Shitty Job References

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

Hi folks,

 

this is my Simonlfc moment, in which I display my total ignorance of the said subject (Simon, feel free to offer advice):

 

I've just got a new job after a couple of years of temping; the problem is the agency I originally worked through is now refusing to say that I worked for them.

 

Here's the story: I worked permanently for the organisation only for a few months after leaving the shit agency that originally recruited me for them, after the agency kept fucking up my wages.(let's call the agency 'C***TA liars'.com);

 

I joined another agency for a couple of weeks (who are great) but then took a 4 week sabbatical - basically living off my savings until my girlfriend got sick of me being at home improving my xbox skills.

 

The organisation, my last employers, have timesheets prooving I worked for them via/ and they were paying the C***TA liars; but the new employers are quite rightly concerned they don't have the references.

 

If the lying piece of shit agency refuse to give a reference and I lose the job - do you reckon I have recourse to anything?

 

ps - I've no bad marks etc against me and a clear CRB etc

 

Please excuse my English - I just got in and found this email.

 

sorry folks this makes little sense to me as well

Edited October 8, 2009 by Jarvinja Ilnow
didnt realise how pissed I was

[sir roger]

I don't think they have any legal requirement to provide references , but it all seems a bit odd.

 

Coming at it from a different angle , do you not have wage slips or credit entries on your bank statement which could prove you were there to your new employers

[captainharris]

Or what about the organisations you were working for/temping in, won't they be able to give you written references?

[Anubis]

There is no legal requirement for them to give you a reference, merely a requirement that if they do so it is accurate. As someone else said, wouldn't the references be better coming from the places you worked rather than an agency.

[RoboRiise]

There is no legal requirement to provide a reference. If your new employer wants an actual reference (i.e. some comment on the quality of your work and so on) you can't force your previous employer to provide one.

 

If they merely want independent corroboration that you worked for the company for the period that you said you did, try dropping the tax office a line, including your National Insurance number, date of birth and your current employer's full name and head office address and ask them to provide you with a letter setting out their records of your employers, pay and tax for the relevant tax years.

 

They'll do it for you no problem, the only issue is that at the moment there are backlogs of work following the introduction of a new computer system so it's unlikely that it would be a speedy process. I'm talking about several weeks here, not days, although you could at least explain that to your employer. Since they have to deal with the tax office as well, they'll probably be used to it...

[Fugitive]

Does the company name show up on your Bank Statements during the period you worked for them?

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

thanks for the replies - I'm hoping the organisation I was temping for will provide a reference, and potentially for the times I was working via the agency. I'm just so fucked off right now as the agency is shit and they got more work off the efforts I did put in there.

 

Scouse Missionary - ta, it seems like I can't rely on them to do the right thing - I made a complaint about one of their staff when I didn't get paid for 6 weeks over Xmas/ New Year so I'm not flavour of the month. I worked for the agency for about 9 years until the Spurs supporting yuppie bastard took over as my rep.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

I do have some statements with the agency payroll, but just supplying that isn't enough, when you work in a field that needs CRBs etc. I may not get this job because of them but the fact that they are lying in saying that I never worked for them, should at least give me grounds for some action

 

the main point is someone saying I never even worked for them!

[Anubis]

I hope it works out for you given the current climate.

[Jarvinja Ilnow]

Thanks SM - strangely, the organisation I worked for have offered me some pieces of work whilst this is going on - but their goodwill is only going to last so long.

 

thanks to everyone for your advice.

[Liverpool lad]

This is quite annoying, I hate it when people are so petty and the consequences are so severe. I hope it works out for you

[JMARKH]

Hi folks,

 

this is my Simonlfc moment, in which I display my total ignorance of the said subject (Simon, feel free to offer advice):

 

I've just got a new job after a couple of years of temping; the problem is the agency I originally worked through is now refusing to say that I worked for them.

 

Here's the story: I worked permanently for the organisation only for a few months after leaving the shit agency that originally recruited me for them, after the agency kept fucking up my wages.(let's call the agency 'C***TA liars'.com);

 

I joined another agency for a couple of weeks (who are great) but then took a 4 week sabbatical - basically living off my savings until my girlfriend got sick of me being at home improving my xbox skills.

 

The organisation, my last employers, have timesheets prooving I worked for them via/ and they were paying the C***TA liars; but the new employers are quite rightly concerned they don't have the references.

 

If the lying piece of shit agency refuse to give a reference and I lose the job - do you reckon I have recourse to anything?

 

ps - I've no bad marks etc against me and a clear CRB etc

 

Please excuse my English - I just got in and found this email.

 

sorry folks this makes little sense to me as well

 

Hope it works out alright mate, the agency sound like cunts. I went for a job interview yesterday and was told I had the job but got a call from job centre today saying I had to do a work trial first as part of a new deal thing, I have had a few minor skirmishes with the law as well in the past and have just remembered about the CRB thing as well after seeing your post, I hope it doesn't work against us being stupid when I was drunk in the past. Need to get back into work!

[captainharris]

Hope it works out alright mate, the agency sound like cunts. I went for a job interview yesterday and was told I had the job but got a call from job centre today saying I had to do a work trial first as part of a new deal thing, I have had a few minor skirmishes with the law as well in the past and have just remembered about the CRB thing as well after seeing your post, I hope it doesn't work against us being stupid when I was drunk in the past. Need to get back into work!

 

CRB checks should never really go against you unless you pose some kind of risk. Having a charge for drunk and disordely or criminal damage isn't really going to have and affect on your chances. If you're on the sex offenders register and you want to be a classroom assistant is when they really count.

 

Obviously it all depends on the crime and the job you're going for.. but smaller convictions won't make a difference to 99% of employers I wouldn't have thought.

[Stu Monty]

CRB checks should never really go against you unless you pose some kind of risk. Having a charge for drunk and disordely or criminal damage isn't really going to have and affect on your chances. If you're on the sex offenders register and you want to be a classroom assistant is when they really count.

 

Obviously it all depends on the crime and the job you're going for.. but smaller convictions won't make a difference to 99% of employers I wouldn't have thought.

 

It's PC gaawn mad, I tells ya.

[JMARKH]

CRB checks should never really go against you unless you pose some kind of risk. Having a charge for drunk and disordely or criminal damage isn't really going to have and affect on your chances. If you're on the sex offenders register and you want to be a classroom assistant is when they really count.

 

Obviously it all depends on the crime and the job you're going for.. but smaller convictions won't make a difference to 99% of employers I wouldn't have thought.

 

Ye my mate who give me one of my references said pretty much the same thing. The job is Admin work for a company who help people who have learning disabilities and are a bit vulnerable. My arrests have been for drunk and disorderly and taking my mum and dads car which was over ten years ago and the worst one. I have grown up since then though so hopefully it will be fine, cheers mate.

[RoboRiise]

CRB checks should never really go against you unless you pose some kind of risk. Having a charge for drunk and disordely or criminal damage isn't really going to have and affect on your chances. If you're on the sex offenders register and you want to be a classroom assistant is when they really count.

 

Obviously it all depends on the crime and the job you're going for.. but smaller convictions won't make a difference to 99% of employers I wouldn't have thought.

 

 

It's estimated that one fifth of the working population in the UK has a criminal conviction. As you say, it's not a barrier to employment in many jobs.