Are you living in a simulated reality?

[stringvest]

Would depend on an individual, I guess. Being 'head programmer' suggests there's a team of programmers. So if the Head is god, he'd be one of many lesser gods.

 

 

and no-one's testing their shit code before it goes live

[stringvest]

If a civilisation of some sort could create and manage a simulated civilisation to the point where it became self aware, conscious, and grew to a point where it 'knew' it wasn't actually real, how would the original civilisation manage that? What would they do if their subjects attained such high intelligence that they could think about potentially freeing themselves? 

 

I don't see it, certainly not in a long-term sense, as they would always, no matter what, be far more advanced and would study, learn, predict, measure and absorb any relevant information required long before such occurrences came about.

 

 

meantime, we're just about to do roughly the same thing.  It's the Russian Doll theory. 

[magicrat]

meantime, we're just about to do roughly the same thing.  It's the Russian Doll theory. 

 

I think we will manage to destroy ourselves before we get anywhere close to building a simulated Universe.

Maybe that's the test. 

[jimmycase]

and no-one's testing their shit code before it goes live

 

You cannot test randomness. Its like a twin pivot arm set in motion, you cannot predict the path of the end arm. You can test at a unit and integration level but that's about it.

[Pureblood]

If I'm not at my post and nobody is around to see it maybe I am at my post.

[cloggypop]

This is an interesting thread but it still cracks me up that it was started by a man with 12 accounts.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Who also claims to be a financial wizard. 

[Guest Pistonbroke]

I know (or should I say think) I'm not contributing to this thread in a positive way, but surely that is out of my hands. 

 

*Taps fingers and awaits instructions from simulators. 

[Anubis]

I want my money back from Rekall because it's been shite so far.

[Rotpeter]

The simulation we're living in is metaphysical not physical and was described by Baudrillard.

[Spy Bee]

If we are living in a simulation, who simulated it, and where the fuck did they come from?

[setreal]

Wigan.

[Guest Pistonbroke]

Or maybe's Braintree. 

[Bobby Hundreds]

Probably AI. In this simulation we will create AI and it will wipe us out. Then it realises it itself is a simulant so it creates another simulation wipes it's memory and lives in it in ignorance as every living being living each experience until it creates AI repeating the pattern.

 

Or its bollocks.

[Spy Bee]

Probably AI. In this simulation we will create AI and it will wipe us out. Then it realises it itself is a simulant so it creates another simulation wipes it's memory and lives in it in ignorance as every living being living each experience until it creates AI repeating the pattern.

 

Or its bollocks.

Every circle has got to start somewhere.

[jimmycase]

If we are living in a simulation, who simulated it, and where the fuck did they come from?

 

Im not sure anyone is saying we are living in a simulated reality. Its seems some people have decided that we are is the basis to de bunk the theory.

[Bobby Hundreds]

Every circle has got to start somewhere.

It has but the odds of us being that one civilisation that begins it are against us.

 

The drake equation people use to say there is definitely alien life out there is another maths probability thing that is based on the fact because there is life on this planet then there must be life on others even if it's only one in every ( made up number). Maybe we are the only life, maybe we will be the first to create a simulation. Maybe we did make a simulation and died out but the simulation is running and we are a programme based on the culmination of billions of people over hundreds of years putting their entire lives onto film and social media. It's all science fiction. There's an episode of rick and morty they go to an arcade and there's a game where you live an entire life as a guy named roy. Plus there's the red dwarf one. The simulation theory alongside AI is fascinating stuff though.

[jimmycase]

It has but the odds of us being that one civilisation that begins it are against us.

 

The drake equation people use to say there is definitely alien life out there is another maths probability thing that is based on the fact because there is life on this planet then there must be life on others even if it's only one in every ( made up number). Maybe we are the only life, maybe we will be the first to create a simulation. Maybe we did make a simulation and died out but the simulation is running and we are a programme based on the culmination of billions of people over hundreds of years putting their entire lives onto film and social media. It's all science fiction. There's an episode of rick and morty they go to an arcade and there's a game where you live an entire life as a guy named roy. Plus there's the red dwarf one. The simulation theory alongside AI is fascinating stuff though.

 

Not really. Despite the Universe's age, its still massively young compared to what it will age to be. There's something like 70 trillion years (give or take a billion) of star forming years to go. That's 70 trillion years for more potential Earth like planets to be created and bring forth intelligent civilisations.

 

Although the Drake Equation is being refined the more we find out, the intelligence quotion is still based on 1 ie Earth and 1 times 1 is 1. Until evidence of a second intelligent civilisation beyond the Solar System is found, the Drake Equation's results are really not much more than guesses.

[Cardie]

[Cardie]

This is an interesting thread but it still cracks me up that it was started by a man with 12 accounts.

 

 

[stringvest]

You cannot test randomness. Its like a twin pivot arm set in motion, you cannot predict the path of the end arm. You can test at a unit and integration level but that's about it.

 

 

that all sounds a bit complicated for me Jim.

[jimmycase]

that all sounds a bit complicated for me Jim.

 

What, the randomness bit or the unit \ integration bit?

[jimmycase]

This vid shows the unpredictability of a twin pivot. It starts off swinging like a pendulum but soon chaos ensues and the second pivot goes anywhere it wants.

 

So, in theory, no intelligent being could determine how a simulated reality was going to progress and endup.

 

 

[Bobby Hundreds]

How do you know if something is or isnt random unless you test it or observe it long enough. Yellow sponges.

[jimmycase]

How do you know if something is or isnt random unless you test it or observe it long enough. Yellow sponges.

 

Depends on what the requirement was, either to be predictable or unpredictable. That would be determined in the code. The reality would follow a predictable path where the code was so constructed ie certain circumstances, events or outcome being pre determined. Where it's left random as in the twin pivot example, you wouldnt be able to predict what the circumstances, events or outcomes were or when they happened.