Gegenpressing

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

I got fucked into it.

 

Cunt word.

It was the presser you were under.

[TheHowieLama]

Might not have been gegenpressed into it - surely was gegen pressed a few times while in it.

[Section_31]

Why do Germans always nick concepts that already exist and then give it a made up, German sounding name?

 

What next, the German concept of defenderbergen, which translates as 'trying to stop the opposition scoring'

 

Perhaps they can educate us on the radical concept of throwinhousen too, by where a player throws the ball from the touchline.

[VladimirIlyich]

[Carvalho Diablo]

Gottle o geer

 

[G Richards]

I'm scared now! I vaguely remember watching that film as a youngster.

[Jose Jones]

Gottle o geer

 

Hopkins' best acting performance that film.

[KopOut]

I think we need to be very wary of ''gegenpressing' and to what degree we use it.

 

One of the issues that must be overcome, is a tendency to 'reach the gegenprecipice'. When this happens, there is a danger that the whole team including the goalie could go over the edge.......and THAT becomes quite ineffective as a tactic.

 

Love that word. Goalie. Gives me pleasant shivers.

[Rotpeter]

Gegenpressing translates to "against-pressing", but it actually means counter-pressing. Instead of pressing the opponent's buildup play, you press their counter-attacks.

 

Everyone has to do it and the defensive line has to be high instead of deep. Hopefully this means the end of Skrtel. Of course he'll have to adapt it, but the basic principles are sound and should be done far more in British football. 

Any kind of team pressing requires the team to be compact and Skrtel was quite adept at that in the Rafa days.  Helped having Reina behind of course.  

 

I think like a few players skrtel will be improved by having an actual plan for defending.  Even Lovren, in a team compact enough for there to be someone close by to mop up his mistakes, may rise to the heady heights of being merely crap.

[Ranxerox]

I just want us to start playing with energy and passion again. I hate buzz words like tikky-takka and already find all the gegenpressing references annoying. 

[Rotpeter]

Ah fuck, the British press have concerns about Klopp's ability to implement a tactical shift without having a winter break, I hope somebody has told Klopp about it or we'll be fucked.

 

Interestingly I can't see us playing this way without a high energy dm and at least one quick cb but Dortmund had Kehl  at DM and Hummels and Subotic aren't the quickest, are they?

 

  

Don't forget we implemented the high line with Carragher and Hyypia both of whom we're pretty slow.  And our DM was Alonso who by his own admission was the slowest player at the club.  Just shows, if you set it up right, you can work around that.  

[VladimirIlyich]

I just want us to start playing with energy and passion again. I hate buzz words like tikky-takka and already find all the gegenpressing references annoying.

Totally agree.

Top managers adapt and change so I hope Klopp surprises all these 'experts' in the media and changes things a bit.

[El Dangerous]

Hopkins' best acting performance that film.

 

He was a little bit wooden for me..

[VERBAL DIARRHEA]

He was a little bit wooden for me..

To be fair Keanu Reeves looks young there with Anthony Hopkins.

[El Dangerous]

I saw Joe Cole stuffing a load of sausage roll's in his mouth the other day, he was Greggsingesting.

[xerxes]

After the aimlessness of Brendan's tactics, anything coherent will do for me, particularly if it stops the opposition scoring so many goals.

[Hades]

After the aimlessness of Brendan's tactics, anything coherent will do for me, particularly if it stops the opposition scoring so many goals.

Whoa, whoa, whoa slow down there buddy. You mean, we're actually allowed to use tactics to try and win a game? Are you sure that's not against the rules?

[Section_31]

I just want us to start playing with energy and passion again. I hate buzz words like tikky-takka and already find all the gegenpressing references annoying. 

 

It's a load of bollocks. Football really is a very, very simple game. 

 

There's only so many permutations a game involving 22 blokes with a ball on grass that's been around for over 150 years can involve. 

[Hades]

It's a load of bollocks. Football really is a very, very simple game. 

 

There's only so many permutations a game involving 22 blokes with a ball on grass that's been around for over 150 years can involve. 

 

Your second sentence disproves your first. Trying to get 11 people to move in total organisation and awareness of each other's patterns while 11 others are doing the same is hardly easy, is it?

[Section_31]

Your second sentence disproves your first. Trying to get 11 people to move in total organisation and awareness of each other's patterns while 11 others are doing the same is hardly easy, is it?

It's been done quite regularly for over a hundred years and spectacularly well over the last few decades, far better than it is now.

 

Fashions come and go. There was the dubious flirtation with 5-3-2 and wing backs in the 90s, false 9s, one in the hole, yet when it hits the fan everyone reverts to 442 with two up top, because it works.

[TheHowieLama]

[El Dangerous]

Luis Enrique told them to go out there and do their best and just make sure they give the ball to Messi. Simples.

[RoboRiise]

It's been done quite regularly for over a hundred years and spectacularly well over the last few decades, far better than it is now.

 

Fashions come and go. There was the dubious flirtation with 5-3-2 and wing backs in the 90s, false 9s, one in the hole, yet when it hits the fan everyone reverts to 442 with two up top, because it works.

 

A far wiser man than me had a little to say about the topic:

 

Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass.  It is terribly simple.

 

Or if you prefer:

 

If you're not sure what to do with the ball, just pop it in the net and we'll discuss your options afterwards.

 

No mater how many different ways hipster coaches come up with to try to achieve the aims stated in the first quote, the reason it is legendary is that it genuinely summarises the game's entire tactical canon in one sentence.  It did when he said it and it still does now.

[TheHowieLama]

Wanted to have a nice cup of coffee, you know fresh ground stuff - used my gegenpresser.

[El Dangerous]

Went to go and watch a shit lower league football match Dagegen and Redbridge vs Gegenpresston North End.