Tory Cabinet Thread

[Arniepie]

6 minutes ago, Strontium said:

I mean, I don't need social care myself, but you do you.

I dont need schools.

 

they should shut them all.

[Kepler-186]

1 minute ago, Arniepie said:

hasnt there been a 40% cut?

Many councils’ adult and childrens services are in special measures and unfit for purposes. Some

of that is down to cost cutting . Obviously it hit harder in poorer places which was the purpose of austerity. 

[Bjornebye]

6 minutes ago, Strontium said:

I mean, I don't need social care myself, but you do you.

More money should be spent on social care absolutely. Instead it’s lining the pockets of a government who know if they cripple the health system they can make billions from privatisation. 
 

But yes, you’re right. It’s a disgrace. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just now, Arniepie said:

hasnt there been a 40% cut?

It varies; some councils have lost 70-80% of their funding since 2010.

 

They have to prioritise what to spend money on: life-saving social care or stuff that middle class Lib Dems use.

[Bjornebye]

4 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Fucking hell!

He’s right. He needs a slap but he’s right. From memory his very tolerable lovely lady needs social care and she should rightly be allowed everything she needs. 

[Strontium]

Pretty sure everyone uses lights and bins. At least I hope they use bins.

[Bjornebye]

1 minute ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

It varies; some councils have lost 70-80% of their funding since 2010.

 

They have to prioritise what to spend money on: life-saving social care or stuff that middle class Lib Dems use.

And why has this care budget been slashed? Why have they lashed a load of under qualified middle managers into senior roles in the NHS? 
 

A very clever plan and we must not let them execute it although…. Wes Streeting backs it and guess who he decided to hate all of a sudden in 2019…… 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 hour ago, Strontium said:

Pretty sure everyone uses lights and bins. At least I hope they use bins.

Pretty sure everyone benefits from living in a society with an effective care system for when people need it.

[Bjornebye]

36 minutes ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Pretty sure everyone benefits from living in a society with an effective care system for when people need it.

Not in the slightest. 

[Section_31]

2 hours ago, AngryOfTuebrook said:

Weird post from a scion of local councillors.

 

Social care takes up a massive proportion of any council's budget. 

Yeah I think it's about 70p in the pound.

[Arniepie]

Boris Johnson vows to fix social care 'crisis' - Alzheimer's Society comments (politicshome.com)

[Section_31]

There's no appetite to fix social care because the right considers them useless breathers.

 

In Tory world you're one of two people, someone who makes them money or someone who costs 'them' money, if you're in the latter you're fucked.

 

Why do you reckon you never hear a peep about the 150k plus moneyed Hong Kong immigrants but just the middle easterners who come in boats? Take a wild guess.

[Mudface]

An analysis of the 'wild west Britain' and 'Khan's crime wave' that the Tories keep trying to push. Unsurprisingly, it's bullshit- https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024/feb/26/fact-check-has-sadiq-khan-really-overseen-a-surge-in-london

[Kepler-186]

Another piece in The Guardian, this time a bit closer to home.

 

“I don’t want anyone to feel the despair I felt’: the woman feeding Liverpool from an ice-cream van

When Michelle Roach’s son was seven months old, she found herself unemployed and diagnosed with cancer. She couldn’t afford food. Now, she is determined that no one should ever have to face that same agony

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/27/i-dont-want-anyone-to-feel-the-despair-i-felt-the-woman-feeding-liverpool-from-an-ice-cream-van

 

Of course there’s the bit in The Wire when Bubs is with the journo at a church run food kitchen and the journo asks if all of the people there are homeless and Bubs replies they’re mostly working poor. That would’ve been 2006/7 maybe? And now look at us. And they want to make it even harder. 
 

 

 

[Creator Supreme]

44 minutes ago, Kepler-186 said:

Another piece in The Guardian, this time a bit closer to home.

 

“I don’t want anyone to feel the despair I felt’: the woman feeding Liverpool from an ice-cream van

When Michelle Roach’s son was seven months old, she found herself unemployed and diagnosed with cancer. She couldn’t afford food. Now, she is determined that no one should ever have to face that same agony

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/27/i-dont-want-anyone-to-feel-the-despair-i-felt-the-woman-feeding-liverpool-from-an-ice-cream-van

 

Of course there’s the bit in The Wire when Bubs is with the journo at a church run food kitchen and the journo asks if all of the people there are homeless and Bubs replies they’re mostly working poor. That would’ve been 2006/7 maybe? And now look at us. And they want to make it even harder. 
 

 

 

Amazing people, but how sick that they are needed at all, and that it's getting worse.

[Mudface]

4 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Amazing people, but how sick that they are needed at all, and that it's getting worse.

 

If people would stop making the lifestyle choice to be poor, all this could be avoided.

[Kepler-186]

2 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Amazing people, but how sick that they are needed at all, and that it's getting worse.

Yeah the social and health cost of people living increasingly chaotic and precarious lives is a ticking time bomb. 

[Arniepie]

The audacity of Tories of giving after raynor for some alleged financial irregularitiy is off the scale. 

It's not clear what and if she has actually gone anything wrong,but she is getting both barells.

That creepy fucker Guido fawkes has actually posted her birth record on twitter.

[Creator Supreme]

5 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

The audacity of Tories of giving after raynor for some alleged financial irregularitiy is off the scale. 

It's not clear what and if she has actually gone anything wrong,but she is getting both barells.

That creepy fucker Guido fawkes has actually posted her birth record on twitter.

Have a look at the Marina Purkiss thread, she rips the fuck out of the Mail on Sunday and the Tories over the Rayner story on that cunt Jeremy Vine's show.

[Anubis]

11 hours ago, Kepler-186 said:

Another piece in The Guardian, this time a bit closer to home.

 

“I don’t want anyone to feel the despair I felt’: the woman feeding Liverpool from an ice-cream van

When Michelle Roach’s son was seven months old, she found herself unemployed and diagnosed with cancer. She couldn’t afford food. Now, she is determined that no one should ever have to face that same agony

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/27/i-dont-want-anyone-to-feel-the-despair-i-felt-the-woman-feeding-liverpool-from-an-ice-cream-van

 

Of course there’s the bit in The Wire when Bubs is with the journo at a church run food kitchen and the journo asks if all of the people there are homeless and Bubs replies they’re mostly working poor. That would’ve been 2006/7 maybe? And now look at us. And they want to make it even harder. 
 

 

 

 

At what point do we rage? At what point do we say enough is enough and trash Parliament? 

[Arniepie]

33 minutes ago, Creator Supreme said:

Have a look at the Marina Purkiss thread, she rips the fuck out of the Mail on Sunday and the Tories over the Rayner story on that cunt Jeremy Vine's show.

Yep saw that but they are really going after her

 

 

[Arniepie]

2 minutes ago, Anubis said:

 

At what point do we rage? At what point do we say enough is enough and trash Parliament? 

The serfs will be saying they all have flat tv screens and I phones

[Kepler-186]

6 hours ago, Anubis said:

 

At what point do we rage? At what point do we say enough is enough and trash Parliament? 

They know things will get a bit tasty soon hence the new draconian anti strike, anti protest and harsh surveillance laws. 
 

 

[Kepler-186]

Tories in one rule for me shocker. 
 

Behind the UK’s effort to blacklist critics

By Jem Bartholomew

 

Last April, Dan Kaszeta was sitting at his desk when he got an ominous email. Kaszeta is an American chemical-weapons expert who has worked for the White House and the Secret Service. Now based in London, he was scheduled to speak at the Chemical Weapons Demilitarisation Conference, run by the UK government, in May. He planned to talk about the risks posed by such weapons in Ukraine, Egypt, and North Korea.

 

But then he received the email, sent by one of the organizers: “Rules introduced by the Cabinet Office in 2022 specify that the social media accounts of potential speakers must be vetted,” the message read, to check if they had “ever criticized government officials or government policy.” The email went on: “It is for this reason, and not because we do not value your technical insight, that I am afraid that we have no choice and must cancel your invitation to the CWD conference.”

 

Kaszeta was confused. He had taken to Twitter to register his disapproval of the UK’s increasingly draconian immigration and asylum policy, but that seemed irrelevant to his work on chemical weapons. He told a friend, the British journalist Edward Lucas, that he’d been disinvited over his past tweets. Lucas was shocked. “This is bad on every level,” Lucas told him.

 

Worried that secretive blacklisting rules were being deployed across the British government, Kaszeta went public in May and launched a legal challenge. “I basically came around to the conclusion that the government was doing bad stuff, but they had effectively pulled the pin on a hand grenade and handed it to me,” he told me. “So I can either hold on to it, or throw it right back.”

 

It was a big domestic story; Kaszeta was soon on the front page of the London Times. “My mother, bless her, in Mesa, Arizona, practically fell out of her chair,” he said. His decision to challenge the murky rules would help expose a practice of snooping and blacklisting that stretched across at least fifteen state agencies. It was directed right from the top, the Cabinet Office, which is the center of power and rulemaking in the British government. The revelations from the Kaszeta affair exposed practices that were criticized as resembling “the plot of a dystopian novel.”
 

The story also revealed the administration’s hypocrisy, given that Prime Minister Rishi Sunak had made attacks on cancel culture and “woke nonsense” a central part of his public message.

 

The blacklisting seemed to be particularly fervid in Britain’s education department. Reporting from The Observer revealed that at least nine child-development experts had been surveilled and had their invitations to speak at conferences challenged or rescinded. Carmel O’Hagan, an expert on modern languages, requested the data collected on her, and discovered that officials had compiled an Excel spreadsheet of her Twitter interactions and accused her in internal emails of having “an axe to grind.”

 

Kaszeta hired lawyers from the Leigh Day firm to press for a judicial review of the snooping rules. Tessa Gregory, the partner who took on the case, believed the practice was dangerous, and was certain that a judge would find a slew of legal and human rights violations in it. “This kind of vetting, where people are disinvited just because they have different political views than the executive of the day—that absolutely has to be got rid of,” Gregory told me. "It was all operating secretly, without any of us as members of the public knowing about its existence, which is why it was particularly pernicious.”

 

Initially, the case seemed to be progressing well; Kaszeta got an official apology in July. But before a judge could scrutinize the lawfulness of the secret file-keeping and blacklisting, the government ordered the policy withdrawn. Without an active policy to challenge, the judicial review was dead. The Cabinet Office did not reply to a request for comment from CJR. In November, a spokesman for the office told The Observer: “The government is committed to protecting free speech. We are reviewing the guidance and have temporarily withdrawn it to prevent any misinterpretation of the rules

[skend04]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/feb/28/more-than-half-of-tory-members-in-poll-say-islam-a-threat-to-british-way-of-life

 

There's something seriously amiss with Tory members.