Keir Starmer

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

It doesn't warrant any sort of dismissal though. 

Well, I totally accept that you don’t think it does. I actually think it’s more likely that he refusal to follow instruction on deleting it was probably the reason for sacking her. That seems more of a concern than this anti-left agenda people are concocting. Even then, I guess it’s up for debate as to what is grounds for dismissal. I guess we will see if anything else comes out. I would say that this seems like a deliberate message, because it’s now a big deal. It didn’t need to be. 

[sir roger]

Some suggestion on Skwawkbox that the two have been at loggerheads over the school opening debate , with RLB avidly against an early return and Starmer backing the government in principle.

[Rico1304]

1 hour ago, AngryofTuebrook said:

I've no idea whether Equity routinely condemn actors who say racist stuff in interviews.  What I do know is that Maxine Peake said nothing racist in this interview.

Ask Lawrence Fox. He might know. 

[Strontium]

Whatever a person's individual views of the sacking, Labour people would do well to learn the lessons of the past, and not tear the party to pieces over this issue yet again.

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Well they have a Union. Wonder what they’ll say? Oh, nothing. 

Why in heavens name would they get involved ?

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Well they have a Union. Wonder what they’ll say? Oh, nothing. 

Double post

[Jairzinho]

2 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Whatever a person's individual views of the sacking, Labour people would do well to learn the lessons of the past, and not tear the party to pieces over this issue yet again.

It's not controllable.

 

 

[sir roger]

1 hour ago, Rico1304 said:

Well they have a Union. Wonder what they’ll say? Oh, nothing. 

Treble post

[Rico1304]

Just now, sir roger said:

Why in heavens name would they get involved ?

Ask Lawrence Fox

Ask Lawrence Fox 

Ask Lawrence Fox 

[Section_31]

The most disheartening, depressing and indeed boring thing about this is that you already knew who would be fuming about it and who'd be happy aboit it, based 110% on their previous views on Corbyn's leadership.

[Rico1304]

White lives matter - obvious sub-text = racist (which I completely agree with)

Israel trained these cops - no subtext, just read the words.  

[sir roger]

6 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Whatever a person's individual views of the sacking, Labour people would do well to learn the lessons of the past, and not tear the party to pieces over this issue yet again.

Its almost as if that was the plan from the start.

[Numero Veinticinco]

7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

Whatever a person's individual views of the sacking, Labour people would do well to learn the lessons of the past, and not tear the party to pieces over this issue yet again.

True.

3 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

It's not controllable.

Also true.

2 minutes ago, Section_31 said:

The most disheartening, depressing and indeed boring thing about this is that you already knew who would be fuming about it and who'd be happy aboit it, based 110% on their previous views on Corbyn's leadership.

Truest. 

[sir roger]

8 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

Ask Lawrence Fox. He might know. 

The Equity that apologised for upsetting poor Laurence,  forcing their whole anti-racism committee to resign,  that Equity ?

[Numero Veinticinco]

I wonder which ultra-right winger he will replace her with, or which left winger who he’s setting up to be fired. Those are the only two options. Apparently. 

[Rico1304]

17 minutes ago, sir roger said:

The Equity that apologised for upsetting poor Laurence,  forcing their whole anti-racism committee to resign,  that Equity ?

To be clear, Equity provided a non-apology, which then prompted the anti racism committee to resign. No one was forced to do anything.  

[Moo]

Can you be anti-Israel (not anti it's existence of course) without being antisemitic? 

If a person is anti-English or anti-American, who are they racist towards? 

 

[Numero Veinticinco]

3 minutes ago, Moo said:

Can you be anti-Israel (not anti it's existence of course) without being antisemitic? 

Yes. 

3 minutes ago, Moo said:

If a person is anti-English or anti-American, who are they racist towards? 

Anti-English/American, as in anti-England/America? If you’ve got an issue with the government, the way they act, their foreign policy, etc., then you’re not being racist towards anyone. 

[Bjornebye]

5 minutes ago, Moo said:

Can you be anti-Israel (not anti it's existence of course) without being antisemitic? 

If a person is anti-English or anti-American, who are they racist towards? 

 

Depends who you say it too and their agenda. 

 

(I'm not talking about anyone on here) 

[Moo]

9 minutes ago, Numero said:

Yes. 

Anti-English/American, as in anti-England/America? If you’ve got an issue with the government, the way they act, their foreign policy, etc., then you’re not being racist towards anyone. 

Yes anti-England and anti-America (and some of the horrible bastards that inhabit these two countries)

 

So if I go on an ill informed rant about the horrible state of America, or the horrible state of England, and in my disgust at how they act I spout some inaccuracies, then I shouldn't be accused of racism?  (unless my spouting is in fact racist of course) 

[Rico1304]

8 minutes ago, Moo said:

Yes anti-England and anti-America (and some of the horrible bastards that inhabit these two countries)

 

So if I go on an ill informed rant about the horrible state of America, or the horrible state of England, and in my disgust at how they act I spout some inaccuracies, then I shouldn't be accused of racism?  (unless my spouting is in fact racist of course) 

If you say ‘I hate the English government because they are sneaky, just like all English people’ that’s racist.  

[polymerpunkah]

I can see a lot of people very busy scouring their/others' twitter feeds for the next few hours.

[Gnasher]

23 minutes ago, Moo said:

Can you be anti-Israel (not anti it's existence of course) without being antisemitic? 

If a person is anti-English or anti-American, who are they racist towards? 

 

Definitely NOT.

 

You must never ever ever say anything remotely critical of Irael, Jews or Zionists or they WiLL come after you.

[Numero Veinticinco]

11 minutes ago, Rico1304 said:

If you say ‘I hate the English government because they are sneaky, just like all English people’ that’s racist.  

So English is a race, yet Muslims aren’t. Your argument about being able to become a Muslim but not a black person seems to fall apart now you’ve said that when you consider you can be one English. 
 

Just saying... 

[Megadrive Man]

 

 

Sums it up!