Thing you thought were normal until someone else found out and looked at you wierd!

[Guest Bootle_red]

I've got to have the volume on tellies, cd players etc on a multiple of five

I wash my hands before and after toileting

Went going for a shite, I have to check inside the loo roll for spiders!!!

 

Anyone got any more?

[TurnstileB]

Weirdo

[Strontium]

I was reading at the age of 3. Apparently this is unusual :dunno:

[Captain]

I keep my cds on the shelf in alphabetical order. This is way ott to most of my friends.

[Alan Sex]

I was reading at the age of 3. Apparently this is unusual :dunno:

 

 

me too - apparently I taught myself, and held the books upside down.

 

I had to sing in front of the whole school when I was 8 because I was amusing everyone around me by changing the words of the hymns to rude ones.

[Thants]

I like the smell of my ear wax. I've not tried anyone elses.

[Smiler907]

i used to switch the lights on and off three times before i used to go to bed when i lived at home,

 

fuck knows why, thank fuck i got out of it.

 

 

:yes:

[Guest Jay W]

What is normal?

 

I used to lock the front door, then unlock it then lock it again when going out to make sure it was locked...I stopped that when my mate slapped me round the head and called me a cunt..

 

When putting on clothes the left always goes on or in first, like left foot, arm ect..

 

I always have to check my kit or suitcase when going away about 3 times and I have to feel what I've packed to make sure it's in there...even then I still think I've forgot something

 

Went going for a shite, I have to check inside the loo roll for spiders!!!

 

That is normal in some countries not just specifically bog rolls, like when your out in Iraq and the jungles and stuff, Spiders love to hide in combat boots, the twats.....but seem as though we're in Engerland, that is pretty strange yes..

[Cath]

Looks like we need a OCD forum.

I'll let you into a secret. The world wont end/people you know won't die if you forget your routines for a day or two.

 

Now I'm off for a glass of water. Gotta fill it 3 times before I can drink it.

[Wig]

 

This is Howard Hughes, You all have somthing in common with him, If you have not seen the film 'the Aviator' i suggest yous all go and see it together. ;)

[gordon bennett]

Looks like we need a OCD forum.

 

Try this:

 

http://www.ocdaction.org.uk/ocdaction/index.asp

 

 

BTW, at least one of the current team has OCD (hygiene/handwashing). Good on him for publicising it.

 

[Big Ig]

me too - apparently I taught myself, and held the books upside down.

 

I had to sing in front of the whole school when I was 8 because I was amusing everyone around me by changing the words of the hymns to rude ones.

:D No surprise there!

 

Upside down reading eh? Cool!

 

Think I started at 2 1/2 to 3 too...

 

Porn mags, of course

[Original202]

I always have to check my kit or suitcase when going away about 3 times and I have to feel what I've packed to make sure it's in there...even then I still think I've forgot something

 

Ditto. I can never relax properly as I'm always conscious of whether I've lost my keys or wallet (You should have seen me in Istanbul checking to see if I still had my ticket on me every 30 seconds!), or if I forgot to lock the door or flush the toilet or close the window etc. Just things that are force of habit but because you do it so often, you don't actually remember doing it. I need to lighten up, but then if I do that, I'll walk out the house and leave the front door open and come home to find I've been burgled!

 

I also always switch back to BBC1 before I turn the telly off. I dunno why though. I think I'll live dangerously tonight and leave it on BBC2.

[Dirk]

I have to check the plugs lots of times before I can leave home, if the flat is empty before I leave. I've never thought it's normal, though. I also get lots of other peculiar OCD related symptoms:

 

I have to overcook meat/eggs because I get worried that I mightn't have cooked it properly and I worry that I will give myself or other people food poisoning.

 

I have lots of checking compulsions relating to health fears and fear of harm, such as the aformentioned plugs being left in and being afraid the flat will burn down.

 

I've been doing a bit of research into OCD, from both a personal and an academic viewpoint and scientists are beginning to perceive it as a heterogenous spectrum disorder rather than a homogenous disorder. That is, in different people, they have different symptoms which activate slightly different areas, so it isn't one definable illness because of such variation in the symptoms.

 

For instance, the insular cortex relates to the emotion of disgust and as a result it is involved in gustation, hence the word disgust. In OCD, people with contamination fears have an overactive insular cortex. The evolutionary hypothesis of gustation is such that scientists believed it evolved as a means to prevent animals from eating rotten food. I haven't yet done enough research to discover all the areas involved in each seperate symptom types and categories. OCD, according to figures is more common than asthma.

 

Lots of people have lots of peculiarities that appear to be OCD but aren't. OCD causes heightened anixety and the obsessions occur in spite of the patient's efforts to prevent them. Frightening thoughts emerge without consciously mulling over them at times. It's sort of like a jack in the box that pops into consciousness when one's not expecting it.

 

http://www.ocfoundation.org/

[Smiler907]

when i go to the footie, i also check thetickets are still in my pocket quite a few times, even if i am in the car and havent actually moved.

 

my mates a cunt, he knows this and will ask me if i still have the tickets and i will check my pocket again.

[Guest nushka]

Ditto. I can never relax properly as I'm always conscious of whether I've lost my keys or wallet (You should have seen me in Istanbul checking to see if I still had my ticket on me every 30 seconds!),

 

I'm constantly checking for my keys.

 

Driving to work one day I began to wonder where I had put the car keys. The were in the ignition, since the car won't actually drive without them.

:wallbutt:

[gordon bennett]

 

I've been doing a bit of research into OCD, from both a personal and an academic viewpoint and scientists are beginning to perceive it as a heterogenous spectrum disorder rather than a homogenous disorder. That is, in different people, they have different symptoms which activate slightly different areas, so it isn't one definable illness because of such variation in the symptoms.

 

 

An interesting line of research! What is your discipline & methodology?

 

How does the seratonin deficiency identified as a common feature of the OCD spectrum illnesses fit in with what you've learned?

 

Stevie G, Beckham, Gazza- why do so many top England midfielders suffer from OCD?

[Dirk]

An interesting line of research! What is your discipline & methodology?

 

How does the seratonin deficiency identified as a common feature of the OCD spectrum illnesses fit in with what you've learned?

 

Stevie G, Beckham, Gazza- why do so many top England midfielders suffer from OCD?

 

I'm a psychology student, the information I've learned is mainly from academic journals and some books that I used for self-help, Brain Lock by Jeffrey Schwarz was a particularly helpful self-help book.

 

I am not an expert and it'd be unfair for me to put myself forward as one. The serotonin hypothesis, I think, centres largely around the fact that OCD sufferers usually respond to serotinergic medications such as SSRI or tricylics like clomipramine. Because we respond to the treatment, coupled with the the knowledge of how we know these medications work, certain assumptions are made but the scientific community don't know for definite how it works. If a patient responds to the treatment then the diagnosis is usually correct.

 

 

I googled this to show you what I mean:

 

"Clomipramine is presumed to influence depression and obsessive and compulsive behaviour through its effects on serotonergic neurotransmission. The actual neurochemical mechanism is unknown, but clomipramine's capacity to inhibit serotonin reuptake is thought to be important."

 

However, I will add a bit of background knowledge to help clarify the position. Neurons communicate via neurochemicals, there is a gap between the terminal buttons of one synapse and the post synaptic neuron - I will find a suitable diagram to give a clearer picture. The neurochemical, be it dopamine, serotonin, acetylcholine or another neurotransmitter, is released at the terminal buttons into the gap (the synpatic cleft), three things can happen to the neurotransmitter, it can travel across the gap and bind with the post synpatic neuron and, depending on what type of chemical it is, it will excite or inhibit the post synaptic neuron; it can be cleaned from the synaptic cleft by a process of enzymatic degradation, an enzyme changes the shape of the neurotransmitter so it is no longer recognised by the post synaptic neuron - it is made impotent by the enzyme. Finally, reuptake may occur, the neurotransmitter can return to the neuron it was secreted from to be recycled.

 

 

 

 

A Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor works by preventing reuptake of serotonin into the terminal buttons, so the serotonin stays in the synaptic cleft (the gap) and thus it increases the chances that the serotonin will bind with the post synaptic neuron causing it to perform its desired role.

 

How the brain areas involved in OCD are known is by using scanning techniques such as a PET (Positron Emission Tomography) or fMRI (Functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging). A pet scan measures the metabolic activity of a particular brain area and an fMRI scanner measure blood oxygenation levels of a brain area. So, with a PET scan, a brain area that is overactive indicates it has a higher metabolic rate. With an fMRI scanner it will show an overactive neural body as consuming more oxygen. It stands to reason that oxygen and glucose are required for aerobic output and both scanners measure these in relation to neural activity. I know the basal ganglia are implicated in OCD, as well as the insular cortex in washing/contamination compulsions. It would take me a while to explain this and I can't be arsed as it's boling hot and I'm lazy. :D

 

The way they measure the presence of neurochemicals is usually done using staining techniques. This can only be done after death. They add a dye that only certain chemicals will bind to and from the results they can detect its presence.

 

http://hope4ocd.com/foursteps.php

[Remmie]

The evolutionary hypothesis of gustation is such that scientists believed it evolved as a means to prevent animals from eating rotten food.

I cant believe you used the e word. Wait until Tom finds out

[bri]

i love that feeling between the 3rd and 4th pint. I then spend the rest of the night trying to get back to that point. it a reacurring problem

[Thants]

i love that feeling between the 3rd and 4th pint. I then spend the rest of the night trying to get back to that point. it a reacurring problem

Amen.

[redrosetints]

I dont do any of these things, which in turn now makes me feel like Im abnormal.

[GUS]

Surely I am not the only one who has a 'ritual' when Liverpool are playing and I am not at the match? This was my ritual during the Treble season.

 

The Ritual goes exactly like this.

2.45pm Place Pepperoni pizza in warm oven.

2.55pm Light candle and place in middle of living room floor.

2.58pm Remove pizza from oven and make cup of coffee which is to be drunk from special Liverpool mug.

3.00pm Kick off time. Put football scores on ITV Teletext with sound muted. Sit down to eat pizza and drink coffee. Press play on Tangerine Dream Tangram CD.

3.20pm Place plate and mug in sink. Switch on iron. I will now do naked ironing until match finishes. Ironing jeans helps Liverpool to score. Ironing bed sheets helps them stay in the lead when they score first and yes I do iron my boxer shorts and socks.

3.40pm Tangerine Dream CD finishes. This is immediately replaced by a live recording of My Favourite Things by John Coltrane.

This was recorded in 1967 when Coltrane was at the height of his 'Free Jazz' period. Rashied Ali's drumming sounds like a claustrophobic man trying to hammer his way out of a locked wardrobe. Pianist Alice Coltrane makes Les Dawson sound like Liberace. Jimmy Garrison on Double Bass is totally inaudible apart from his riveting 8 min solo. Pharoah Sanders on sax honks like a demented goose and sqwauks like an epileptic budgie while John Coltrane also on sax attempts to play notes that only dogs can hear. So yes it is tremendous!

4.05pm This gets replaced (its 32 mins long) by Logos by Tangerine Dream. This is 50 mins long and finishes at 4.55pm when the match should finish allowing for 5 mins injury time.

 

So yes I can say I helped Liverpool win the treble. Unfortunately 'The Ritual's' magic only lasts so long. Once the spell is broken you have to find a new ritual.

[Guest nushka]

I cant believe you used the e word. Wait until Tom finds out

 

 

Yay!

 

Does that mean we can start the chicken v's egg debate up again? :whistle:

[gordon bennett]

You Knows It √-thanks... fascinating stuff. Are they any further down the line with low level non-psychotherapy research? Things like diet, lifestyle, alternative therapy such as St John's Wort etc.