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Truth hurts.

Downing gets dogs abuse on here, but he's a better player than Borini. Yet Fabio get's a free pass even though he's been 100% ineffective in every game he played. Why is that?

Keep Henderson, get rid of Allen. Obviously keep both if we don't bring another midfielder in, but if it's a choice between the aforementioned....Henderson every single time.

It's not brown, it's tawny.

Getting rid of players the moment they are unhappy is what we've done for years Section. We'll end up selling Suarez because he wants out, as we did Mascherano, Alonso, Torres, Arbeloa etc. Were too nice as a club, we just let players leave without any serious fight. What your suggesting is exactly what Souness was slaughtered for, allowing McMahon and Beardsley to leave because they had the arrogance to want out. It's either the "how dare they want to leave a club like liverpool, get rid of them" or it's "well it is Barcelona / Real Madrid / Chelsea.....soon to be / Arsenal we can't stop them from leaving" angle. The club need to grow a pair of bollocks for once and do the exact opposite of what your suggesting. Say shut up to Suarez and tell Arsenal the answer is no regardless of the money involved.

Great post that, Dave.

If we sell Suarez for 55 million to Arsenal, whilst sorting out deals for Soldado, Eriksen and Bernard behind the scenes, it might improve us. That'll be the biggest transfer fee any club will get for Suarez as he will only agitate for a move abroad in a couple of seasons anyway. That's some serious money being offered for one player and can be spread around a number of positions to strengthen us. You have to remember Suarez's disciplinary record and his mental disposition as well when you cater that into the equation, you'd have to consider letting him go.

I haven't even mentally acknowledged that Arsenal are even a serious contender for his signature, thats how ludicrous these bids are. The 1 pound extra just shows exactly the kind of bullshit that's going down. It'll go up in 10,000 pound increments from now on, just create a software that instantly sends Arsenal a rejection letter after every lodged bid, it'll save time.

Moyes is a good manager, but he's not good enough to mimic Ferguson, he won't keep the media at bay as Ferguson did and he will never garner the respect of that squad like Ferguson had. His two main mistakes thus far are the hiring of the Everton back room staff and aiming too high with his transfer targets. Thiago was more their level, but the Fabregas / Modric interest is going nowhere. He'll fail to attract those types of players which will have a negative effect on other potential targets because they'll see players rejecting the club.

Jsims thinks that FSG hired Commoli to do whatever he wanted, and Commoli and Kenny decided to buzz off them by signing "a load of shite" whilst secretly pissing themselves laughing as FSG gave the all clear.

You talkin to me?

FSG are more to blame than anyone for those signings, they were the ones that wanted to implement moneyball into the premier league, so they hired their stats man (Commoli) after listening to the advice from Billy Beane. They told Commoli to find value in the market, so he looked through all the stats and pulled out those players because statistically they were undervalued. Downing because he crossed the most, Henderson because he created the most chances of any young player, Adam for his chance creation stats and assists, Suarez for his goals and Enrique because he was the most defensively solid left back in the league statistically. FSG wanted to try this strategy, thats why they lost all their money, because money ball means nothing in football.

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