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1 minute ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I know it's not fashionable talk around these parts, even after they troubled the final four of the last WC and Euros, but this is a seriously talented England side.

Just need a better coach when it gets to the real nitty gritty side of things.

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5 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I know it's not fashionable talk around these parts, even after they troubled the final four of the last WC and Euros, but this is a seriously talented England side.

Yep. On paper possibly only France look better. Italy and Germany on par with England. Obviously the pant shitting follows England when it matters unlike the other 3 mentioned there. 

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7 minutes ago, Strontium Dog™ said:

I know it's not fashionable talk around these parts, even after they troubled the final four of the last WC and Euros, but this is a seriously talented England side.

 

3 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

Just need a better coach when it gets to the real nitty gritty side of things.

 

I think with a better coach they'll not be as effective as this.

 

They are the very definition of more than the sum of it's parts and Southgate is responsible.

 

Give them a 'proper' coach and you lose this, like they will find out when he leaves.

 

Doesn't make him a great coach, just the right coach at the right time.

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Just now, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

I think with a better coach they'll not be as effective as this.

 

They are the very definition of more than the sum of it's parts and Southgate is responsible.

 

Give them a 'proper' coach and you lose this, like they will find out when he leaves.

 

Doesn't make him a great coach, just the right coach at the right time.

I don't know Bruce, a Klopp or Guardiola would get them over the final hurdle (unless it's penalties obviously!)

 

Not that aforesaid duo would ever likely be in the running but you know.

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1 minute ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

I think with a better coach they'll not be as effective as this.

 

They are the very definition of more than the sum of it's parts and Southgate is responsible.

 

Give them a 'proper' coach and you lose this, like they will find out when he leaves.

 

Doesn't make him a great coach, just the right coach at the right time.

True. Capello couldn't get a proper tune out of a team with Gerrard, Lampard, Rooney, Terry, Carrick, Ferdinand and Wes Brown. Southgate does seem ideal right now. 

 

Good volley from Kane, hat-trick. 

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3 minutes ago, KMD7 said:

I don't know Bruce, a Klopp or Guardiola would get them over the final hurdle (unless it's penalties obviously!)

 

Not that aforesaid duo would ever likely be in the running but you know.

 

I think they're happy and comfortable being the upper end of average to good, without expecting to take the next step and he and they are happy with that, allbeit not overtly, just psychologically.

 

If you try to take the next step as England always have they crumble and fail, this is a sweet spot.

 

A marriage of accepted also rans.

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