Summer Transfer Ballache 2016

[G Richards]

Do you still think we'll win the league next season?

By the same token, may I ask a question of you?

 

Where do you think we will finish?

 

Are you willing to say there's no way we will finish higher than sixth next season? And if you think we might go higher than sixth, what's your rationale, given the teams who will have shorter odds than us?

[Captain]

I'm willing to say "yes, I think we will win the league."

 

Delusional.

[Captain]

By the same token, may I ask a question of you?

 

Where do you think we will finish?

 

Are you willing to say there's no way we will finish higher than sixth next season? And if you think we might go higher than sixth, what's your rationale, given the teams who will have shorter odds than us?

 

 

I'm on record in this thread:

 

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/topic/109931-top-4/

 

I don't really give a fuck whether we finish 5th or 6th.

[G Richards]

Delusional.

Check your avatar my friend!

 

That's Stevie lifting the European Cup in Istanbul. At half time we had no chance, right? Most bookies had it as 100/1 or higher. We're only 9/1 to win the league next season. It's more than ten times more likely than the moment your avatar celebrates.

[Kevin D]

It could be argued we don't currently have anyone in the midfield who does any of those tasks particularly well.

It's an argument the majority of us would agree with.

[Captain]

Check your avatar my friend!

 

That's Stevie lifting the European Cup in Istanbul. At half time we had no chance, right? Most bookies had it as 100/1 or higher. We're only 9/1 to win the league next season. It's more than ten times more likely than the moment your avatar celebrates.

 

Like I said, delusional.

 

The top four thread is waiting for your top four teams, including us as champions.

[G Richards]

I'm on record in this thread:

 

http://www.liverpoolway.co.uk/index.php?/topic/109931-top-4/

 

I don't really give a fuck if we finish 5th or 6th.

Fair enough. That's about what everyone says. 5th or 6th.

[BigMike]

We need a quality central midfielder but they're not easy to come by at the moment, hence utd's willingness to part with £105+million to buy back someone they let go for nothing a few years ago.

 

Maybe Klopp has weighed up the options and is prepared to wait for Dahoud? No CL, the emergence of Allen and the cost / availability of others means we get by now and buy the players we want later rather than spending stupid money on someone we don't really want and being stuck with him?

 

We've wasted so much buying 2nd rate it's stupid. Patience and a clear plan is better than panic buying for the sake of it.

[Kevin D]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but you predicted we would win the league next season about a month ago.

 

Your opinion has no credibility whatsoever.

Don't think it's fair to criticise fans for being positive, before the season starts.

[G Richards]

Delusional is far too strong a word. It's a 9/1 shot.

 

But since we're using prickly language, allow me to say 5th-6th... Meh! It's easy to say that.

 

As a fan I'm backing my team to do better than expected.

[Captain]

Don't think it's fair to criticise fans for being positive, before the season starts.

 

It has nothing to do with being positive. It's delusion without any root in reality whatsoever, which I'm sorry to say I can't take seriously.

[ZonkoVille77]

TL; DR

[G Richards]

Like I said, delusional.

 

The top four thread is waiting for your top four teams, including us as champions.

I gave my view on top four in the thread, post number 27. I said,

 

Liverpool

Chelsea

Man Utd

Man City

[Jairzinho]

I'm not sure 20/1 would represent much value on us winning the league. 

 

Anyone that doesn't have a BetVictor account can get us at 100/1 if they want.

 

*Offer expired apparently*

[Faustus]

Personally, I think you're being a bit harsh on the Rev here, Captain.

 

If you'd said that we'd have a sniff of the league title in pre-season 13/14, I think the men in white coat's would have been ready to cart you off. Likewise if you predicted us to win the European Cup when Rivaldo put Olympiakos 1-0 up at Anfield. Football is littered with mad stuff happening. Hell, we just witnessed Leicester City win the league title by ten points! If the game was played on paper, we'd have all jacked it in a long time ago because there'd be no point.

 

Admittedly, I'm not in the best place as a red at the minute and that bloody Sevilla result still feels like a kick in the nuts, but my general feeling is that if a fan (not just of Liverpool, but any club) can't feel optimistic in pre-season, then when can they?

[Captain]

I gave my view on top four in the thread, post number 27. I said,

 

Liverpool

Chelsea

Man Utd

Man City

 

Apologies, I must have scrolled past it.

[Jairzinho]

Personally, I think you're being a bit harsh on the Rev here, Captain.

 

If you'd said that we'd have a sniff of the league title in pre-season 13/14, I think the men in white coat's would have been ready to cart you off. Likewise if you predicted us to win the European Cup when Rivaldo put Olympiakos 1-0 up at Anfield. Football is littered with mad stuff happening. Hell, we just witnessed Leicester City win the league title by ten points! If the game was played on paper, we'd have all jacked it in a long time ago because there'd be no point.

 

Admittedly, I'm not in the best place as a red at the minute and that bloody Sevilla result still feels like a kick in the nuts, but my general feeling is that if a fan (not just of Liverpool, but any club) can't feel optimistic in pre-season, then when can they?

 

Give us a prime Gerrard or Suarez and we're capable of doing, or almost doing, the impossible.

 

With this lot? Not a fucking hope.

[Captain]

I'm not sure 20/1 would represent much value on us winning the league. 

 

Anyone that doesn't have a BetVictor account can get us at 100/1 if they want.

 

*Offer expired apparently*

 

Thanks for the tip but no thanks.

[Jairzinho]

Thanks for the tip but no thanks.

 

It certainly was not a tip!

 

Chelsea at 13/2 is a tip.

[Boss]

The Dortmund fans on the reddit forum are not happy with the Gotze signing at all. 

[Captain]

Give us a prime Gerrard or Suarez and we're capable of doing, or almost doing, the impossible.

 

With this lot? Not a fucking hope.

 

Take Vardy out of half of Leicester's games. Or make Sturridge fire on all cylinders and play the entire season.

 

I'd have Luis back in a heartbeat even if it meant him losing ten games per season due to suspension, he'd still be our most valuable player.

[Jairzinho]

Take Vardy out of half of Leicester's games. Or make Sturridge fire on all cylinders and play the entire season.

 

I'd have Luis back in a heartbeat even if it meant him losing ten games per season due to suspension, he'd still be our most valuable player.

 

I think I'd probably have him back here if he could only play ten games per season.

[Faustus]

Well, yeah, I don't disagree, Jairz (re the Suarez and Gerrard point), hence why I said I'm not in the best place at the minute as a red. What I was saying was a more wider point in that I think it's harsh to castigate fans for displaying a shred of optimism and feeling entitled to dream a little before a ball has been kicked. I daresay there isn't a supporter in the land at the minute who doesn't at least have one 'what if?' thought about the season ahead even if it's contrary to what their head is telling them. As I said, it's part of what being a fan is about and you can't lambast someone for it. The thought of Klopp giving it beans with the Premier League trophy in front of the Kop on the final game of the season has crossed my mind once or twice, even though my head is saying it'll be 5th or 6th.

 

It's not as if the Rev is living in fantasy land- he's backed up his conclusions with some plausible arguments. Whether people agree or disagree with him is their prerogative, but to label him delusional when he's at least shown his workings is harsh. He hasn't exactly predicted Balotelli to win the golden boot playing for us, or for Moreno to suddenly morph into a Spanish Maldini.

[Captain]

Well, yeah, I don't disagree, Jairz (re the Suarez and Gerrard point), hence why I said I'm not in the best place at the minute as a red. What I was saying was a more wider point in that I think it's harsh to castigate fans for displaying a shred of optimism and feeling entitled to dream a little before a ball has been kicked. I daresay there isn't a supporter in the land at the minute who doesn't at least have one 'what if?' thought about the season ahead even if it's contrary to what their head is telling them. As I said, it's part of what being a fan is about and you can't lambast someone for it. The thought of Klopp giving it beans with the Premier League trophy in front of the Kop on the final game of the season has crossed my mind once or twice, even though my head is saying it'll be 5th or 6th.

 

It's not as if the Rev is living in fantasy land- he's backed up his conclusions with some plausible arguments. Whether people agree or disagree with him is their prerogative, but to label him delusional when he's at least shown his workings is harsh. He hasn't exactly predicted Balotelli to win the golden boot playing for us, or for Moreno to suddenly morph into a Spanish Maldini.

 

A shred of optimism? Seriously?

 

He *is* living in fantasy land, he predicted we'd win the league a month ago. Before either we or our opponents had made any signings.

 

Like I said, pure delusion.

[amli]

If you'd said that we'd have a sniff of the league title in pre-season 13/14, I think the men in white coat's would have been ready to cart you off.

In 13/14 we had a genius that men in white coats would have been queing up to cart off.