentioned. The two most successful clubs in England.

 

American owners saddled clubs with debts that they are finding it hard to sustain, fans protesting against the owners, alledged syphoning of money (for them Ronaldo).

 

We are as big a club as them so why is whoever takes over Ferguson meant to be blessed and lucky and whoever takes over us destined for doom? Doesn't make any kind of sense. In fact actually, it does.

 

As much as it grates to admit it, we may be equal in titles won despite not winning one for 20 years. This is is far as parity goes they are way ahead of us due to mismanagement in the boardroom for the past two decades.

[Iantn]

Has Rafael Benitez ever won anything without Pako at his side??

 

Nope, but given he was with him for the majority of his managerial career I'm not sure that is the defining factor here.

[Coro]

I'm not saying they will but they'll be in a pretty much no lose situation.

 

For example, us finished 7th again next season under Rafa would be deemed far worse, rightly or wrongly, than us finished 7th next season under a new manager.

 

New managers are given time and especially so given the current owner situation.

 

A top class manager would want guarantees about this and that which this club just cannot offer.

 

It's all about damage limitation in the short term and any new manager will be a temporary appointment until, fingers crossed, things are sorted with new ownership.

[Juan Galonso]

Who's saying that?

 

Loads have said it on here recently Coro and Johnny H was the most recent a few posts further up.

[Torvald Utne]

'worse position' is not 'a meltdown', we have to read enough made up shit in the papers, do we have to have it on here too?

[TheFutureisRed]

Could some one sum up the latest goings on briefly for me please as i can't be arsed reading through the whole thing.

[Juan Galonso]

So what your saying fungus or Johnny H is that we will finish lower than 7th next season should ANY new manager come in next season?

 

I would take a bet on that with you if you want that we will finish higher should we get a new manager in next season. Money to charity of choice.

[Iantn]

A top class manager would want guarantees about this and that which this club just cannot offer.

 

It's all about damage limitation in the short term and any new manager will be a temporary appointment until, fingers crossed, things are sorted with new ownership.

 

It depends on may things to be fair.

 

Who you class as a top class manager, not that it has to be one for us to be successful, and what kinda guarantees are wanted.

[Torvald Utne]

So what your saying fungus or Johnny H is that we will finish lower than 7th next season should ANY new manager come in next season?

 

I would take a bet on that with you if you want that we will finish higher should we get a new manager in next season. Money to charity of choice.

 

No, I give him a bad season because I'm not a Sky generation Newcastle-esque reactionist.

 

I'm of the opinion that we will finish higher than 7th with Rafa still in charge, probably 4th where we belong. :whistle:

[Juan Galonso]

No, I give him a bad season because I'm not a Sky generation Newcastle-esque reactionist.

 

I'm of the opinion that we will finish higher than 7th with Rafa still in charge, probably 4th where we belong.

 

Yeah went to my first game in 1984 and because I want the manager out I am a Sky Generation Newcastle-esque reactionist. Priceless. ;-)

[The Tott]

Nope, but given he was with him for the majority of his managerial career I'm not sure that is the defining factor here.

 

Well he seems to have lost the plot since Pako left.......

[zigackly]

How's the next manager supposed to turn things around whilst Hicks and Gillett remain as owners?

 

It depends what "turning things around" means. If it means winning the league then you're right. If it means our players playing as if they've met each other before and have a clue what to do with a football, then it shouldn't be impossible.

[Iantn]

Well he seems to have lost the plot since Pako left.......

 

Or the yanks took over.......

[diego]

The vicious tittle tattle that the ruling clique on here has been producing remorselessly and with increasing obsessiveness for more than twelve months is the Petri dish in which Bascombe cultivates his weekly serving of poisonous tripe in the Sun's sister tabloid.

 

The ruling clique on here (and their idiot apprentices) are like an inbred gaggle of superannuated Troskyites constantly trying to reassure themselves that they are still relevant. Their febrile plots and counter-plots do not even have the merit of wit. They are no more than ponderously transparent lies, gossip, mischievous speculation and outright prejudice.

 

Their breathelss hints that there is some kind of communication between this site and Gerrard, Carragher and Bascombe - the paid biographer of those two "stalwarts" - adds to the sleaziness of the gossip that emanates from this site about LFC - especially about Rafa and the players he has signed.

 

Needless to say, I think LFC is very lucky to have Rafa. He is far too good for the ruling clique on here.

[Code]

Jesus wept.

[Chinandeler Bong]

The vicious tittle tattle that the ruling clique on here has been producing remorselessly and with increasing obsessiveness for more than twelve months is the Petri dish in which Bascombe cultivates his weekly serving of poisonous tripe in the Sun's sister tabloid.

 

The ruling clique on here (and their idiot apprentices) are like an inbred gaggle of superannuated Troskyites constantly trying to reassure themselves that they are still relevant. Their febrile plots and counter-plots do not even have the merit of wit. They are no more than ponderously transparent lies, gossip, mischievous speculation and outright prejudice.

 

Their breathelss hints that there is some kind of communication between this site and Gerrard, Carragher and Bascombe - the paid biographer of those two "stalwarts" - adds to the sleaziness of the gossip that emanates from this site about LFC - especially about Rafa and the players he has signed.

 

Needless to say, I think LFC is very lucky to have Rafa. He is far too good for the ruling clique on here.

 

You are Gay.

[Juan Galonso]

The vicious tittle tattle that the ruling clique on here has been producing remorselessly and with increasing obsessiveness for more than twelve months is the Petri dish in which Bascombe cultivates his weekly serving of poisonous tripe in the Sun's sister tabloid.

 

The ruling clique on here (and their idiot apprentices) are like an inbred gaggle of superannuated Troskyites constantly trying to reassure themselves that they are still relevant. Their febrile plots and counter-plots do not even have the merit of wit. They are no more than ponderously transparent lies, gossip, mischievous speculation and outright prejudice.

 

Their breathelss hints that there is some kind of communication between this site and Gerrard, Carragher and Bascombe - the paid biographer of those two "stalwarts" - adds to the sleaziness of the gossip that emanates from this site about LFC - especially about Rafa and the players he has signed.

 

Needless to say, I think LFC is very lucky to have Rafa. He is far too good for the ruling clique on here.

 

Sorry you feel that way Graham. I would love you to be right and to feel lucky to have Rafa. I just think a parting of the ways for both is for the best.

[Guest Ulysses Everett McGill]

I just find it somewhat bizarre that he can

make a statement as defiantly as that, and expect no one to question

it. I know UEM gets alot of stuff spot on, but I've heard other things

from other people so it's about coming to your own conclusions.

 

So we've gathered Rafa met his lawyers/solicitor in London the day of

the meeting, It's all too convenient for me.

 

Ant, I'm not quite sure exactly what you want me to say?

 

a)"Sénor Sauces" told me?

 

b)Purslow phoned me to tell me?

 

c)Tom Wilson told me?

 

d)Someone got really drunk at a corporate do during the week and let their

mouth run away with them?

 

e)All of the above

 

f)None of the above

 

I posted what I did despite some serious reservations as I've made a

decision not to get involved anymore on here.

 

I've no idea where this lawyer rumour came from, but it's a provocative and

malicious one, one designed to be repeated over and over, and whispered

about in corners, not too dissimilar from the Gerrard rumours that were

purportedly 'fact'.

 

And because of the 'confidential' nature of these meetings, it's hardly as

if the club can issue a statement either way, not that they have to react

to idle internet rumours anyway.

 

And to really believe for one second if there was any substance whatsoever

to this nonsense that the tabloids wouldn't have been all over it?

 

Not looking to get into a debate or an argument with anyone, you really can

take it or leave it, and I'm not going to adding further to the thread, but

surely it's up to those people who are making these claims to back them up,

not the other way around?

[Ted]

Why ask me? Ask David Bond, I'm sure his email address is easy for you to find, not so sure he'd just tell you though.

 

Who do you think it was?

 

Why not ask you?

 

And how would I know who it was? I'm just a fan.

[Antynwa]

Ant, I'm not quite sure exactly what you want me to say?

 

a)"Sénor Sauces" told me?

 

b)Purslow phoned me to tell me?

 

c)Tom Wilson told me?

 

d)Someone got really drunk at a corporate do during the week and let their

mouth run away with them?

 

e)All of the above

 

f)None of the above

 

I posted what I did despite some serious reservations as I've made a

decision not to get involved anymore on here.

 

I've no idea where this lawyer rumour came from, but it's a provocative and

malicious one, one designed to be repeated over and over, and whispered

about in corners, not too dissimilar from the Gerrard rumours that were

purportedly 'fact'.

 

And because of the 'confidential' nature of these meetings, it's hardly as

if the club can issue a statement either way, not that they have to react

to idle internet rumours anyway.

 

And to really believe for one second if there was any substance whatsoever

to this nonsense that the tabloids wouldn't have been all over it?

 

Not looking to get into a debate or an argument with anyone, you really can

take it or leave it, and I'm not going to adding further to the thread, but

surely it's up to those people who are making these claims to back them up,

not the other way around?

 

 

Fair enough, I know you wouldn't post something with such certainty if you hadn't believed it yourself.

 

I don't expect you to reveal your sources, but at the same time when you say 'It's up to those who are making the claims to back them up', you know yourself, infact you've seen me trying to get every little bit of Info I can off you on this thread how it's wrong to expect people to re-veal their sources.

It's about protecting to privilege of knowing stuff so I respect that.

 

But a few things are telling with me.

 

Why didn't Benitez come out originally when he was asked the question, have you met the Chairman, and just told the full truth, not the twisted truth.

 

Not only that, but we know his agent has been speaking to Juventus. How is he allowed to get away with that, it's not on.

[Antynwa]

No, I give him a bad season because I'm not a Sky generation Newcastle-esque reactionist.

 

I'm of the opinion that we will finish higher than 7th with Rafa still in charge, probably 4th where we belong. :whistle:

 

I've noticed in this thread you've offered fuck all of your own opinion and just made little petty shots at other posters.

 

Well done on the bottom two lines, thats the first worthwhile contribution you've made to this thread.

[Code]

 

I've no idea where this lawyer rumour came from, but it's a provocative and

malicious one, one designed to be repeated over and over, and whispered

about in corners, not too dissimilar from the Gerrard rumours that were

purportedly 'fact'.

 

 

Someone saw Rafa together with his lawyer in London.

 

What I want to know is does it really matter if there was any lawyers or not present at any of these meetings?

 

Another question I have not got answered yet is why would it be against the clubs interests if senior sources at the club briefed the press against the manager?

 

I`d argue it might be the exact opposite since he obviously do not have the dignity to resign considering he has failed miserably at his job and now instead is desperatly clingining onto his payout after Juve realised what they were dealing with and dropped their interest in him.

[Chippo]

Someone saw Rafa together with his lawyer in London.

 

What I want to know is does it really matter if there was any lawyers or not present at any of these meetings?

 

Another question I have not got answered yet is why would it be against the clubs interests if senior sources at the club briefed the press against the manager?

 

I`d argue it might be the exact opposite since he obviously do not have the dignity to resign after considering he has failed miserably at his job and now instead is desperatly clingining onto his payout after Juve realised what they were dealing with and dropped their interest.

 

Are you serious?

[Captain]

Someone saw Rafa together with his lawyer in London.

 

What I want to know is does it really matter if there was any lawyers or not present at any of these meetings?

To those perpetuating that 'fact', it seems to matter.

 

Another question I have not got answered yet is why would it be against the clubs interests if senior sources at the club briefed the press against the manager?

Probably because the question is so stupid no-one can be arsed replying to it.

[Ted]

You just did.