Las Vegas shooting

[Pureblood]

you'll be able to point to the bit where I blamed religion.

 

I'm still waiting.  It doesn't usually take until page 6 on the Muslamic threads. 

[Rico1304]

I'd be amazed how a bloke carrying a handgun could take on a bloke with a semi automatic 300m away. Unless he was Riggs.

 

Then bit I don't get is how it would pan out if the public engaged a shooter. Shooter walks into a bar and shoots, A sees it and shoots him, person B sees A shooting, he draws his gun. Police arrive, see a dead person and A and B with guns drawn so shoot them. Soon everyone is dead.

[Rico1304]

Here's the definition of domestic terrorism;

 

https://twitter.com/ljoywilliams/status/914821482571804672

[G Richards]

When the US Constitution was written, the issue at hand with regard to the Second Amendment was the perceived threat of rogue government, so people had the right to bear arms in well regulated militias.

 

In the Federalist Papers, written by Thomas Jefferson - the main 'brains' behind the Constitution, he argued an equivalency in armament between the public and the government, so the public could keep the government in check if deemed necessary.

 

America has long since got away from that. If you talk to any Second Amendment advocate about this side of the issue, and then point out that their pea-shooters are massively outmatched by the American military, they either go quiet or say that the military would never do anything against its own people. Maybe. Maybe not. But that was precisely the issue at hand when the Second Amendment was drafted, and the equivalency in armament has long since disappeared.

 

I say this rather tongue-in-cheek, but the logical conclusion for Second Amendment activists who wish to uphold the spirit of the Second Amendment is to get their own nuclear arsenal to balance the government, just in case it does things they don't approve of.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

ISIS claiming he was a Muslim convert and claiming the attack as one of theirs.

 

However, they've provided no evidence to back up this assertion.

[skend04]

ISIS claiming he was a Muslim convert and claiming the attack as one of theirs.

 

However, they've provided no evidence to back up this assertion.

They could use that Daily Mail article.

[Jockey]

Wonder if he was kneeling when he was shooting?

[skend04]

One thing that caught my attention, the sheriff's use of the word tedious to describe the search and investigation of this crime. Was that a go at the gun laws or was it a Trumpism?

[Pureblood]

One thing that caught my attention, the sheriff's use of the word tedious to describe the search and investigation of this crime. Was that a go at the gun laws or was it a Trumpism?

 

Yeah I saw that.  Hard to know what he meant but it didn't seem appropriate.

[Jockey]

I wonder if this was an attack on Trump! A Country music concert, foreign wife?

[Jairzinho]

When the US Constitution was written, the issue at hand with regard to the Second Amendment was the perceived threat of rogue government, so people had the right to bear arms in well regulated militias.

 

In the Federalist Papers, written by Thomas Jefferson - the main 'brains' behind the Constitution, he argued an equivalency in armament between the public and the government, so the public could keep the government in check if deemed necessary.

 

America has long since got away from that. If you talk to any Second Amendment advocate about this side of the issue, and then point out that their pea-shooters are massively outmatched by the American military, they either go quiet or say that the military would never do anything against its own people. Maybe. Maybe not. But that was precisely the issue at hand when the Second Amendment was drafted, and the equivalency in armament has long since disappeared.

 

I say this rather tongue-in-cheek, but the logical conclusion for Second Amendment activists who wish to uphold the spirit of the Second Amendment is to get their own nuclear arsenal to balance the government, just in case it does things they don't approve of.

 

You've got a rogue government now. Sadly, most of the gun owning idiots support it.

[Rico1304]

I'm still waiting.  It doesn't usually take until page 6 on the Muslamic threads.

 

You see when someone blows themselves up or shoots someone and says 'I did this because the X says I should' I take them at their word. Like when Brevic set out his reasons, I believed he was a white supremacist fucking nut job. Like Westboro are Christian nutjobs. It's not fucking hard.

[Section_31]

ISIS yet to claim responsibility for my bowels

[magicrat]

ISIS claiming he was a Muslim convert and claiming the attack as one of theirs.

 

However, they've provided no evidence to back up this assertion.

 

Trump will blame them . 50 dead 400 injured,  Big shooting , very big, probably the biggest.

[dickie mint]

His old man was on the FBI 10 most wanted for apparently being a bank robber years ago according to his brother.

[liverpoolsno9]

Why can't these mad cunts shoot Trump.

[Boss]

The Alt Right are alternating between it all being a "Sandy Hook style hoax" and blaming Soros, Antifa, jews, commies, the CIA, the freemasons and the democrats... unsurprisingly. 

[Jockey]

Maybe he just didn't like Country & Western music?

[Dougie Do'ins]

All the usual nauseating shite being spouted by all the usual people.  Trump, Obama, May, etc. What fucking good is praying for the victims going to do ?

[Jockey]

All the usual nauseating shite being spouted by all the usual people. Trump, Obama, May, etc. What fucking good is praying for the victims going to do ?

In all fairness that is their answer to everything!

[Anubis]

Sympathy from Trump is like your executioner wiping the sweat from your brow before he wields the axe.

 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/amp/trump-signs-bill-revoking-obama-era-gun-checks-people-mental-n727221

[G Richards]

All the usual nauseating shite being spouted by all the usual people.  Trump, Obama, May, etc. What fucking good is praying for the victims going to do ?

 

 

Just want to say we have good friends in Las Vegas who lead a very large congregation. They've opened the church and have been praying with people as they have come in, trying to find some rest or shelter or peace. They've been up all night and have been helping to sort transport and encouraging blood donations from the members of the church and so on. They love their city and the people therein, and they are heartbroken about what has happened, while at the same time they are rolling up their sleeves and doing all they can. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

You see when someone blows themselves up or shoots someone and says 'I did this because the X says I should' I take them at their word. Like when Brevic set out his reasons, I believed he was a white supremacist fucking nut job. Like Westboro are Christian nutjobs. It's not fucking hard.

Apart from the numerous ocassions when attackers have claimed that foreign policy was part of their motivation.

 

You've always ignored that bit. You've, in the past, categorically stated that it's not a motivating factor, even when an attacker has explicitly stated that it was.

[dickie mint]

My lads where in the Mandalay over a week ago and where just saying they where setting the stage up as they passed,ittle do you know what was about to happen.

[Jockey]

And every person who was injured is going to be charged for the privilage of getting shot.

 

Living in America!