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Elsewhere, former home secretary Dame Priti Patel accused her successor Suella Braverman of attention seeking over a recent speech the latter delivered in Washington on migration.
Dame Patel described the address as an attempt to draw “dividing lines” and “get attention” ahead of the next general election.

 

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On 30/09/2023 at 16:40, Kepler-186 said:


I think you missed the point. 
 

Brexit has handed the sort of people in my post all the power of the British state to enact their free market visions of the “Britannia Unchained” mob. Low tax, zero welfare, next to no regulations to hamper “business”. The ERG and other headbangers. 
 

There’s now a conveyor belt of new Tory gobshites waiting in the wings ready to use the UK as lab for their economic visions. 
 

And they can do this without any checks and balances because as you will know they’ve already started targeting British laws and institutions they don’t like and could stand in their way. 
 

Yes, Cameron and Osborne were fucking Tory cunts.

 

But Brexit is/was a hard right project to hand even more power to the even more despicable Tory only in name cunts who now run the show. They’re going to throw the kitchen sink at it to stay in power. Hence why the GB News hedge fund cunt is going to buy the Torygraph and Spectator. 

 


 

 

 

 

That's an excellent post. Not much I disagree with but I'll answer some of your points when I've time.

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Just astonishing isn't it? She really is self obsessed, lacking any self awareness and dangerously stupid. She screwed up the economy and only lasted as PM for 49 days. Previous generations of politicians would have retired and returned to private life in shame and yet Liz is back refusing to take any responsibility and blaming everyone else. Yet the Tories just love her.

 

I read earlier this week that she was attempting to blame New Labour in 1997 for being responsible for all the country's ill's.

 

They really are deranged and dangerous. 

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42 minutes ago, skend04 said:

There seems to be a mental illness running through the Tory party. She fucked the economy yet there's a good proportion of them attached to her growth group. Fucking madness.

 

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Maybe they’re all fucking her? 

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47 minutes ago, skend04 said:

There seems to be a mental illness running through the Tory party. She fucked the economy yet there's a good proportion of them attached to her growth group. Fucking madness.

 

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She's spouting the same shit as Labour and Rachel Reeves.  "Growth" what's different?

 

 

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44 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

She's spouting the same shit as Labour and Rachel Reeves.  "Growth" what's different?

 

 

 

40 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

What's the economic difference between Truss and Reeves? Bar for Reeves not being so blatant??

 

Well, apart from the fact you appear to have forgotten that she and her squeeze Kwarteng fucked the economy, I guess you're right in some parallel universe where I must have been talking about policy similarities with Labour. Which I wasn't in this one.

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1 hour ago, skend04 said:

There seems to be a mental illness running through the Tory party. She fucked the economy yet there's a good proportion of them attached to her growth group. Fucking madness.

 

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If Rishi was any kind of leader with any kind of spine he'd have volleyed the 'small state' ex-ERG wing of his party into orbit upon receipt of his winning the leadership. They're a minority, albeit a noisy one, but instead of putting them in their box when he had the opportunity, he accommodated them like the coward he is with all too predictable consequences.

 

Compare and contrast with how Starmer dealt with the left in Labour.

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

If Rishi was any kind of leader with any kind of spine he'd have volleyed the 'small state' ex-ERG wing of his party into orbit upon receipt of his winning the leadership. They're a minority, albeit a noisy one, but instead of putting them in their box when he had the opportunity, he accommodated them like the coward he is with all too predictable consequences.

 

Compare and contrast with how Starmer dealt with the left in Labour.

 

 

 

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Said exactly the same about Sunak a few weeks back.

 

Surely the only way he was ever going to move the polls was to try to show his party as more normal and make some effort to actually help people who are struggling. Take a chance and remove the whip off a few prominent ERG nutters as soon as they gave him an excuse and cow the rest of them. He could still have kept the old, cunty members onside with triple-locks and inheritance tax and whatever. I can't believe the sums paid to advisers who haven't got a clue.

 

I'll ignore the Labour stuff, haha.

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2 hours ago, skend04 said:

 

 

Well, apart from the fact you appear to have forgotten that she and her squeeze Kwarteng fucked the economy, I guess you're right in some parallel universe where I must have been talking about policy similarities with Labour. Which I wasn't in this one.

 

Nice.

 

But you haven't answered the question. Both Truss and Reeves are constantly saying  'Growth" will ignite the economy. What's the difference between the two of them?

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11 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Nice.

 

But you haven't answered the question. Both Truss and Reeves are constantly saying  'Growth" will ignite the economy. What's the difference between the two of them?

 

Not every stupid question deserves an answer but if it's not already obvious, one of them didn't tank the economy. 

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20 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Nice.

 

But you haven't answered the question. Both Truss and Reeves are constantly saying  'Growth" will ignite the economy. What's the difference between the two of them?

Have you answers Kepler yet? Or points made to you a week ago when you were going to watch the match so couldn’t answer then? 
Regardless, the working people of our country are materially, politically and socially, worse off because of Brexit.

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One is chasing growth by borrowing to fund futures infrastructure, create jobs and stimulate regional economies, the other by cutting taxes for the wealthiest to stimulate the economy through trickle down, completely discredited, and dangerous economic theory.

 

I'd say they're dammed near identical in truth, if only you ignore everyfuckingthing about them and wore your lobotomy with pride.

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Interesting to see Global (owners of LBC) at the Tory conference with a stand.
 

In a few places round here these massive black 2001 looking monolith screen points have appeared to spew their (LBC) messages out. Nothing says thriving community like takeaways, vape shops, Cash converters and 20 alkies playing with a flyaway next to a 10 ft globally integrated media platform and closed office blocks. 
 

 

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5 hours ago, clangers said:

Just astonishing isn't it? She really is self obsessed, lacking any self awareness and dangerously stupid. She screwed up the economy and only lasted as PM for 49 days. Previous generations of politicians would have retired and returned to private life in shame and yet Liz is back refusing to take any responsibility and blaming everyone else. Yet the Tories just love her.

 

I read earlier this week that she was attempting to blame New Labour in 1997 for being responsible for all the country's ill's.

 

They really are deranged and dangerous. 

Yeah some tory cunt was blaming immigration on Labour today.

She has definitely got some powerful Tufton St lobbyists behind her.That frog faced cunt was backing her today aswell.

The fucking mentalist actually thinks she was hard done by and should be given another chance.

If they lose the election I Hope see gets it.It will split the party in 2.

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4 hours ago, Jack the Sipper said:

 

If Rishi was any kind of leader with any kind of spine he'd have volleyed the 'small state' ex-ERG wing of his party into orbit upon receipt of his winning the leadership. They're a minority, albeit a noisy one, but instead of putting them in their box when he had the opportunity, he accommodated them like the coward he is with all too predictable consequences.

 

Compare and contrast with how Starmer dealt with the left in Labour.

 

 

 

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Are they the minority though?

I'm struggling to think of 1 John major type 1 Conservative type?

Braverman,Rees mogg,fabricant,gullies,Anderson,schnapps, etc..there seems be an endless line of these ultra wing mentalists screaming that our human rights should be removed.

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2 hours ago, Arniepie said:

Yeah some tory cunt was blaming immigration on Labour today.

She has definitely got some powerful Tufton St lobbyists behind her.That frog faced cunt was backing her today aswell.

The fucking mentalist actually thinks she was hard done by and should be given another chance.

If they lose the election I Hope see gets it.It will split the party in 2.

If they lose the election badly, it wouldn’t shock me if they were desperate enough to shoehorn frog face king of the gammons into the party and make him leader. They are already a UKIP/Brexit party inspired shower of twats, why not go the whole way and have the twat who lead them there as leader?

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9 hours ago, Arniepie said:

Are they the minority though?

I'm struggling to think of 1 John major type 1 Conservative type?

Braverman,Rees mogg,fabricant,gullies,Anderson,schnapps, etc..there seems be an endless line of these ultra wing mentalists screaming that our human rights should be removed.

 

I think you're conflating the 'hang em high 'social conservatives with the low tax types that I mentioned above. There is some crossover , but also some distinctions. I'm not sure I would put Grant Shapps in amongst Braverman et al either. And what do you mean by a John Major type? Someone who campaigned for Remain? A Tory that appears more reasonable after they've lost power than they did when they had it? Theresa May fits the bill on both counts, if that helps.

 

As for whether they're a minority, I think you only need to look at the size of the groupings. At its height the ERG was reckoned to have less than 100 members, while the group formed around Truss has around 60. As I said, they make a lot of noise (two of the MPs you mentioned have their own shows on GBNews) but don't confuse that for numbers.

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12 hours ago, Section_31 said:

Rachel Reeves is the same as Truss. Starmer is the same as Donald Trump.

 

Rachel Reeves and Liz Truss both places "Growth" as their main solution to the country's economic woes. Both are against public investment to propel this "Growth". Both are against a tax on the wealthy. Both ar

 

e https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/keir-starmer-policies-benefit-cuts-reeves-b2399406.htmlagainst a tax on the banks. Both are against taxing unearned income (Capital gains tax) as the same as earned income (income tax). Both believe in differing forms of trickle down economics.

 

Both of their plans have been slammed by leading economists. The main difference between the two is in the colour of the

rosette.

 

 

 

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