Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[Gnasher]

On 11/11/2021 at 18:51, skend04 said:

Here we go then. The issues on the Belarus Poland border have nothing to do with this thread as the UK decided it didn't want to be in the EU, isn't in Poland nor is in Belarus or even in Eastern Europe. Hope this helps whilst you buy your cheap meat and complain about 2 Sisters.

" whilst you buy cheap meat and complain about 2 sisters"

 

Some people have to buy cheaper forms of meat to feed their family, two sisters made 60 million quid in profit the year before last you cunt.

 

I know for a fact a lot of workers at two sisters poultry plants and a lot of unite union officials read this forum. Some on here should hold their head in fucking shame. 

[PestiRed]

I see there’s no shortage of paint thinner on U.K. shelves this Christmas

[Gnasher]

5 hours ago, PestiRed said:

I see there’s no shortage of paint thinner on U.K. shelves this Christmas

Well you should know. Why don't you go picking vegetables down some farm in Hampshire for a pittance?

[skend04]

Has Mr 90p posted today's inflation figures yet?

[Gnasher]

Fuck the slave labour farms; allotments are proven to be not only better for us but better for the environment, hopefully the days of hording cheap labour onto planes will come to an end;

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/dec/15/city-allotments-could-be-as-productive-as-conventional-farms-research-finds

[PestiRed]

2 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Well you should know. Why don't you go picking vegetables down some farm in Hampshire for a pittance?

Bit racist. Just because I live in Eastern Europe doesn’t mean I will jump at any job picking vegetables

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

4 hours ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

 

Ha "Baroness fucking  Kennedy" 

 

I'd rather listen to the veiw of that girl in a coffee shop in Bristol who's pay rise is being put to driving lessons so she can take her nan shopping and her little kid to football training, or don't these people count?

 

Edit; do low earners in traditional labour professions like haulage/agricultural/construction/hospitality count??  Or should we now ignore them and listen to the Lords and Ladies?

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pay-rises-for-low-earners-show-brexit-is-working-fbdzkpvkt

[Bjornebye]

8 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

Ha "Baroness fucking  Kennedy" 

 

I'd rather listen to the veiw of that girl in a coffee shop in Bristol who's pay rise is being put to driving lessons so she can take her nan shopping and her little kid to football training, or don't these people count?

 

Edit; do low earners in traditional labour professions like haulage/agricultural/construction/hospitality count??  Or should we now ignore them and listen to the Lords and Ladies?

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pay-rises-for-low-earners-show-brexit-is-working-fbdzkpvkt

Pay rises for low earners was a result of Brexit was it? Or is that what your beloved Brexit pushing government want you to believe? It's funny you won't believe them when they say take extra precautions because this new variant could be a fucker but they tell you Brexit has solved the countries problems and you're all over it like a pissed up stag on a strippers tits. 

[skend04]

Just now, Bjornebye said:

Pay rises for low earners was a result of Brexit was it? Or is that what your beloved Brexit pushing government want you to believe? It's funny you won't believe them when they say take extra precautions because this new variant could be a fucker but they tell you Brexit has solved the countries problems and you're all over it like a pissed up stag on a strippers tits. 

Oh no. You've done it now.

[PestiRed]

34 minutes ago, Bjornebye said:

Pay rises for low earners was a result of Brexit was it? Or is that what your beloved Brexit pushing government want you to believe? It's funny you won't believe them when they say take extra precautions because this new variant could be a fucker but they tell you Brexit has solved the countries problems and you're all over it like a pissed up stag on a strippers tits. 

Do you have any decent strippers now that you’ve booted out the East Europeans? Or are you just paying more for saggy British tits?

[Bjornebye]

21 minutes ago, PestiRed said:

Do you have any decent strippers now that you’ve booted out the East Europeans? Or are you just paying more for saggy British tits?

As long as they don't vote tory, tits are tits 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Pay rises for low earners was a result of Brexit was it? Or is that what your beloved Brexit pushing government want you to believe? It's funny you won't believe them when they say take extra precautions because this new variant could be a fucker but they tell you Brexit has solved the countries problems and you're all over it like a pissed up stag on a strippers tits. 

Their are many things I don't like about Brexit but 

most economists and political analysts believe the increase in wages/vacancies and fall in unemployment are a culmination of covid/brexit, yes.

 

 

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/pay-rises-for-low-earners-show-brexit-is-working-fbdzkpvkt

 

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

Pay rises for low earners was a result of Brexit was it? Or is that what your beloved Brexit pushing government want you to believe? It's funny you won't believe them when they say take extra precautions because this new variant could be a fucker but they tell you Brexit has solved the countries problems and you're all over it like a pissed up stag on a strippers tits. 

 

I don't listen to a word the government tells me; the experts say this new covid variant is thankfully not as deadly as the last and official hospital figures seem to uphold that diagnosis.

 

The figures on unemployment/job vacancies and wages are all on the official statistics board, I've put the link above on this page, what the government says is irrelevant.

 

https://amp.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/14/uk-unemployment-rate-falls-despite-end-of-job-furlough-scheme

[skend04]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/dec/16/van-drivers-in-uk-operating-licences-eu-brexit

 

All that extra red tape and costs. I'm sure it's completely the opposite of what was promised but what do I know. Perhaps the waitress in a Bristol coffee shop will be better placed to advise.

[Gnasher]

Why do the change uk mob have this strange sense of grandeur that makes them believe low paid workers in coffee house; poultry factorys, agriculture etc can be looked down upon, and their opinions are somehow less valid? Chukka Umana used to do it regularly, and what is it about people such as hospitality workers receiving wage rises that seems to upset certain people?  

 

Official figures show unemployment down, vacancies up a and wages rising above inflation,

 

 

 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/wetherspoons-brexit-government-vat-europe-b958592.html?amp

[skend04]

1 hour ago, Gnasher said:

Why do the change uk mob have this strange sense of grandeur that makes them believe low paid workers in coffee house; poultry factorys, agriculture etc can be looked down upon, and their opinions are somehow less valid? Chukka Umana used to do it regularly, and what is it about people such as hospitality workers receiving wage rises that seems to upset certain people?  

 

Official figures show unemployment down, vacancies up a and wages rising above inflation,

 

 

 https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/wetherspoons-brexit-government-vat-europe-b958592.html?amp

Average wage rise in 2021 was 2.5%. I really think you need to post the inflation figures that you didn't post the other day, which is really unlike you. Especially the food ones.

 

And you should also read what the articles you link actually say. Because they don't say what you think they say.

 

 

 

 

[Gnasher]

I've printed the official national data on the previous page; wages rose 1% higher than inflation in the previous three months..

 

Also although we saw a spike in inflation this week (mainly due to rising fuel costs) its practically a world wide issue and our 5% rate is still lower than Germany/Spain/USA.

 

Its this ridiculous line of blaming every little unrelated problem on Brexit that gives comics like John Cleese (a remain voter) the material for the "bloody brexit" tweets,

 

 

 

 

[Bruce Spanner]

UK comedy legend John Cleese has reaffirmed his position in the Brexit debate, saying that while it will be five years before we know the full outcome, he thinks leaving the European Union is the correct decision.

 

“I don’t want to be run by a bunch of European bureaucrats because they always look after themselves first,” he commented to Screen.

 

The Monty Python and Fawlty Towers star admitted that “it will be five years before we know if it was a good thing or a bad thing, or if it will be a hard of soft exit”, but added that he supported the possibility of the latter option.

 

AUG 2017

 

The rest of the other stuff Gnosher is incorrect, or a really skewed take, as well, as has been shown repetedly.

 

I will not be taking questions at this point.

[skend04]

8 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

I've printed the official national data on the previous page; wages rose 1% higher than inflation in the previous three months..

 

Also although we saw a spike in inflation this week (mainly due to rising fuel costs) its practically a world wide issue and our 5% rate is still lower than Germany/Spain/USA.

 

Its this ridiculous line of blaming every little unrelated problem on Brexit that gives comics like John Cleese (a remain voter) the material for their "bloody brexit" tweets,

 

 

 

 

Haha. John Cleese didn't vote to remain. I think the senile old idiot has forgotten every interjection, tweet and comment he made before going on a Johnathan Pie podcast. 

 

And you've not told me what the food inflation figures are. Is it because they outstrip the average 2.5% wage rise that hasn't changed in the last 2 or 3 years?

[Gnasher]

20 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

UK comedy legend John Cleese has reaffirmed his position in the Brexit debate, saying that while it will be five years before we know the full outcome, he thinks leaving the European Union is the correct decision.

 

“I don’t want to be run by a bunch of European bureaucrats because they always look after themselves first,” he commented to Screen.

 

The Monty Python and Fawlty Towers star admitted that “it will be five years before we know if it was a good thing or a bad thing, or if it will be a hard of soft exit”, but added that he supported the possibility of the latter option.

 

AUG 2017

 

The rest of the other stuff Gnosher is incorrect, or a really skewed take, as well, as has been shown repetedly.

 

I will not be taking questions at this point.

Ignore button still broke Spanner?

 

The figures on wage rises outstripping inflation are from the official national statistics, they are not 'skewed' at all. Unemployment is indeed down, vacancies are indeed up. I understand this seems to have upset the Change UK mob.

 

Cleese is right to take the piss out of people who blame unrelated incidents on Brexit, the way he voted is really neither here nor there although I concede you are correct he did have the sense to vote out... and looking at those stats he's been proved right.

 

Unemployment down to 4.2%. Read em and weep, 

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59648583

[Gnasher]

13 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Haha. John Cleese didn't vote to remain. I think the senile old idiot has forgotten every interjection, tweet and comment he made before going on a Johnathan Pie podcast. 

 

And you've not told me what the food inflation figures are. Is it because they outstrip the average 2.5% wage rise that hasn't changed in the last 2 or 3 years?

You do realise people do not spend the entire amount of their wages on food don't you?

[skend04]

6 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

You do realise people do not spend the entire amount of their wages on food don't you?

Cost of loans and mortgages gone up, petrol up, energy costs up, second hand cars up, fruit up, beef and meat up, tea up, clothes up. It's all up. Majority double figures. And with countless stories of people choosing between rent or food I don't think people are thinking they'll find savings by buying cheaper DVDs.

[Bruce Spanner]

 

 

So, less in work than pre pandemic *tick*

 

 

The less well off still worse off and getting worse *tick*

 

 

Economy still below pandemic levels, with slowing growth, the lowest of any G7 member despite what that shaggy haired cunt tries to convey through slight of hand. *tick*

 

Wage increase lower than most European countries, despite the shit you're swallowing, in some cases by multiple of 4.

 

No legislation on 'gig economy' contractual forthcoming, unlike our friends in the EU meaning the very least well of will be protected by law and will earn a minimum wage and have workers rights, unlike our cuddly cunts who are removing the working time directive and the human rights legislation to make it easier to exploit the masses for their own ends.

 

You were trying to pull Angry up the other day about falling for Johnsons nonsense?

 

Fuck me, you're his wet dream as every time you fall for it hook line and sinker, look beyond the headlines or you'll just end up looking stupid, as has become common place.

 

But, we've done this already, haven't we?

 

Yet everytime you choose to ignore the evidence and then repeat the same pathetic soundbites that Johnson and his ilk want you to.

[Gnasher]

4 minutes ago, Bruce Spanner said:

 

 

So, less in work than pre pandemic *tick*

 

 

The less well off still worse off and getting worse *tick*

 

 

Economy still below pandemic levels, with slowing growth, the lowest of any G7 member despite what that shaggy haired cunt tries to convey through slight of hand. *tick*

 

Wage increase lower than most European countries, despite the shit you're swallowing, in some cases by multiple of 4.

 

No legislation on 'gig economy' contractual forthcoming, unlike our friends in the EU meaning the very least well of will be protected by law and will earn a minimum wage and have workers rights, unlike our cuddly cunts who are removing the working time directive and the human rights legislation to make it easier to exploit the masses for their own ends.

 

You we're trying to pull Angry up the other day about falling for Johnsons nonsense?

 

Fuck me, you're his wet dream as every time you fall for it hook line and sinker, look beyond the headlines or you'll just end up looking stupid, as has become common place.

Bloody hell Bruce of course their are going to be less people in work, we've had a pandemic and Brexit, a lot of workers have left the country or decided to re evaluate and do other things, it's one of the reasons we have record vacancies ( which is obviously a good thing for workers and job seekers, remember them?) 

 

It's fantastic that the ONS statistics (not Boris fucking Johnson) show unemployment falling, especially youth unemployment.

 

It's also good news that after years of wage stagnation ONS figures ( you know them official things economists use) show wages outstripping inflation.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-59648583

 

Anyway I'm off to watch the football.