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Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?


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  1. 1. Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?



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4 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I make an inoffensive and innocuous post and bang on time come tweedldum and tweedledee. 

Stop crying will you. Everyone takes the piss out of each other on here. Its nothing personal you fucking halibut. 

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1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Another down side of europe, rubbish beer,  give me good ol British pub beer anyday, invented here, brewed here and served here,  you can do a lot worse than Carling black label, John Smith's or a nice pint of Stella Artois.

I thought it was funny, anyway. 

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1 minute ago, Stickman said:

I see Ian Austin, and John Woodcock (a man who resigned from Labour when an allegation of sexual harassment was taking place) are to be made Lords .

I wonder why Boris saw fit to bestow such an honour on to them ...

 

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Just saw the list. As per, it's a who's who of total and utter cunts.

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1 hour ago, Stickman said:

I see Ian Austin, and John Woodcock (a man who resigned from Labour when an allegation of sexual harassment was taking place) are to be made Lords .

I wonder why Boris saw fit to bestow such an honour on to them ...

 

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I'd never tire of kicking those two cunts in the bollocks! They'd both have to grow a pair first like!

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On 05/07/2020 at 11:50, Dougie Do'ins said:

I like Carling. There's fuck all wrong with it.

Mate of mine has a pub and has Carling on tap there. Was in it last year and I was a bit apprehensive about having a pint given what I read in here but tbh I thought it was nice. 

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My brother showed me this article, last night, and it was the first time I've ever seen it.

 

@sir roger has made the point that Corbyn should have been hitting his personal biography more strongly, as he's a likable fellow. Reading this I couldn't agree more; this article should have been his stump speech.

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jeremy-corbyn-met-third-wife-6480316

 

 
 

Jeremy Corbyn met third wife Laura Alvarez while helping with search for her abducted niece

The Labour leader met his human rights lawyer wife through Tony Benn, and he promised to help with the case

 
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Corbyn and wife Laura Alvarez
Love story: Corbyn and wife Laura Alvarez met under unusual circumstances
 

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Jeremy Corbyn met his wife Laura Alvarez while helping in a four-year search for her abducted niece, it has been revealed.

The notoriously private Labour leader has never spoken about his 2012 marriage to the Mexican human rights lawyer- but the fascinating background to their union has now emerged.

 

Laura's older sister Marcela told the Mail on Sunday that she introduced the pair when Laura arrived in the UK from Mexico in 1999.

Marcela said that her estranged husband Edguardo had fled the UK with their daughter Jasmin after a custody battle, and Laura flew over to help.

 

Marcela met Corbyn through veteran left winger Tony Benn and he promised to help with the case.

They met again a short time later at a fundraiser at a pub in Finsbury Park, where Marcela introduced them.

 

She said: "I was with my sister and I introduced them.

"That is how their relationship began."

 
Laura Alvarez, wife of Jeremy Corbyn, claps after he was announced as the new leader of the Labour Party
Adoration: Laura claps after her husband was announced as the new leader of the Labour Party 

Corbyn reportedly contacted West Sussex Police, who were investigating the Jasmin's disappearance and began accompanying the sisters to meetings regarding the case.

Jasmin was eventually discovered living in the United States and was re-united with her mother in 2003.

Laura then returned to Mexico City to study law but Corbyn kept in touch.

According to Marcela they "maintained a long-distance relationship for years".

And she explained that Laura and Corbyn married at a theme park outside Mexico City before his new wife moved to London to be with him in 2012.

Corbyn has been married twice before.

 
The new leader of Britain's opposition Labour Party Jeremy Corbyn gestures as he aknowledges applause after addressing the Trade Union Congress (TUC) in Brighton in southern England, September 15, 2015
Private: Corbyn is notoriously guarded about his personal life 

In 1974 he married Jane Chapman, a then-fellow Labour Councillor for Haringey and a university lecturer.

The couple later divorced in 1979.

 

In 1987, Corbyn married Chilean-born Claudia Bracchitta, granddaughter of famous diplomat Ricardo Bracchitta, by whom Corbyn has three sons.

 

They also divorced in 1999, although Corbyn said in an interview with the Guardian this year that he continues to "get on very well" with his former wife.

 
 
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If you're in Corbyn's press office, how do you not lead with that story every single day?

 

Get Brexit done? He's a lying posh boy twat; when Corbyn was saving a random constituent's daughter from being kidnapped, this cunt was selling his mayoral office to the highest bidder while shagging behind his cancer ridden wife's back.

 

If he doesn't think twice about fucking them over, what do you think him and his arsehole oxbridge twats will do to you?

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28 minutes ago, Numero said:

I honestly don't think that's as big of a vote winning as you think, Kev. 'Why is Corbyn dealing with one person when the entire nation is on the knife-edge'. It's very easy to start pushing back against by the Tory HQ. 

 

Not necessarily a vote getter. 

 

It goes to giving him a different personal narrative, that people can admire.

 

Solid, legitimate push back against the idea that he's some effeminate tree hugger, who is lounging it up with terrorists while a man like Boris faces down criminals, because he's not restricted by all this PC bollocks, which real men like you and I know is a load of shite.

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Kevin D said:

 

Not necessarily a vote getter. 

 

It goes to giving him a different personal narrative, that people can admire.

 

Solid, legitimate push back against the idea that he's some effeminate tree hugger, who is lounging it up with terrorists while a man like Boris faces down criminals, because he's not restricted by all this PC bollocks, which real men like you and I know is a load of shite.

 

I totally see your point, on a personally level (well, on pretty much all levels) his communications team were absolutely fucking SHIT. They were up against it, as will every Labour leader be - Miliband had much of the same shit going on - but they really allowed that shit to get away from them. The antisemitism, the fence sitting, the terrorist meetings, the allotment loving narratives all flourished without my push back. I actually hated voting this last time out, because I knew it was a total waste of time. Corbyn would have made a much better leader than Johnson, but it was never a reality in this vote. Between 2017 and 2019 elections, things had slipped from a narrow-ish loss but better than expected to a fucking catastrophe, partially of their own incompetence as a party (as a whole) and partly through outside influence. 

 

It sucks balls, but it's done. The irony of it all, I fucking hated David Miliband, I ripped him down as a Blairite piece of shit, his war record, his potential involvement in rendition, etc; but I'd bend over backwards for him to be PM now. That's how bad things have become. Some people are treating me as if I'm sort of Keir Starmer loyalist just because I'm not falling over myself to accept illogical bullshit and twisting of events to throw shit at him. No, I'm an anti-Tory voter who wants somebody that might have a chance of winning. 

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31 minutes ago, Numero said:

 

I totally see your point, on a personally level (well, on pretty much all levels) his communications team were absolutely fucking SHIT. They were up against it, as will every Labour leader be - Miliband had much of the same shit going on - but they really allowed that shit to get away from them. The antisemitism, the fence sitting, the terrorist meetings, the allotment loving narratives all flourished without my push back. I actually hated voting this last time out, because I knew it was a total waste of time. Corbyn would have made a much better leader than Johnson, but it was never a reality in this vote. Between 2017 and 2019 elections, things had slipped from a narrow-ish loss but better than expected to a fucking catastrophe, partially of their own incompetence as a party (as a whole) and partly through outside influence. 

 

It sucks balls, but it's done. The irony of it all, I fucking hated David Miliband, I ripped him down as a Blairite piece of shit, his war record, his potential involvement in rendition, etc; but I'd bend over backwards for him to be PM now. That's how bad things have become. Some people are treating me as if I'm sort of Keir Starmer loyalist just because I'm not falling over myself to accept illogical bullshit and twisting of events to throw shit at him. No, I'm an anti-Tory voter who wants somebody that might have a chance of winning. 

 

That's where I am. There's an element of bloody mindedness to it and I freely admit that. Even when I had concerns over Corbyn I'd defend him against attacks I thought were unjustified, of which there were many, and for a time that resulted in me supporting him even more because I felt he was an underdog who was getting unfairly treated. 

 

The irony is, that's how I felt about Starmer when he was elected. There'd been ZERO attacks on him from any factions of the party until he decided to run against Long Bailey, and the attacks were ridiculous, ranging from him being a Sir, to some seriously ropey, conspiratorial stuff. This is the big irony for me, that some of the people attacking the man spent a good portion of the last few years bemoaning unjustified attacks on Corbyn. 

 

The party needs to unite. Due to the havoc wrought by Thatcher, much like the Democrats there simply aren't the troop numbers to reconstitute a truly, exclusively left wing/working class Labour support. It has to become a party of 'everyone but the Tories'. A lot of Corbyn followers' messaging would have scared a lot of people in those various camps off. 

 

Scotland is pretty much gone,  that's 50-odd MPs lost to Labour, I think Wales is salvageable and the North will come roaring back once Brexit is done, one way or the other. Johnson has a 'unique' appeal that won't be transferred to someone like Raab or Patel or whichever halfwit follows. Someone like Starmer has to unite the North, plus the Lib Dems, the Greens, and a very, very sizable portion of people who've voted Tory. New money Barrett House man and Captain Mainwaring both. The Tories have and will become the party of the oligarch and media baron with a brownshirt army of racist white van man cockneys who love Alan Sugar. But that's beatable. 

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I really hope the latter part of your last paragraph comes to fruition. But it's really worrying how many people think Johnson is doing a good job now. It seems to point at requiring Brexit to basically wipe out half the economy for a sufficient amount of people to switch sides.

 

They are doing an unbelievably bad job of dealing with the pandemic. Almost everything they have done has been too late, not decisive enough, or absolutely fucking mad, and yet there are still loads of people saying "HE'S GIVEN US SOME MONEY TO STAY HOME". Like it's come out of his wallet.

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22 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

I really hope the latter part of your last paragraph comes to fruition. But it's really worrying how many people think Johnson is doing a good job now. It seems to point at requiring Brexit to basically wipe out half the economy for a sufficient amount of people to switch sides.

 

They are doing an unbelievably bad job of dealing with the pandemic. Almost everything they have done has been too late, not decisive enough, or absolutely fucking mad, and yet there are still loads of people saying "HE'S GIVEN US SOME MONEY TO STAY HOME". Like it's come out of his wallet.


Easy to manipulate the message...


‘Those nasty Europeans ganged up against us to ruin the British economy. Vote Tory to save us from labour forcing us into trading with them on disadvantageous terms’

 

It’ll be swallowed, like most of the shit they pump out because people don’t remember yesterday, let alone last week. 
 

The only hope is that Alex and the band of bastards become so toxic with infighting that they destroy themselves. 

 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

I really hope the latter part of your last paragraph comes to fruition. But it's really worrying how many people think Johnson is doing a good job now. It seems to point at requiring Brexit to basically wipe out half the economy for a sufficient amount of people to switch sides.

 

They are doing an unbelievably bad job of dealing with the pandemic. Almost everything they have done has been too late, not decisive enough, or absolutely fucking mad, and yet there are still loads of people saying "HE'S GIVEN US SOME MONEY TO STAY HOME". Like it's come out of his wallet.

I think the clue maybe in your last sentence, wait till the hangover kicks in.

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