May calls General Election on 8 June

[Scooby Dudek]

Not wanting to kill millions of people makes you the crazy one. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

I bet you Rico has got about 15 stripy jackets.

[Red Phoenix]

Going back to part of that on iPlayer : that prick who was going on about IRA, Hamas, etc, was actually poking (the word Corbyn and Dimbleby used.) the guy in front of him. Corbyn and Dimbleby both saw it and commented. Then the guy sat there grinning like a fool and didn't say anything, before the guy in front of him started up on the nuclear issue again. Read whatever you want into that, but it was clearly fucking odd and makes you wonder at least about the pair of those cunts.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Boris speaking in Latin on Newsnight.

 

Fucking weapon.

[skend04]

Boring old bastards. If they are so itching to use nuclear bombs they can fuck off to war instead. Why waste thousands of young lives when these old cunts are seemingly trigger happy?

[RedKnight]

From the comments on the Guardian's live blog:

 

This has the feeling of a cricket match where, chasing down 300, Labour were 42-7. Now there's 2 overs to go and Labour are 280-9, Corbyn's 135 not out, and the Conseratives have the field spread.

 

You so want it to happen, it'd be such an amazing story. But deep inside there's an ugly hard part of me that keeps telling me how much it's going to hurt when Corbyn pumps a full toss down Long-On's throat and the Tories win with a majority of 10......

[cloggypop]

Boris speaking in Latin on Newsnight.

 

Fucking weapon.

Asinus irrumator maximus

[sir roger]

I think the series of head to heads had a sense of diminishing returns & I can't see the likes of tonight having even a minor effect on either sides chances.

 

There may be a very slight advantage to Corbyn in that there may be the odd person seeing him for the first time and realising he isn't the person usually painted by the media, but very little I would imagine by now.

 

Unless there is a major car crash moment over the next 5 days the biggest factor may well be the weather next Thursday.

[Faustus]

RedKnight, mate, I just can't bring myself to get optimistic. Credit to Corbyn, he's fought a hell of a campaign and I think it's admirable how he's galvanised the youth in this country, but we're dealing with a vast section of this society who've been weaned on a diet of cuntery, spun by five billionaires, for fucking ages. The nuke question summed it up, because it took (I'd guess) the youngest person who spoke about on it to point out the illogicality of the question. My generation, the under 30s, simply aren't arsed about that sort of stuff, or Corbyn having a brew with Gerry Adams, when our jobs are insecure, our wages are shite and we're struggling to get on the property ladder.

 

Unfortunately, it's the oldies and the ignorant who decide these sort of things. I've long since learned that social media (I only use Facebook, in fairness) is useless at times like this because it's an echo chamber. The vast majority of my mates are politically engaged and voting Labour. As I messaged my mate earlier this week when Corbyn came out of the debate looking well and the Tories were on the ropes, the big question is: What were the viewing figures for Britain's Got Talent on the other side and how many have already swallowed the 'strong and stable' crap without a single critical thought?

 

The biggest mistake Labour could make is if they abandon this current path. Unfortunately, given the PLP are mostly a gang of dicks, I could see Chuka and Hilary Benn using a defeat to go back to a centre-right Labour and undo all of this good work.

[RedKnight]

RedKnight, mate, I just can't bring myself to get optimistic. Credit to Corbyn, he's fought a hell of a campaign and I think it's admirable how he's galvanised the youth in this country, but we're dealing with a vast section of this society who've been weaned on a diet of cuntery, spun by five billionaires, for fucking ages. The nuke question summed it up, because it took (I'd guess) the youngest person who spoke about on it to point out the illogicality of the question. My generation, the under 30s, simply aren't arsed about that sort of stuff, or Corbyn having a brew with Gerry Adams, when our jobs are insecure, our wages are shite and we're struggling to get on the property ladder.

 

Unfortunately, it's the oldies and the ignorant who decide these sort of things. I've long since learned that social media (I only use Facebook, in fairness) is useless at times like this because it's an echo chamber. The vast majority of my mates are politically engaged and voting Labour. As I messaged my mate earlier this week when Corbyn came out of the debate looking well and the Tories were on the ropes, the big question is: What were the viewing figures for Britain's Got Talent on the other side and how many have already swallowed the 'strong and stable' crap without a single critical thought?

 

The biggest mistake Labour could make is if they abandon this current path. Unfortunately, given the PLP are mostly a gang of dicks, I could see Chuka and Hilary Benn using a defeat to go back to a centre-right Labour and undo all of this good work.

 

I agree, we need the youth to turn it in their droves but I just don't think they will.

[Mook]

From the comments on the Guardian's live blog:

 

This has the feeling of a cricket match where, chasing down 300, Labour were 42-7. Now there's 2 overs to go and Labour are 280-9, Corbyn's 135 not out, and the Conseratives have the field spread.

 

You so want it to happen, it'd be such an amazing story. But deep inside there's an ugly hard part of me that keeps telling me how much it's going to hurt when Corbyn pumps a full toss down Long-On's throat and the Tories win with a majority of 10......

Cricket analogys are one way to throw Scottish people off the scent, I have no idea what any of those numbers mean.

 

Thankfully I've been reading your posts on this thread and they've been spot on so I have some context.

[RedKnight]

Cricket analogys are one way to throw Scottish people off the scent, I have no idea what any of those numbers mean.

 

Thankfully I've been reading your posts on this thread and they've been spot on so I have some context.

 

Imagine Istanbul but we lose the penalty shoot-out and it's the same thing basically.

[Moctezuma]

RedKnight, mate, I just can't bring myself to get optimistic. Credit to Corbyn, he's fought a hell of a campaign and I think it's admirable how he's galvanised the youth in this country, but we're dealing with a vast section of this society who've been weaned on a diet of cuntery, spun by five billionaires, for fucking ages. The nuke question summed it up, because it took (I'd guess) the youngest person who spoke about on it to point out the illogicality of the question. My generation, the under 30s, simply aren't arsed about that sort of stuff, or Corbyn having a brew with Gerry Adams, when our jobs are insecure, our wages are shite and we're struggling to get on the property ladder.

 

Unfortunately, it's the oldies and the ignorant who decide these sort of things. I've long since learned that social media (I only use Facebook, in fairness) is useless at times like this because it's an echo chamber. The vast majority of my mates are politically engaged and voting Labour. As I messaged my mate earlier this week when Corbyn came out of the debate looking well and the Tories were on the ropes, the big question is: What were the viewing figures for Britain's Got Talent on the other side and how many have already swallowed the 'strong and stable' crap without a single critical thought?

 

The biggest mistake Labour could make is if they abandon this current path. Unfortunately, given the PLP are mostly a gang of dicks, I could see Chuka and Hilary Benn using a defeat to go back to a centre-right Labour and undo all of this good work.

 

Excellent post, I fall slightly outside your quoted age range but this is applicable for most of my friends as well. The boomers are obsessed with war and security I'm not sure whether this is due; to our press, growing up in the shadow of the previous generation who fought in the second world war and then didn't talk about it or growing up during the height of the cold war and not being able to adjust to a time outwith that. Possibly a combination of all 3.

[Red Phoenix]

Credit to Corbyn, he's fought a hell of a campaign and I think it's admirable how he's galvanised the youth in this country

 

When you think back over what he's gone through and he's got Labour to this point in the election, still with people in his own party hoping he eventually ends up a failure and most of the media against him, I think he's easily up there with Sanders. From loads of Labour frauds deserting him and Cameron standing there ridiculing him in the house of commons and telling him to quit, to this. I've liked Sanders for years but I do think that what Corbyn has done here has inspired me even more. It's an amazing achievement.

 

What he's done has taken true strength. It's not the soundbite shit that the Tories are peddling along with somehow being stable, when we can clearly see that they're not.

[RedKnight]

When you think back over what he's gone through and he's got Labour to this point in the election, still with people in his own party hoping he eventually ends up a failure and most of the media against him, I think he's easily up there with Sanders. From loads of Labour frauds deserting him and Cameron standing there ridiculing him in the house of commons and telling him to quit, to this. I've liked Sanders for years but I do think that what Corbyn has done here has inspired me even more. It's an amazing achievement.

 

What he's done has taken true strength. It's not the soundbite shit that the Tories are peddling along with somehow being stable, when we can clearly see that they're not.

 

Are you voting this time? I seem to recall you haven't bothered recently, or have I got that wrong?

[elvis]

RedKnight, mate, I just can't bring myself to get optimistic. Credit to Corbyn, he's fought a hell of a campaign and I think it's admirable how he's galvanised the youth in this country, but we're dealing with a vast section of this society who've been weaned on a diet of cuntery, spun by five billionaires, for fucking ages. The nuke question summed it up, because it took (I'd guess) the youngest person who spoke about on it to point out the illogicality of the question. My generation, the under 30s, simply aren't arsed about that sort of stuff, or Corbyn having a brew with Gerry Adams, when our jobs are insecure, our wages are shite and we're struggling to get on the property ladder.

 

Unfortunately, it's the oldies and the ignorant who decide these sort of things. I've long since learned that social media (I only use Facebook, in fairness) is useless at times like this because it's an echo chamber. The vast majority of my mates are politically engaged and voting Labour. As I messaged my mate earlier this week when Corbyn came out of the debate looking well and the Tories were on the ropes, the big question is: What were the viewing figures for Britain's Got Talent on the other side and how many have already swallowed the 'strong and stable' crap without a single critical thought?

 

The biggest mistake Labour could make is if they abandon this current path. Unfortunately, given the PLP are mostly a gang of dicks, I could see Chuka and Hilary Benn using a defeat to go back to a centre-right Labour and undo all of this good work.

 

 

Agree with all of this , if it weren't for the promise of the clued up youth in britain i would totally despair - other than a few close friends and family members i cant remember the last time i spoke to a decent socialist , or someone who wasn't a closet racist or total bell-end 

 

So fucking  depressing 

[Red Phoenix]

Are you voting this time? I seem to recall you haven't bothered recently, or have I got that wrong?

Already voted for the first time by post. I explained here why I voted Green :

 

Postal vote arrived so have finally voted for the first time in my life (Green.) Would've maybe voted for Corbyn/Labour, but not voting for a party that isn't my favourite when it's the first time I've ever done so. I also have several issues with Labour but will spare you the rant. Hope Corbyn wins though obviously.

[elvis]

Boris speaking in Latin on Newsnight.

 

Fucking weapon.

 

Isn't it fucking incredible that a cunt like him and his cunty mates  so far removed from a working class person in the uk , can be voted for  by the same said working class person . what the fuck is going on ?

[RedKnight]

Already voted for the first time by post. I explained here why I voted Green :

 

 

How old are you? How come you've never voted before? I find it a bit rich that you're so politically outspoken and yet have never once tried to influence the result. I'm not having a pop, I'm genuinely interested and perplexed.

[Creator Supreme]

Agree with all of this , if it weren't for the promise of the clued up youth in britain i would totally despair - other than a few close friends and family members i cant remember the last time i spoke to a decent socialist , or someone who wasn't a closet racist or total bell-end

 

So fucking depressing

I get that a lot in work, I might be the only socialist left in there!

[Anubis]

Times columnist and Soames seem to think we're North Korea.

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Boris on the coke or something tonight?

 

Utter cunt of a specimen.

 

https://mobile.twitter.com/Limitless_Josh/status/870763538700218371/video/1

[Pureblood]

Your cousin is a fucking cunt.

 

Politically, yes I would totally agree.  100% cunt.  I don't know if politics defines someone, but it's definitely important.  Another view would be she's given her life to the NHS and helped a lot of people, when you put politics aside.  

 

In her defence (I know it's inexcusable, really) it is the norm in this part of the world, especially for her age group.  There will be lots like her. I have come to accept it living in a Tory heartland.  I've met about six people in as many years who don't fit the Tory stereotype and two of them were Remmie and Dynamite off here (not that I know how they vote but I'd take a wild guess).  

[Creator Supreme]

Nicholas Soames is almost as big a cunt as his grandfather!

[Red Phoenix]

How old are you? How come you've never voted before? I find it a bit rich that you're so politically outspoken and yet have never once tried to influence the result. I'm not having a pop, I'm genuinely interested and perplexed.

 

I'm 38. I've gone from often not giving a shit about politics up until I was around 32, to gradually being more interested in anarchism, then moving to supporting the Greens. The Greens as a whole are aligned with certain aspects of anarchism a lot more than any other party of their size or bigger, and I consider my views a mixture of both.