Hideous start to the weekend...

[SpeedyG]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but did he not have a groin op last season?

 

He did indeed. It was a quick recovery though a couple of weeks I think. Missed an England game to get it done if I remember rightly. Which leads me to believe he would have made the decision to skip england again in favour of being ready for Liverpool if he thought there was a decision to be made.

[Anny Road]

Ok. Now how about playing in a meaningless showpiece friendly and injuring yourself in the process, thereby seeing your club's chances of winning the domestic league go to shite yet again?

 

Context.

If the manager asks you to play you play. Esp this England manager.

There is no such thing as a meaningless friendly. To Gerrard that shirt is his. Put someone else in it and they run riot with Lampard doubts creep in.

I have no time for England any longer but can totally understand a professional footballer wanting to play at the highest level.

I would have more doubts about him as a man if he was a quitter.

[Redder Lurtz]

If the manager asks you to play you play. Esp this England manager.

 

Tell that to Carra.

 

 

I would have more doubts about him as a man if he was a quitter.

 

And then tell that to Carra too.

[Anny Road]

Tell that to Carra.

 

 

 

 

And then tell that to Carra too.

Silly argument mate if Cara was a regular or even occasional center half for England he would still be there.

[OmarVizquel]

Garrard?

[Royal Family]

Yes, it's annoying that Stevie is injured whilst on international duty BUT we've been guilty of overplaying him over the last few seasons, and rushing him back for the Lyon game was utterly senseless. So the club needs to bear a sense of responsibility here. It's also hardly Stevie's fault that we have a squad that is just as hopelessly dependent on him as Houllier's team of 2003-4 was, is it?

 

Besides, if Rafa played Yossi in the hole, actually we shouldn't miss Stevie as much as we do - Yossi isn't quite a like-for-like, but he's nonetheless an awesome player in that position. Again, it makes no sense to me to put Dirk in that role.

[Anubis]

I couldn't give a fuck what Capello wants. When the FA pays his fucking wages they can make that call. If Capello had ANY sense of responsibility towards his top players he'd realise the effects of exacerbating an injury and he'd insist they go back to their club for proper assessment. He was a club manager and should know better. Fuck Capello. Fuck the FA. And fuck England.

[Anny Road]

I couldn't give a fuck what Capello wants. When the FA pays his fucking wages they can make that call. If Capello had ANY sense of responsibility towards his top players he'd realise the effects of exacerbating an injury and he'd insist they go back to their club for proper assessment. He was a club manager and should know better. Fuck Capello. Fuck the FA. And fuck England.

Capello is paid many million to worry about England not the clubs. He will do what suits him and noone else. As would I.

[Anny Road]

Did someone merge threads or have I had more Merlot than I think.

[Royal Family]

I. If Capello had ANY sense of responsibility towards his top players he'd realise the effects of exacerbating an injury

 

Er, and by the same token what did Rafa do in playing him for 25 minutes in the game against Lyon, which exacerbated this injury to a far greater extent (see also playing Torres with injections, etc). The dependence on Stevie at a club level, to the extent of overplaying him and ignoring a serious injury, is causing his ongoing problems, not just games for England

[Crazyhorse7778]

Playing in a meaningless friendly when he clearly wasn't fully fit is not going to effect a player like Gerrard's world cup chances.

[Anny Road]

Playing in a meaningless friendly when he clearly wasn't fully fit is not going to effect a player like Gerrard's world cup chances.

True then you have to question the England medical team not the player and manager who won't to play ever game.

[diego]

the extent of overplaying him and ignoring a serious injury, is causing his ongoing problems, not just games for England

 

 

No matter how you contrive to use the situation as a rod to beat Rafa, the fact is that the medical staff at Melwood including their specialist medical consultants decided he should have an operation some time ago.

 

He had it.

 

He was then carefully assessed by them before they gave Rafa the all-clear to play him.

 

He got the latest injury playing for England and then over-training for England - something he could have objected to but didn't. It has nothing to do with LFC or Rafa. The same LFC medical staff then said he could play against Lyon but he was to come off if he felt any pain. He did feel pain so he came off.

 

Where is the "overplaying him" in this?

 

No player has been more coddled than he. He has been going to France, Germany and America for specialist treatment since he was 18 not to mention all the specialist treatment he gets at Melwood.

[Anny Road]

True then you have to question the England medical team not the player and manager who won't to play ever game.

I can't believe my spelling I apologize to Paul.

[ratcatcher]

Desparately disappointing news. If he needs an op, get him booked in quickly. We dont need this dragging on for weeks being told rest will cure it then, finding he still needs to op afterall.

[Redder Lurtz]

Tell that to Carra.

 

 

 

 

And then tell that to Carra too.

 

Smashing. Negged for this by Shitchatcher, accompanied by the legend "fuck off." To be fair I only just noticed it as it barely registered.

 

I love Shitcatcher, he makes me laugh.