Tottenham at Anfield, February 4th 2018

[TheHowieLama]

Just asking - "Hey can you have a look at the telly on this" is a sacking offence.

 

Its against the rules ya blert.

 

 

Is it?

 

 

The Premier League was last night under pressure to commission an independent investigation into Jon Moss’s handling of the dramatic climax to Liverpool’s Premier League draw with Tottenham after his bosses failed to explain his potentially-illegal request for “TV” assistance.

 

[sir roger]

The ref's put a bit of chuck on since he split up with Boy George hasn't he ?

[deiseach]

The ref had a mayor. 

 

Negged by accident, can someone please fix?

[Jockey]

Interesting semantics at play in that Ref statement 

 

"Jon Moss was in a good position to see that a Liverpool player deliberately played the ball before it fell to Harry Kane in the penalty area. He then correctly judged that Kane was fouled by Loris Karius," the statement said.

"However, given the speed of the attack he was uncertain of the identity of the Liverpool player who kicked the ball.

 

In which case Moss would surely have said something like 'I have no idea who touched the ball - but there was a touch' 

 

He never said that, he said 'I have no idea whether Lovren touched the ball to be honest honest with you'

 

Then for clarification the Linesman repeated the question and again, he said 'I don't know' (If Lovren touched the ball. 

 

He clearly hadn't seen anyone touch the ball but gave the pen. 

[Pureblood]

Negged by accident, can someone please fix?

 

It's ok.  You're just lucky that I don't hold a grudge or take this forum too seriously.

[moof]

Negged by accident, can someone please fix?

I got you

[JustTosh]

Interesting semantics at play in that Ref statement 

 

"Jon Moss was in a good position to see that a Liverpool player deliberately played the ball before it fell to Harry Kane in the penalty area. He then correctly judged that Kane was fouled by Loris Karius," the statement said.

"However, given the speed of the attack he was uncertain of the identity of the Liverpool player who kicked the ball.

 

In which case Moss would surely have said something like 'I have no idea who touched the ball - but there was a touch' 

 

He never said that, he said 'I have no idea whether Lovren touched the ball to be honest honest with you'

 

Then for clarification the Linesman repeated the question and again, he said 'I don't know' (If Lovren touched the ball. 

 

He clearly hadn't seen anyone touch the ball but gave the pen. 

 

And.... even if Lovren did touch the ball, it's still offside as Clatteburg has already told us.

 

So we have a ref apointed by the FA who:

 

1. Doesn't know the offside rule
2. Wrongly thinks Kane is onside IF the ball touches Lovren. Doesn't know if it touched Lovren and still gives a pen.
3. Against the rules asks for VAR.
4. Lies about the whole thing afterwards.

 

It's all well documented through media coverage, so noone can hide behind the "no proof" argument. The worst thing is FA probaly won't suspend him.

[deiseach]

It's ok.  You're just lucky that I don't hold a grudge or take this forum too seriously.

 

No worries, I'll just give rep to some really shitty comment from you elsewhere.

[Jenson]

I blame Lovren, big Ragnar would never have fluffed that clearance.

 

 

As far as the offside on Kane goes, the FA's statement contradicts what Clattenburg is saying in that Lovren had to deliberately kick the ball in Kane's direction for him to be onside. The FA are saying that the direction the ball goes is irrelevant if the attempt to kick the ball is deliberate.

Clueless the fucking lot of them!

[JustTosh]

I blame Lovren, big Ragnar would never have fluffed that clearance.

 

 

As far as the offside on Kane goes, the FA's statement contradicts what Clattenburg is saying in that Lovren had to deliberately kick the ball in Kane's direction for him to be onside. The FA are saying that the direction the ball goes is irrelevant if the attempt to kick the ball is deliberate.

Clueless the fucking lot of them!

 

Point is Clattenburg is right, FA's only trying to cover up Moss' error.

 

There must be hundreds of incidents where a player has been ruled offside when a defender has touched the ball in an effort to block a pass. Wish I had time to gather proof.

[Einch]

And.... even if Lovren did touch the ball, it's still offside as Clatteburg has already told us.

 

So we have a ref apointed by the FA who:

 

• Doesn't know the offside rule
• Wrongly thinks Kane is onside IF the ball touches Lovren. Doesn't know if it touched Lovren and still gives a pen.
• Against the rules asks for VAR.
• Lies about the whole thing afterwards.

It's all well documented through media coverage, so noone can hide behind the "no proof" argument. The worst thing is FA probaly won't suspend him.

Expect Bobby to be charged to cover this up. FA justice.

[thegreatelephant]

I blame Lovren, big Ragnar would never have fluffed that clearance.

 

 

As far as the offside on Kane goes, the FA's statement contradicts what Clattenburg is saying in that Lovren had to deliberately kick the ball in Kane's direction for him to be onside. The FA are saying that the direction the ball goes is irrelevant if the attempt to kick the ball is deliberate.

Clueless the fucking lot of them!

 

precisely, because he is as fucking useless as the officials. that we can control, the other we can't

[Lario]

I'm assuming a miskick by a defender will be seen as an intentional backpass from now on, and no 'keeper will be able to pick it up?

[JustTosh]

I'm assuming a miskick by a defender will be seen as an intentional backpass from now on, and no 'keeper will be able to pick it up?

 

Good point!

[TheHowieLama]

It's ok.  You're just lucky that I don't hold a grudge or take this forum too seriously.

 

Early contender for Post of the Year -- will come back and rep...

[VladimirIlyich]

Trrriffffic. Now run around.

I got this. Now ggggggooo!