British Band Tournament - Round 2. New Order vs Black Sabbath

[cloggypop]

Smellies

[redinblack]

Joy Division might be an opponent for the mighty Sabs, but New Order?

 

This is like Charles Hawtrey v Marvin Hagler.

[Mook]

2 minutes ago, cloggypop said:

Smellies

 

Nah, smellies go about with Iron Maiden, Judas Priest & Metallica t-shirts on.

 

Sabbath are The Beatles of metal, everyone likes them, mods, rockers and everyone in between.

 

Blaming them for all the shite they spawned is like blaming The Beatles for Oasis, hardly their fault.

[Mook]

Recently discovered this video, magic quality...

 

 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, redinblack said:

Joy Division might be an opponent for the mighty Sabs, but New Order?

 

This is like Charles Hawtrey v Marvin Hagler.

... in an audition to cast the role of Tonka the Great in Carry On Up the Jungle.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

New Order did moody Joy Division stuff and then dancy electronic stuff. That's two things.

 

Sabbath did metal. That's one thing.

 

Two is more than one.

[Byrnie]

3 hours ago, Mook said:

This was almost as bad as The Band going out to ABBA in the international competition.

 

Please bump the Black Sabbath thread rather than this one in future, it's too painful.

Jesus. That's just as bad as the result of this one.

[stringvest]

Just seen the result.  That's a travesty.  New Order were an average pop band.  

[redinblack]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

New Order did moody Joy Division stuff and then dancy electronic stuff. That's two things.

 

Sabbath did metal. That's one thing.

 

Two is more than one.

In mathematical terms it is, not sure how it puts them on the level of the Sabs though...have a listen to " Laguna Sunrise", " changes" and "who are you".....they had other strings to their bow

[Mook]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

New Order did moody Joy Division stuff and then dancy electronic stuff. That's two things.

 

Sabbath did metal. That's one thing.

 

Two is more than one.

 

Clearly you haven't listened to much Sabbath. They covered about five genres on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath LP alone.

[Bruce Spanner]

1 minute ago, Mook said:

 

Clearly you haven't listened to much Sabbath. They covered about five genres on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath LP alone.

Whilst inventing dozens more…

 

‘And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.’

 

 

[Bjornebye]

 

Close thread. 

[Bruce Spanner]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

 

Close thread. 

 

In the video to Iron Man posted the reasons Ozzy looks like a nark is because his mum took him to the shops to buy some smart clothes, despite not really having any spare money, as he was going to be on TV and she didn’t want him showing the family up.

 

 

True story, the day before Ozzy didn’t own shows.

 

They really were  the most unlikely of geniuses.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

2 hours ago, Mook said:

 

Clearly you haven't listened to much Sabbath. They covered about five genres on the Sabbath Bloody Sabbath LP alone.

I admit I haven't.  On the strength of this thread, I'll probably give it a go.

 

[Bruce Spanner]

10 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

I admit I haven't.  On the strength of this thread, I'll probably give it a go.

 

People see past it because they heard Paranoid and Iron Man, but they were quite radical.

 

They were openly calling out the governments, racists, inequality but people see the caricature.

 

Part of the reason they were angry is that the saw their hero’s like Dylan desert them and thought people weren’t calling out injustice enough, even though they couldn’t fully articulate it, they weren’t ‘evil’ they were angry and found a way to channel it.

 

Both musically and politically they were ‘different’ and in a way that had never been seen before, or surpassed since.

 

Not bad for ‘four thick brickies from Brum’ as they were lovingly referred to in the Times.

[John102]

Hand of Doom is sensational, as someone who thought they were a second rate metal band until a few weeks back.

[Bjornebye]

2 hours ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

In the video to Iron Man posted the reasons Ozzy looks like a nark is because his mum took him to the shops to buy some smart clothes, despite not really having any spare money, as he was going to be on TV and she didn’t want him showing the family up.

 

 

True story, the day before Ozzy didn’t own shows.

 

They really were  the most unlikely of geniuses.

For the record, I like black sabbath 

[redinblack]

1 hour ago, Bruce Spanner said:

People see past it because they heard Paranoid and Iron Man, but they were quite radical.

 

They were openly calling out the governments, racists, inequality but people see the caricature.

 

Part of the reason they were angry is that the saw their hero’s like Dylan desert them and thought people weren’t calling out injustice enough, even though they couldn’t fully articulate it, they weren’t ‘evil’ they were angry and found a way to channel it.

 

Both musically and politically they were ‘different’ and in a way that had never been seen before, or surpassed since.

 

Not bad for ‘four thick brickies from Brum’ as they were lovingly referred to in the Times.

I saw them on their final show at the NEC, unfortunately not with Bill Ward, but they were fucking incredible. It all just welded together and it reminded you that they started all the metal and down tuning that came after it was jaw dropping. I've seen Osborne many times outside of Sabbath, but with Iommi and Butler they are unstoppable.