FA Cup: Mansfield (h) match thread

[Major Tom]

Having scoured the thread I'm now starting to grow concerned... is... is xerxes back from the match yet?

 

He's probably still having rum and cokes with the Mansfield coaching staff.

[VladimirIlyich]

Its amazing that a player who is an absolute model professional away from the pitch is treated like dirt while others,including the captains of two recent European Champions, use racist abuse thats openly caught on a microphone and avoid drugs tests and yet a word is hardly mentioned on the subject.

 

Good old multi cultural Britain at the forefront of ridding the world of xenophobia and racism.

Gawd bless 'em.

[Edward.]

Be interesting to see or hear the commentary in the highlights.

[Major Tom]

Its amazing that a player who is an absolute model professional away from the pitch is treated like dirt while others,including the captains of two recent European Champions, use racist abuse thats openly caught on a microphone and avoid drugs tests and yet a word is hardly mentioned on the subject.

 

Good old multi cultural Britain at the forefront of ridding the world of xenophobia and racism.

Gawd bless 'em.

 

Erm, the last time I looked, Ferdinand was black.

[VladimirIlyich]

Erm, the last time I looked, Ferdinand was black.

 

Xenophobia towards Suarez and racism from the England Captain.

 

Ferdinand missed drug tests,as I mentioned.

[Major Tom]

Xenophobia towards Suarez and racism from the England Captain.

 

Ferdinand missed drug tests,as I mentioned.

 

Surely, if England was at the forefront of racism, Ferdinand wouldn't have been been captain in the first place?

 

Saying that, the treatment of players like Ronaldo and, now, Suarez in the press is pretty shocking while characters such as Cole and Terry appear to get a free ride. I agree with that side of your argument. The racism side of it falls a little flat for me, though!

[fowler9]

Erm, the last time I looked, Ferdinand was black.

 

Since when couldn't a black person be racist?

 

in fact out of all the racism in football dramas recently, the only one we have any concrete proof of the offence for is Ferdinand and the choc-ice tweet yet he has got away with that scott free

[VladimirIlyich]

Surely, if England was at the forefront of racism, Ferdinand wouldn't have been been captain in the first place?

 

Saying that, the treatment of players like Ronaldo and, now, Suarez in the press is pretty shocking while characters such as Cole and Terry appear to get a free ride. I agree with that side of your argument. The racism side of it falls a little flat for me, though!

 

You failed to see the sarcasm in my post.

[Major Tom]

You failed to see the sarcasm in my post.

 

No, I got it, Vlad. You just failed to grasp my point.

[kingofjustice]

Exactly. Goes right back to the hand of god era and beyond. South American footballers were regularly negatively portrayed in this country throughout my childhood.

 

I remember wearing my Arg shirt to a local pub during one of their games at Germany '06. The landlord was stylishly dressed in full England kit, including socks and cap, and along with his pals at the bar brayed at me aggressively non-stop. His triumphant key piece was "What did your father ever do to you to make you turn out like that"?

 

"Taught me to read widely, opened my eyes through travel, and encouraged me to think for myself. Presumably yours just gave you some crayons and an absurd deference to Royalty"? There was a fucking Sun World Cup wallchart up alongside a framed picture of Lady Di, while he claimed Bobby Moore was a better player than Diego.

 

Fair do's, perhaps I brought in on myself and can see why many would see it as asking for trouble. Suarez on the other hand has just come over here as one of the best footballers in the world, and played his natural game - which would be acceptable I would suggest in almost any other country. As someone else said, his mental strength must be made of girders - he's taking the full force of the bear pit week in week out. Immense individual and fuck them. All of them.

 

Brilliant. Best Post anywhere in a while. I had an Argentina shirt as well.

The lad is playing his natural game. In S America that means win at all cost, and thats what he does. Nothing wrong with that.

[Major Tom]

Since when couldn't a black person be racist?

 

Obviosuly, since never. But what the fuck has that got to do with anything here?

[toneloc]

 

No' date=' I got it, Vlad. You just failed to grasp my point.[/quote']

 

Did you have one?

[fowler9]

Obviosuly, since never. But what the fuck has that got to do with anything here?

 

you inferred that Ferdinand couldn't be racist because he was black, at least thats how it came across

[Major Tom]

Did you have one?

 

Yeah and, as I said, Vlad failed to grasp it.

 

Did that really need saying twice? Did you really not understand the first time?

 

Really? Are you not just being a little awkward? Thick on purpose, like?

[Major Tom]

you inferred that Ferdinand couldn't be racist because he was black, at least thats how it came across

 

Not even close.

 

But it doesn't matter. Suarez gets a ridiculously hard time here and, I agree with Vlad, it is driven by xenophobia among the footballing press.

 

But, if England has a racism problem as he was intimating, it pales in comparison to the vast majority of other countries. Doesn't make it right, mind.

[boomer39]

havent read most of tonights posts...but to the idiot who said if luis had told the ref it was handball, the goal would not have been given..would it have been the same ref who robbie told seaman never touched him??? ffs get real...

[Ranxerox]

from the Mirror

 

Rodgers admitted it was a handball, but insisted there wouldn’t be much of a fuss about it, had not Suarez been involved.

 

“It hit Luis’s hand, there is no question about that, but it wasn’t deliberate, that’s the feeling I got when I saw it,” he added.

 

“Straight away I asked the fourth official if it was handball and he said ‘it was, but it wasn’t deliberate’.

 

“I don’t think it is a discussion. It is not his job to say it was handball. Would you ask the same if it was any other footballer if it wasn’t Luis Suarez? If it was someone else we probably wouldn’t be discussing it, because the officials clearly felt it wasn’t deliberate, which it wasn’t. When you see the replays you can see it pops up and hits him.

 

“But that is something the guy has to put up with. I am not sure what people want him to do in that position. I’d only say he’s got thick skin, he’s comfortable with his life in this country as a football player, and it’s part of his life. People are beginning to recognise what a brilliant talent he is.”

[Major Tom]

Did you copy and paste the whole paper, scot?

[Code]

The thread just got killed.

 

edit- and brought back to life by edit.

[fowler9]

it doesn't help that the handball interpretation is like the offside rule and changes every week, I don't think it was intentional but I don't think it should stand

[Guest San Don]

alan marriott, mansfield keeper accues Suarez of 'laughing' when he scored after handling the ball. Really? Have a fucking word with yourself, lad.

[Major Tom]

alan marriott, mansfield keeper accues Suarez of 'laughing' when he scored after handling the ball. Really? Have a fucking word with yourself, lad.

 

If he wasn't laughing, he should have been. I was.

[fowler9]

alan marriott, mansfield keeper accues Suarez of 'laughing' when he scored after handling the ball. Really? Have a fucking word with yourself, lad.

 

sounds very different to what he has been tweeting

 

Alan Marriott‏@Mazza_78

 

Got a lot of time for Suarez though and to constantly call him a cheat is poor IMO! #worldclassplayer

[Anubis]

alan marriott, mansfield keeper accues Suarez of 'laughing' when he scored after handling the ball. Really? Have a fucking word with yourself, lad.

 

I dearly hope it was a full on "Mwuhahahahahahahahahah!" while twinging the corner of his well-waxed moustache.

[Fugitive]

The Mancs are making out he's the biggest cheat ever seen because of this and a disgrace for not telling the ref. they must have been similarly outraged when this happened...

 

 

Gobshites.