Lib Dems

[Gnasher]

Do the Lib Dems still exist?

Only in their own head

[Gnasher]

Wouldn't surprise me. Ian Duncan Smith made it so ATOS would specifically weed out people with mental illness on the points system they use to declare Incapacity Benefit. It's much harder to prove you have a mental illness than physical. They then froze those claimants benefits for up to 14 months as they awaited a tribunal and gave them the "lifeline" of signing up to Job Seekers Allowance in the meantime - knowing most would run out of money. Of course thousands signed up for JSA because people on benefits are not known for having large savings accounts (contrary to the propaganda in the Daily Mail) and as soon as they did they were declared "fit for work". A lot of them killed themselves with the stress of having their benefits froze / tribunals / or being falsely declared fit for work.

 

It's one of the worst tragedy's that's happened in this country for years and it's hardly spoken about. It was a social cleansing program set up by the Tories to punish the most vulnerable people in society because the bankers tanked the economy. Cameron then went to the EU and fought vociferously to stop them from capping banker bonuses. In her mind a surcharge for a plastic bag is more important than peoples lives. Which pretty much sums up the Lib Dems nonchalance during the whole escapade to a tee.

Their lack of self awareness means them still unable to see that pandering and propping up a the Tory axis of Cameron/Osborne led to the Eu referendum which produced the result they so hate.

[Creator Supreme]

Wouldn't surprise me. Ian Duncan Smith made it so ATOS would specifically weed out people with mental illness on the points system they use to declare Incapacity Benefit. It's much harder to prove you have a mental illness than physical. They then froze those claimants benefits for up to 14 months as they awaited a tribunal and gave them the "lifeline" of signing up to Job Seekers Allowance in the meantime - knowing most would run out of money. Of course thousands signed up for JSA because people on benefits are not known for having large savings accounts (contrary to the propaganda in the Daily Mail) and as soon as they did they were declared "fit for work". A lot of them killed themselves with the stress of having their benefits froze / tribunals / or being falsely declared fit for work.

 

It's one of the worst tragedy's that's happened in this country for years and it's hardly spoken about. It was a social cleansing program set up by the Tories to punish the most vulnerable people in society because the bankers tanked the economy. Cameron then went to the EU and fought vociferously to stop them from capping banker bonuses. In her mind a surcharge for a plastic bag is more important than peoples lives. Which pretty much sums up the Lib Dems nonchalance during the whole escapade to a tee.

An excellent summation! I expect Stronts to be along shortly to try to prove black is white and it's all the fault of Jeremy Corbyn!

[Strontium]

Is that fucking true?

Yes, it was a brilliant strategic move on our part. We got what we wanted, but the Tory benefit sanctions couldn't go ahead because they were illegal.

[Strontium]

An excellent summation! I expect Stronts to be along shortly to try to prove black is white and it's all the fault of Jeremy Corbyn!

I'm not interested in addressing a pack of lies about the past, I'll look to the future, and ask Labour why they won't reverse Tory benefit cuts, because we would reverse them.

[Creator Supreme]

I'm not even reading his posts, I knew you wouldn't let me down Stronts.

[Numero Veinticinco]

and ask Labour why they won't reverse Tory benefit cuts

You know this is an untruth, why keep pushing it?

[Strontium]

You know this is an untruth, why keep pushing it?

It wasn't in their manifesto.

[Numero Veinticinco]

It wasn't in their manifesto.

Come on now, ye wee scamp ye!

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

 

 

Henry Zeffman

 

@hzeffman

 

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10h

 

Just got back from Vince Cable speech. He's the first person I've ever transcribed with the recording sped up

[Rico1304]

How does this go?

 

I’m amazed that a load of people who’d never vote for...etc etc etc.

[cloggypop]

Can't be arsed searching for it but forum juxtapositions

 

Lib Dems / The Taxidermy Thread

[Numero Veinticinco]

How does this go?

 

I’m amazed that a load of people who’d never vote for...etc etc etc.

Yes, 1 post today. It’s going fucking mental in here.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Ouch!

 

Particularly this bit...

 

"Yet Britain’s traditional party of the middle ground is flatlining. The Liberal Democrats are polling in poor single digits, perilously close to the point where their rating is indistinguishable from the margin of error."

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/09/hole-in-middle-lib-dems-will-not-fill-it-themselves?CMP=fb_gu

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Oh dear. 

Vince Cable's conference speech has been a painful watch. Terrible jokes. Accusing May of "Kowtouting" (???) to Tory extremists. He even ballsed up his recent "erotic spasm" line and ended up saying something like "exotic sprasm." He looks quite doddery and shaky too. 

Whoever put him in front of a backdrop plastered with "Demand Better" has got some evil sense of humour on them. 

[Numero Veinticinco]

I quite like Vince Cable. There's no doubt that he's an intelligent, principled man. I disagree with him on quite a few things, but generally he's a decent enough guy. He's no leader, in my opinion, and he probably realises that having spoken about standing down already. I don't see much talent or leadership in the Lib Dems to be honest. I think they blew their chance to become the second party, which is a shame because in theory they're better than the in-practice of an electable Labour Party. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

His one big line....

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1042049125699575808

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

 

 

Gary Lineker

 

@GaryLineker

 

So excited for tonight’s game between Liverpool & PSG, I might be in danger of having an exotic spresm.

3:13 pm · 18 Sep 2018

[Denny Crane]

The balderdash chancer Clegg sits their looking shiftly

 

 

 

 

BBC Politics

 

@BBCPolitics

 

"You can't get away with that, especially to distance yourself away from Brexit"

@MikeSegalov

tells

@nick_clegg

"Clearly, you sowed the seeds of Brexit happening

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1042017902897975296

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

The Lib Dems can at least take some comfort from there being no similar verbal slip up (a Cableism?) when he called Labour and the Tories "intolerable cults"...

[moof]

[Strontium]

Labour press office presumably preoccupied with improving Jeremy's standing in the "Who would make the best PM?" stakes from behind Theresa May and Don't Know.

[Jairzinho]

2 hours ago, Nelly-Torres said:

His one big line....

https://mobile.twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1042049125699575808

For fuck sake...

 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

2 minutes ago, Jairzinho said:

For fuck sake...

 

It's just a total mess from start to finish. 

1) The originally planned line/angle of "erotic spasm" was just a bit shit and weird anyway.

2) Somebody in the Lib Dems obviously thought differently as it was briefed to all the press, suggesting it was their biggest, bestest line of Cable's conference speech.

3) Having briefed the press in such a way, Vince goes and totally ballses it up anyway. 

If they can't even deliver a two line soundbite properly, do they really expect people to take them seriously when holding themselves out as the only party capable of stopping Brexit. A desire to stop Brexit and the ability to do so are two entirely distinct concepts. The Lib Dems have one of these things, but are massively lacking in the other.  

[Numero Veinticinco]

15 minutes ago, Strontium Dog said:

Labour press office presumably preoccupied with improving Jeremy's standing in the "Who would make the best PM?" stakes from behind Theresa May and Don't Know.

Any comment on Cable’s performance?