gambling

[Rico1304]

Did I blame the tories?

 

No, I made a general point (which could equally be applied to Labour).

 

So you can get back in your fucking pram.

Fuck off you dickhead and fold yourself back in your box.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

Some serious origami required here.

[magicrat]

Which government introduced them? I heard on the radio yesterday it was Labour but happy to be corrected.

 

I think it was under Blair the restrictions were lifted,  What's your point ?

Action is required now to protect the vulnerable and we have the Tories in power.

[VladimirIlyich]

I think it was under Blair the restrictions were lifted, What's your point ?

Action is required now to protect the vulnerable and we have the Tories in power.

So it was a tory that introduced them then.

[Rico1304]

I think it was under Blair the restrictions were lifted,  What's your point ?

Action is required now to protect the vulnerable and we have the Tories in power.

Do you not seeing the hypocrisy in people blaming the Tories and saying they are using them as instruments of oppression when the problem was created by Labour?

 

Ban them fo me, seems to be a huge problem.

[Rick Sanchez C-137]

It's a rigged system and the house will always win in the long run.

 

The only way to win is if you're particular good and playing against humans i.e. poker, and with the robots playing these days it's still a lot to do with luck.

 

I'd bet on about 2 games a season if I'm feeling particularly lucky, maybe £5-10 quid a time. That's enough for me.

[Rico1304]

It's a rigged system and the house will always win in the long run.

The only way to win is if you're particular good and playing against humans i.e. poker, and with the robots playing these days it's still a lot to do with luck.

I'd bet on about 2 games a season if I'm feeling particularly lucky, maybe £5-10 quid a time. That's enough for me.

There was a phone in on LBC yesterday and a caller (who may have been talking shite) said the guy who wrote the programme guaranteed the house a win. Apparently he’s now a billionaire who’s just bought Camden market.

[Fowlers God]

So it was a tory that introduced them then.

Hahah

[Strontium]

Do you not seeing the hypocrisy in people blaming the Tories and saying they are using them as instruments of oppression when the problem was created by Labour?

 

Ban them fo me, seems to be a huge problem.

 

It ties into the wider of issue of how far the state should go to protect people from themselves. Reducing the maximum permitted stake would be something of a compromise. But ultimately, if folk are determined to gamble their lives away, there's not a lot that will stop them. Problem gambling existed long before FOBTs.

[Jairzinho]

It's a rigged system and the house will always win in the long run.

 

The only way to win is if you're particular good and playing against humans i.e. poker, and with the robots playing these days it's still a lot to do with luck.

 

I'd bet on about 2 games a season if I'm feeling particularly lucky, maybe £5-10 quid a time. That's enough for me.

 

Or sports betting.

 

Some gambling it is possible to have an edge, hence the presence of professionals. Some, Fruities, FOBTs, Roulette, etc, it clearly isn't. 

 

FOBTs should be banned, they destroy people's lives. They won't be, obviously, as they make bookmakers enormous amounts of money and said bookmakers donate to the Tory party.

[Kloppite]

It was labour wasn't it that deregulated the gambling industry on tony Blair's watch. It was also a labour government that wanted to build a super casino in an area of Manchester that was a deprived area.

[Jairzinho]

Yes, it was a cunt government that had very little to do with the values of Democratic Socialism. 

[Kloppite]

It's a rigged system and the house will always win in the long run.

 

The only way to win is if you're particular good and playing against humans i.e. poker, and with the robots playing these days it's still a lot to do with luck.

 

I'd bet on about 2 games a season if I'm feeling particularly lucky, maybe £5-10 quid a time. That's enough for me.

The games are rigged it's got fuck all to do with the fact you're playing against robots it's the fact they are designed to take your money while stringing you along.

 

I agree that they need to do something about them. I go in the william hill by mine once a week and will do a few accumulators to the value of 5 or 10 quid. Win or lose it doesn't really make much difference to me cause I enjoy having a little flutter on the footie of a weekend but I can take it or leave it and like I said winning isn't my sold purpose of playing although it is nice.

 

I feel for these people as i have had a few problems with alcohol in the past and people think the only people with problems are the people you see begging in the street but I only drank of a weekend and if wasn't the amount I drank it was just drinking in general that caused me shit and I am quite sure the same is true with gambling addiction.

[Kloppite]

Yes, it was a cunt government that had very little to do with the values of Democratic Socialism.

It was accepted at the time that the only way labour was going to get into power was to become like the Tories so we ended up with new labour.

[Jairzinho]

It was accepted at the time that the only way labour was going to get into power was to become like the Tories so we ended up with new labour.

 

Thankfully the party has finally become moderately left wing again.

[Strontium]

Yep, back to the days of telling people how they can spend their own money.

[Jairzinho]

I much prefer children going without food because one of their parents has blitzed their entire wage packet in a FOBT. 

 

[VladimirIlyich]

Thankfully the party has finally become moderately left wing again.

Bloody Communist!

[Rico1304]

Thankfully the party has finally become moderately left wing again.

If JC(PBUH) gets in and the inevitable disaster happens this will be the phrase used to excuse it all. He was only ‘moderately left wing’.

 

Of course Jairz will be in Spain covered in birds and winning millions from poker. Or did that happen?

[VladimirIlyich]

If JC(PBUH) gets in and the inevitable disaster happens this will be the phrase used to excuse it all. He was only ‘moderately left wing’.

 

Of course Jairz will be in Spain covered in birds and winning millions from poker. Or did that happen?

Disaster,for whom? And by whose criteria? Blair's reign was a disaster but he served multiple stints as PM. Thing is,its never a disaster for the rich its just simply a matter of scale of how shit it is for the everyday person depending on how much input they allow big business into government policy. With the tories that means loads of input,with Labour I'd hope it is minimal.

[magicrat]

Do you not seeing the hypocrisy in people blaming the Tories and saying they are using them as instruments of oppression when the problem was created by Labour?

 

Ban them fo me, seems to be a huge problem.

 

It goes with the territory . Tories have been in power for 7 years

[Jairzinho]

Why do you (the generic "you") have to keep quoting that monstrously tedious fucking wanker?

[The Guest]

I think the point people like Rico completely miss when it comes to people blaming the tories for things like this is that a lot of people throw Tony Blair’s Labour in with the tories. Labour, being on the left of politics, is meant to offer regulation of the market to stop it running wild and exploiting people and society in general.

 

Deregulation of gambling and the banks, privatising the NHS etc is right wing behaviour and policies. People are and we’re rightly pissed off about it. It’s comical that all these things have subsequently caused all the major problems in our society today yet the country have since voted in a party that would have done the above and worse had they been in power instead.

[skend04]

I think the point people like Rico completely miss when it comes to people blaming the tories for things like this is that a lot of people throw Tony Blair’s Labour in with the tories. Labour, being on the left of politics, is meant to offer regulation of the market to stop it running wild and exploiting people and society in general.

 

Deregulation of gambling and the banks, privatising the NHS etc is right wing behaviour and policies. People are and we’re rightly pissed off about it. It’s comical that all these things have subsequently caused all the major problems in our society today yet the country have since voted in a party that would have done the above and worse had they been in power instead.

The Tories have been forced into taking some action having completely ignored it for inclusion in their manifesto. At least they are looking at now doubling the time it takes to spin £100 from 20 to 40 seconds.

[Kloppite]

Was going to add this to my earlier post but forgot.

 

When j go the bookies the people you generally see using these fixed odds betting machines are people who don't look like they can afford to be using them and a lot of the time they are people who don't bet on the footie or horses. They look like the type of people who would never go into a casino bug the problem may be that these machines are increasing the numbers of people who are susceptible to gambling addiction.

 

Don't you need to be a member in order to enter a casino or is that not the case?