Lawro - the worst pundit ever?

[Bakes]

Why does this guy consistently write off our chances?

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4444367.stm

 

I know this isn't too bad an article and it's probably nowhere near his worst this season but it justs frustrates the hell out of me that he feels the need to say these things.. total sell-out IMO

 

Bakes

[Vincent Vega]

Lawrenson has got a season ticket for both The Cock Ring and Dirty Dicks.

[fivetimes]

because he hates scousers thats why. great centre back. complete prick of a man. ( and if the rumours are true......)

[vib]

Why doesn't Lawro, or any other pundits, ever mention how lucky chelsea were in Germany v Bayern? They should have lost 5-1!

[Original202]

He's just part of the 'great player, complete tit' club, along with Kevin Keegan, Phil Neal, Ray Houghton etc.

 

I still can't believe Lawro has a job at the BBC. It isn't just his complete anti-Liverpool stuff, but he's just an embarressment full stop.

 

The BBC seem to specialise in signing up complete tossers though. Their recent batch is even worse: Steve Claridge, Gavin Peacock... Why do complete no mark ex players have to stick around like a bad smell and try and get themselves a career in TV? Can't they just fuck off and leave us in peace? What did Steve Claridge ever do and why are his views on football (Always delivered in painfully irritating squeaky southern accent) given any credance whatsoever? People aren't interested in what people like him have to say. He had an average career for fucks sake, never made it with anyone yet because he's an ex pro, people are expected to believe that his knowledge on football is valuable?

 

And I tell you what else pisses me off. We get a great result in Turin and reach the semi's after people writing us off all season. Yet straight away we're told how Chelsea will beat us. Can't they leave that until the week of the game and let us (And the rest of the country - because thats the most important thing isn't it? An all ENGLISh semi? :whatever: ) enjoy our result? How about they give us some real credit instead of instantly saying how shit we are or pointing to how bad Juve are etc.

 

Yes Chelsea are the favourites, I think most people know that, but can't the talk of the semi's be put on hold for a few weeks?

 

Fuck off BBC. In fact, why can't all pundits fuck off? Whats the point in them? All they do is spout the obvious "He kicked the ball, and it went in the goal". Knobs.

[chorlton]

Now Now kids, according to Slur Alex they are all closet Liverpool fans at the BEEB.

[Paul]

What pisses me off about most TV pundits is the fact that they're shit at the very basics of their jobs. Why are they variously unable to: spot decisions/infringements/incidents first time without the help of a replay (Andy Gray is an exception here - he spots everything first time); recognise players; remember key facts; or pronounce players' names correctly (Herpia/Hype-ia/Hoopia, Sm-ice-er/Smeecher/Sm-eye-cher, Baross/Barosh, Soo-ness/Sour-ness, etc...)? They get paid a fucking fortune and trot out bland and inane cliche-ridden drivel. I fucking hate 99% of them. Wankers.

[Original202]

What pisses me off about most TV pundits is the fact that they're shit at the very basics of their jobs. Why are they variously unable to: spot decisions/infringements/incidents first time without the help of a replay (Andy Gray is an exception here - he spots everything first time)

 

Then having not spotted a foul straight away, but having seen a replay from 5 different angles, they'll criticise the referee for not doing his job properly!

[chorlton]

If its suits there agenda they will, they're have been loads of incidents where they dont show a replay when your wondering whats just happened.

[BatChainPuller]

What pisses me off about most TV pundits is the fact that they're shit at the very basics of their jobs. Why are they variously unable to: spot decisions/infringements/incidents first time without the help of a replay (Andy Gray is an exception here - he spots everything first time); recognise players; remember key facts; or pronounce players' names correctly (Herpia/Hype-ia/Hoopia, Sm-ice-er/Smeecher/Sm-eye-cher, Baross/Barosh, Soo-ness/Sour-ness, etc...)? They get paid a fucking fortune and trot out bland and inane cliche-ridden drivel. I fucking hate 99% of them. Wankers.

 

Exactly - and in terms of predicting results they're shit too - another basic of their jobs. Lawro fucked up prediction of the Juve tie, like most other pundits and a fair few of us too!, but at least most of the others have had the good grace to try and recognise what Rafa has achieved. Not Lawro tho - he's going for double-or-quits. When we burst the Chelski bubble Lawro should quit or be sacked -he can't even do the basics.

[Guest ILoveTorben]

The worst pundit is Johnny Giles for RTE's 'Premiership'. He slagged off Rafa saying he was no different to GH.........after the opening game of the season!

[Brownie]

I agree with the general consenus here. Your modern day pundits are just the archetypal band-wagon jumpers. I've always planned to record what they say every week and then go back and watch it because the differing nature of those opinions on a weekly basis is remarkable.

 

I remember posting on here a few months back about how all of the sky pundits were saying that Boro have as good a squad and a team as us. Look at what's happened since then!

 

That is just one example, i'm sure there are thousands of others that occur each and every season.

 

In short, I hate pundits and if I got my way i'd be dropping chocolate hostages over each and every one of their faces.

 

The end.

[Hermes]

What's he said? He can't honestly see us reaching the final is the most contentious statement in the article. There's no criticism of the club or the team.

 

I can't stand the man myself, but there's nothing in this article to make me dislike him more.

[chorlton]

I guess, it wouldn't take much of a pundit to point out that we played them off the park for most of the game at ours.

 

That Xabi, Gerrard and Cisse will all be available. Cisse might actually have some sharpness back by then.

 

He seems to have made his mind up based on the fact its Chelsea and we've lost to them 3 times with out actually looking at the games, personally i think we have a great chance of getting to the final.

[Brownie]

I guess, it wouldn't take much of a pundit to point out that we played them off the park for most of the game at ours.

 

That Xabi, Gerrard and Cisse will all be available. Cisse might actually have some sharpness back by then.

 

He seems to have made his mind up based on the fact its Chelsea and we've lost to them 3 times with out actually looking at the games, personally i think we have a great chance of getting to the final.

 

We will fuck the Chavs!!!!

[dudek#1]

He's just part of the 'great player, complete tit' club, along with Kevin Keegan, Phil Neal, Ray Houghton etc.

 

I like those three, I think Phil Neal is sound, Keegan is funny as fuck and what the hell has Houghton done?!

 

If anyone's a complete tit, it's Souness.

 

As for Lawro, he gets on my tnerves but he's harmless enough. Just hope he predicts Chelsea will batter us like he did Juve

[Paul]

Phil Neal is thick as pig-shit (witness his parrot impression when he was Graham Taylor's side-kick for England) and a money grabber ("I've got to pay my mortgage"), and Ray Houghton is beyond cynical about us - every time he commentates on one of our matches, the bitching and griping starts before kick-off and continues relentlessly throughout the match. Keegan is harmless, and an untainted Liverpool legend in my book; there aren't that many of them left these days.

[Nunavut Patrick]

I don't understand the abuse that Keegan gets, when he quit at Man City people were having a go at him. Without Keegan, fourtimes would be threetimes. Vogts is still catching his breath chasing shadows.

 

Souness I can understand and what Neal did borders on dispicable.

 

BTW, how many from my generation (born late 60s, early 70s) watched MOTD, when it finished went out to the park or back garden and hummed the theme song while being Keegan banging goals in.

[Kurt]

We will fuck the Chavs!!!!

 

With Igor in the side we may very well... But the question is will we beat them over two legs??? ;)

[Tom R]

ALL modern commentators and pundits are cock ends.

 

Bring back:

"Keegan. Toshack. One nil!"

 

If those boys were playing today then the very same goal would be commentated something like:

"Keegan, having recently opened new contract talks with Liverpool this week - his just reward for bagging 6 braces and three hat tricks already this season, all of which you can see in our special half-time season highlights replay, or now if you're a digital viewer, by pressing the "red button" on your remote control - plays a lovely 27 yard "slide-rule pass" in to the feet of his, some say telepathic, strike partner John toshack - whose wife by the way has recently given birth to a six pound baby boy.! They've named him George and he's in the crowd today for his forst ever match.... And.... yyeessss!!! Yeeeou Beauty!!! Daddy-o has just scored a belter off the outside of his right boot! I do believe that they're Adidas boots, {zooms in on player cam} Yes! yes they are Adidas! And if you look even closer then you can clearly see that he has his new son's name stitched in to the tongue. They were specially made in a small cobblers on Marsh Lane, Bootle. Apparently the Toshacks have been buying shoes and football boots from old Mr Nobblecock, master cobbler, for years. one-Nil!"

[BatChainPuller]

With Igor in the side we may very well... But the question is will we beat them over two legs??? ;)

 

Yes - first we will beat them over their left legs, then we will beat them over their right legs. Finally we will beat their behinds till they whimper and cry like little girls.

[Stu Monty]

Strachan knows what he's talking about, Lineker can give good analysis of forwards when he feels like it and Hansen knows about defending. That's it, the rest are dog-shit.

 

Motson isn't fit to wipe the arse of the likes of Mike Ingham and Ian Brown on radio 5.

 

When do they ever show you something you didn't already know? that is the criteria i judge them on.

[Paul]

Despite the fact that he's a Blue-nosed dick, Andy Gray spots everything in a game the instant it happens.

[Vincent Vega]

BTW, how many from my generation (born late 60s, early 70s) watched MOTD, when it finished went out to the park or back garden and hummed the theme song while being Keegan banging goals in.

 

Guilty as charged. :yes:

[Hoddy]

This thread has totally hit home with me. The (majority of) football pundits in this country suck balls worse than a hoover on a horny male adolescent. I totally agree with Paul, Andy Gray is the best there is, and has been for a few years. I totally concur with someone else who stated that Motson is garbage, and that the only criteria pundits (co-commentators) should be measured on is their ability to spot something the rest of us didn't. In that respect, Gray and Gordon Strachan stand head and shoulders above the rest.

 

The rest of the pack are just a bunch of back-page tabloid hacks repeating what they read in the newspaper that morning. It's all lazy skimming analysis, stating the obvious without taking a good look at the facts. I mean, for fuck sake this is their job, they should take a bit of pride in their work. A few years ago I heard Houghton on CHannel Five talking about some player that Liverpool were coming up against. "I've heard this player's good," he said. You've heard? You've fucking heard? I heard this player's good by playing Championship Manager, yet you get paid to spout off bollocks like this. And what of Rafael Benitez's supposed shithouse zonal marking system? It was the buzz phrase at the start of the season when we leaked a few goals, but now when we've hardly conceded one from a dead ball, no-one's popping up with any explanation as to why.

 

 

 

Listening to these 'experts' talk is like listening to normal folk talk football at the pub. There's no insight, no meaningful explanations. A lot of footballers are only bothered about their own roles in games, so I can't understand why so many of them are employed to give analysis. It's like saying Mark Lawrenson was a great defender, so he'd definitely make a good manager or a good defensive coach. Well let's see now. He didn't and he didn't. And what pisses me off more about these people who get paid to give their views on today's game; it's the moaning about the high wages that players are paid, about how there's too much money in the game. Money which, by the way, is keeping half of them employed today. That's fucking hypocrisy is that.

 

Don't know what of you think on here about this, but I can't see why it has to be ex-players who talk about the game. Why can't we follow the road of politics and have 'football analysts'. People who may not have played football, but can recognise systems, and spot things that Claridge, Mark Bright, and Pat Nevin cannot. And, speaking of Nevin, watching that rat-faced weasel handle a mobile on Five's flagship football show is presumably what it's like to watch a homosexual lead a guided tour of the female clitoris.

 

I never saw Lawrenson play, but from what I can gather he was one of the greats. He just seems to me like someone who gets off on talking about how poor everyone in the modern game is, who likes sitting on that couch slating people in an attempt to boost his own ego. I cannot believe how he's still got a job and is still allowed to make pathetic attempts of jokes both in the studio and on commentary. But then this is the channel who commission My Hero and My Family, so..