Torres mega-thread

[MLB]

I don't really want Anelka to be honest, but if it's the only realistic option we have in terms of bringing someone in then we'll have to go for it. He should be valued low as a makeweight though - no more than about £5 million. I'd want £50 million and Anelka.

[Antynwa]

I don't really want Anelka to be honest, but if it's the only realistic option we have in terms of bringing someone in then we'll have to go for it. He should be valued low as a makeweight though - no more than about £5 million. I'd want £50 million and Anelka.

 

Yep

[Beno]

Additionally we're assuming that these huge megabids will arrive in the summer. The UEFA fair play rules start to bite in the summer so we might not even get those huge bids.

 

This is a point that Torres and his team are missing I think.The Chavs have got to re-build just as much as us , if not more when you look at the age of all their star players.

Come the summer if all clubs have to spend only what they earn then Chelsea are fucked and his would be the only big money transfer at Chelsea for the forseeable future. I'd love him to go now and witness Chelsea's decline while we gradually move onwards and upwards.

[myrlas]

Torres isn't training. Neither is Suarez

[lucozade]

Torres is at Melwood.

 

I've just been told by someone on twitter who is taking pics at training that he's not... if he is there then he's late coming out

[myrlas]

Oh, and Carra is training as well.

[MLB]

Just use the cash to get Augero and some proper wingers, a left back and a replace ment for Skrtel. Yes I was proper hurt when the story broke. But after losing so much talent in the last 2 yrs I've become quite numb to it now.

 

 

Winter is summer in Bizarro-World.

[ScouseJim]

If he does go and I'm thinking it's probably best now, we get at least £50m for him, whether that includes players I don't care.

 

Then in Chelsea match we give the Poulson the chance to be a hero for Liverpool after all.. send him on and get him to snap Torres' leg just above the knee.. we lose Poulson for 3 matches at least but hey what's the loss?

 

Okay, yes I'm joking (kind of) but if Torres doesn't want to play for us then fuck off, it's been said before but no-one is bigger than the club and £50m id craxy money for the moaning little shit on this season's form.

[Red-Ed]

I've just been told by someone on twitter who is taking pics at training that he's not... if he is there then he's late coming out

 

Is that the same one who's posted pics, but said Sammy Lee confirmed Torres was there?

 

You've got to love twitter for creating such confusion and contradiction.

[Antynwa]

We'll snot them at the bridge.

[Code]

Is that the same one who's posted pics, but said Sammy Lee confirmed Torres was there?

 

You've got to love twitter for creating such confusion and contradiction.

 

Yes it is.

[MLB]

We'll snot them at the bridge.

 

 

I think we might as well you know.

[Phoenix]

No player at Anfield can ever be bigger than the club, not even Fernando Torres | Mail Online

 

Another perspective.

 

No player at Anfield can ever be bigger than the club, not even Fernando Torres

 

Experienced managers Rafael Benitez, Vicente del Bosque and Roy Hodgson all have one thing in common besides winning major trophies.

 

They have all fallen out with Fernando Torres. Del Bosque, one of the most popular men in the game, was so irritated by El Nino, as Torres is known, that he made him warm up for an hour at the World Cup final before sending him on.

 

Current Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish will probably not have time to fall out with Torres given that the player has demanded a move to Chelsea within the next 48 hours.

 

But maybe the striker's past spats and suspect attitude lies behind Dalglish's acceptance that life will go on at Anfield even if Torres heads south to the King's Road.

 

Nobody has been more supportive of Torres in his short time in charge than Dalglish. The manager was talking up the Spaniard's ability from the moment he took the call from John W Henry on a cruise ship in Bahrain and returned to Anfield as Hodgson's successor until at least the end of the season.

 

Last weekend, after the Spanish World Cup winner grabbed two goals in a 3-0 victory at Wolves, Dalglish said: 'Since I have come in here, he has been nothing short of fantastic in the way he has applied himself in training and on the pitch.'

 

Torres the player is someone Dalglish would dearly love to have at Anfield for the rest of the season and beyond.

 

It is why he went to Holland to scout Luis Suarez, primarily to find Torres his ideal strike partner. But the way Torres handed in a transfer request this week as the transfer deadline closed and Suarez jetted in to complete a £23million move has seriously annoyed Dalglish and others at the club.

 

If Chelsea cough up the right money, there will be no begging, cajoling or more arms around the shoulder for Torres to stay.

 

The old maxim 'No player is bigger than the club' will never be more true.

 

For two years, Torres was the perfect poster boy for Liverpool. He boned up on the club's history before he arrived from Madrid and lived in the heart of Woolton, in south Liverpool, rather than a gated community miles away from the city in Southport or on The Wirrall.

 

Local residents would be charmed to see the superstar No9 walking his dog in local parks, just like other members of the community.

 

But even then the image was somewhat misleading, and in the past 12 months sociable Fernando has increasingly been replaced by surly Fernando, with even the normally diplomatic Jamie Redknapp describing his work-rate as 'diabolical'.

 

One of Torres's team-mates said: 'He has always been a complex character. He is so naturally gifted he's always been totally self-absorbed.

 

'For the first year we'd put his quietness down to a lack of fluent English, but then he'd come out with something word perfect, which made you realise he understood what was going on all the time.

 

 

'It wasn't shyness, more aloofness. And on the pitch he'd definitely play for himself rather than the team. Even the real pros like Stevie Gerrard and Jamie Carragher noticed it but when Torres is on top form you'd forgive him anything.

 

'But his efforts for the team this season under Roy Hodgson made everyone notice. His Prozone stats for some games were laughable for a Premier League striker. He has always been admired by his teammates, but not loved. He hasn't endeared himself in the way that Pepe Reina has, for example.'

Legend: Kenny Dalglish knows what it's like to have the hopes of a football club on your shoulders

 

As a former great striker himself, Dalglish felt that putting his arm around Torres and giving him more support up front would help.

 

Workaholic Dirk Kuyt was detailed to play alongside Torres and do some of his running, and the plan has worked to some extent, with three goals in his last four games. But behind the scenes, Torres was clearly thinking about other clubs and on Thursday dropped his bombshell, following Chelsea's interest.

 

Liverpool suspect the London club gained prior information about Torres's state of mind and with Chelsea under a suspended three-point sentence for 'tapping up' Gael Kakuta, Liverpool may use it as a weapon to ensure Chelsea cough up the right price - £50m.

 

The timing could not have been worse for Liverpool, with Suarez coming into a city that is talking about Torres rather than him.

 

In the short term, Liverpool cannot do much business with the Torres money, maybe put in a new bid for Blackpool's Charlie Adam, try to get Stephen Warnock on loan from Aston Villa and see if Nicolas Anelka will move in the opposite direction to Torres.

 

Former Liverpool player Mark Lawrenson, now a Match Of The Day pundit and a man close to Dalglish, said yesterday: 'Liverpool have only three days to find a replacement. But if Chelsea make a stupid offer, what do you do?'

 

David Ginola put it even more starkly: 'You can't keep an unhappy player. For Torres to say he wanted to be out of the club by Monday is a big surprise for me, it is not respecting the club.'

 

You imagine Dalglish would concur.

 

Torres the player might be extremely hard to replace. But saying farewell to Torres the person may not do the club any long-term harm.

 

What a fucking retarded article.

[s(k)aturation]

We'll snot them at the bridge.

 

... after beating Stoke on Wednesday.

 

So the "can we ?" top 4 poll thread will be re-activated in a minute.

[Redzion]

@philteddylfc said:

 

Big news. Unconfirmed yet but it appears that Man City have blew Chelsea out if the water by offering a huge player plus cash deal that is too much for #LFC to ignore. Time will tell if this is true but deal said to be worth up to 75m

[rargh]

Apparently SSN have has their gimps outside Melwood all morning, reporting a no-show from Torres.

[Jim MM]

I've just been told by someone on twitter who is taking pics at training that he's not... if he is there then he's late coming out

 

If he's there I'd imagine his employers have more urgent business to attend to with him.

[Evil_Ways]

Would be funny as fuck if City came along with something that dwarfed Chelsea's bid.

Would be a win-win for us, either Chelsea matches it, or Torres goes there or he stays until the summer.

 

Doubt it though, they look pretty sorted up front already.

[s(k)aturation]

I've just been told by someone on twitter who is taking pics at training that he's not... if he is there then he's late coming out

 

He might just be dumping out that Spanish omelette he had for breakfast.

[Guest San Don]

@philteddylfc said:

 

Big news. Unconfirmed yet but it appears that Man City have blew Chelsea out if the water by offering a huge player plus cash deal that is too much for #LFC to ignore. Time will tell if this is true but deal said to be worth up to 75m

 

This article, if you believe it, says not so

 

Minders of Liverpool striker Torres sounded out Man City after Chelsea bid | Premiership News | tribalfootball.com

 

Liverpool striker Fernando Torres is open to moving to Manchester City, it has been revealed.

 

Torres has had a transfer request turned down by Liverpool amid Chelsea's push for him before tomorrow's transfer deadline.

 

The Sunday Express says Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich is prepared to sanction the transfer which will smash the British record to bits.

 

Manchester City, who set the current high of £32.5m for Robinho, were sounded out by Torres’s people about whether they would enter the bidding – but gave a firm ‘no’ in reply.

[Code]

Maybe someone should lock Torres in the toilet like Tiago did to the Juve director when they wanted to sell him to the bitters.

 

Give him some milk and bread and let him out on Tuesday.

[Josef Svejk]

I doubt there's any truth in that City rumour, but which players might be involved in such a hypothetical scenario?

[Soup]

Welcome Fernando

 

[Scouse_Datcha]

Apparently SSN have has their gimps outside Melwood all morning, reporting a no-show from Torres.

 

Torres is there but he is not training.

[clangers]

£60 million plus Johnson? C'mon City you know you can't resist?