Summer 2013 Transfer Thread

[Trucker Paddy]

 

It tells me they bought some really good players in the summer. There's a very real chance they'll finish in a lower position and with less points than last year btw.

 

And a trophy in the bag.

[moof]

And a trophy in the bag.

 

Which doesn't prove they're a better team. We won more than Man Utd last season, after all.

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

He's 23, that's Nigerian young, should he not have had a head start given the manager knew him so well? Swansea are a better team without Sinclair and Allen this season, what does that tell you?

 

They have EXACTLY the same amount of points at the same point last season. Hmn. I wouldn't go mad about their improvement. It tells me they've bought new players, yet haven't improved the amount of points they've got. Maybe if they'd got new players and kept Sinclair and Allen they might have had more points. Your insinuation that those players actually made them worse and getting their bodies out of the club actually improved it is fucking pathetic.

[Trucker Paddy]

 

Which doesn't prove they're a better team. We won more than Man Utd last season' date=' after all.[/quote']

 

Swansea like us were guilty of switching off after league cup final, before the final truth be known, they are much better than last season, it's very naive to say they aren't. Sinclair is a very average player, and a very stupid young lad to move to city last year, he'll never be good enough for a team that has aspersions of CL football

[dirk grout]

The latest thing this forum has taught me is that winning trophies is not a sign of improvement. If a team wins a trophy it is merely a random occurrence.

[moof]

The latest thing this forum has taught me is that winning trophies is not a sign of improvement. If a team wins a trophy it is merely a random occurrence.

 

When we won the champions league in 2005 were we the best team in Europe?

[LFC 6 Times]

Would take a punt on ben Arfa, in the right set up he can be superb, has that extra bit of flair Downing sorely lacks.

[moof]

Would take a punt on ben Arfa, in the right set up he can be superb, has that extra bit of flair Downing sorely lacks.

 

Agreed, think he'd be great. Isn't he a bit injury prone and a bit of a cunt, though?

[MLB]

We won't be selling Downing and I definitely don't see us signing Ben Arfa. We might go for Ince again if he's cheap enough. Eriksen and Mertens will probably have better offers, unfortunately.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if we moved for Gameiro because he is versatile and Rodgers appears to be a fan.

[dirk grout]

When we won the champions league in 2005 were we the best team in Europe?

 

What the fuck has that got to do with the price of fish??!!!

[moof]

What the fuck has that got to do with the price of fish??!!!

 

Often the team that wins isn't the team you'd expect to win. Winning shit is the best thing you can do in football, the point of the game is to win trophies. But winning one trophy in isolation doesn't make you a great team. We won the biggest trophy in the world in 2005 yet were only the 5th best team in England over a 38 game league season.

[fowler9]

we could do worse than Sinclair but also do better as well imo

 

I think he is the sort who is better when he is one of the main men in the team to be honest rather than improving in a better side

[Pidge]

Sinclair's not anywhere near good enough. Weren't 7 of his goals last year pens? not good enough when he's not a creative player.

 

Would massively prefer Ince tbh.

[Guest LFD]

I think Ince could be a shrewd buy for the right price.

[rainman]

Don't want his dad

[TheHowieLama]

Isn't he a bit injury prone and a bit of a cunt, though?

 

Yes, he should fit right in.

[moof]

Sinclair is far superior to ince. And probably cheaper.

[Pidge]

Based on what? He's been shite in the top flight and Ince has been every bit as good (at least) in the Championship. For me Ince is a much more versatile player and actually creates as many chances as he scores, which Sinclair doesn't.

[dirk grout]

Often the team that wins isn't the team you'd expect to win. Winning shit is the best thing you can do in football, the point of the game is to win trophies. But winning one trophy in isolation doesn't make you a great team. We won the biggest trophy in the world in 2005 yet were only the 5th best team in England over a 38 game league season.

 

As I said before, what the fuck has this shit got to do with anything? Who said Swansea were a great team? The point me and trucker paddy were making is that it is absolutely clear that swansea are a better team than last season. They won the league cup beating us at anfield and chelsea over 2 legs. You and numero argumentative think that the amount of points they have in the league is a better indicator of their improvement, despite the fact that they were playing reserve sides leading up to the cup final.

[Garrincha]

I think Ince could be a shrewd buy for the right price.

 

Whats the right price though?

[Trucker Paddy]

Based on what?.

 

Ah Pidge do you really need to ask that question ;)

[jsims]

Sinclair's not anywhere near good enough. Weren't 7 of his goals last year pens? not good enough when he's not a creative player.

 

Would massively prefer Ince tbh.

 

Yea if its between the two id take ince

 

Sinclair is a bit shit, been at a few clubs only had one "decent season" plus will be rusty aving not played with confidence low

 

Ince is younger, hungry, more versatlie as podge said. Still not great but more to is game than sinclair

Edited May 3, 2013 by jsims

[Guest Numero Veinticinco]

As I said before, what the fuck has this shit got to do with anything? Who said Swansea were a great team? The point me and trucker paddy were making is that it is absolutely clear that swansea are a better team than last season. They won the league cup beating us at anfield and chelsea over 2 legs. You and numero argumentative think that the amount of points they have in the league is a better indicator of their improvement, despite the fact that they were playing reserve sides leading up to the cup final.

 

I'm not sure pointing out that a league season is a better indicator of a team's quality is argumentative than a league cup run. It's more common sense. I think Swansea managed to get some good players through the door last summer, but that's not what I was debating. It was this ludicrous notion that Allen and Sinclair are so debilitatingly shit that they've improved just by the sheer act of getting rid of them. Like they were some how a massive hinderance to the team.

 

Michu has made a big difference, or he was. I'd wager they'd have done better if they had a deeper squad of players, with Allen and Sinclair in there. Still, that's just an opinion. A common sense, blatantly obvious opinion. Anyway, I don't want Sinclair. I want players who are able to contribute significantly in attacking areas on a consistent basis.

[Captain]

Winning the league doesn't necessarily make you the best team. It makes you the most consistent team.

[ChrisM]

Which is the best team.