Should Corbyn remain as Labour leader?

[Anubis]

 

 

[Gnasher]

 

 

 

[SasaS]

10 minutes ago, Arniepie said:

personally I would have thought his "main enemy" would be the cunts currently destroying the country. 

 

They are not in his party.

 

16 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Its been since Starmer decided to throw Corbyn out of the party. Corbyns is now just a back bench MP. Backbenchers of all sides defy the party whip regularly. If Starmer sticks to the pledges that won him the leadership contest I'd doubt if we'd see a many rebellions. 

 

Anyway a number of Tories voted against Sunaks Nth Ireland Bill, including two former PMs, many will defy him over his immigration bill. Many Labour MPs listened to their constituents and voted against Blair over the Iraq war, including Robin Cook and Jeremy Corbyn. It's called British democracy and if every MP meekly followed the party line on every issue the country would be poorer for it.

 

It's either deepy personal or he still sees Corbyn as a rallying point for the opposition within the party.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Creator Supreme said:

It'd be more honest if Starmer said I'm blocking Corbyn standing because I don't like socialists!

 

In a nutshell.

 

Although Labour now have people such as below to take their place.

 

[Gnasher]

Islington North is gonna see a lot more of this for the next 18 months.

 

 

 

Paradoxically Corbyn, instead of being the media bogeyman could soon be cast by the media as some sort of good guy if he starts criticising Keir Starmer and the official Labour Islington candidate. They will lap it up.

 

 

[Bjornebye]

 

 

 

[Anubis]

Starmer will continue with his war on the left until he’s removed socialism from the party. It will allow him to better sell his the idea of not repealing the vast majority of authoritarian measures the Tories have introduced. Better to have the people who will be vocal outside than inside.

[SasaS]

3 hours ago, Gnasher said:

Islington North is gonna see a lot more of this for the next 18 months.

 

 

 

Paradoxically Corbyn, instead of being the media bogeyman could soon be cast by the media as some sort of good guy if he starts criticising Keir Starmer and the official Labour Islington candidate. They will lap it up.

 

 

Typical Corbyn, pushing his agenda of giving away baklavas, even on people trying to lose weight.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Starmer’s a lying, slimy cunt. 

[Poor Scouser T]

Whether you agree with JC and his views is irrelevant. Electorally he is toxic.

This could be handled better but Starmer is pandering to the middle as the left will never vote Tory so are an irrelevance.

[Gnasher]

58 minutes ago, SasaS said:

Typical Corbyn, pushing his agenda of giving away baklavas, even on people trying to lose weight.

 

 

 

Against the rules isn't it? Politicans giving out bribes.

[Gnasher]

1 hour ago, Bjornebye said:

 

 

 

 

Sakar is the sharpest political journo on the circuit imo.

 

 

 

 

[Denny Crane]

Strange country when you have to expel the former opposition leader to appease a cadre of editors and a bunch of Labour right weirdos. 

 

I'd add the expulsion of Corbyn is far less to do with him but to warn MPS and activists not to do get any silly ideas of Social Democracy.

 

 

[Gnasher]

Well said Beth. Hope a few more break ranks.

 

 

 

 

[Poor Scouser T]

11 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

Strange country when you have to expel the former opposition leader to appease a cadre of editors and a weird bunch of Labour right weirdos. 

 

I'd add the expulsion of Corbyn is far less to do with him but to warn MPS and activists not to do get any silly ideas of Social Democracy.

 

 

Its not about morality, right vs wrong etc it's politics. Pure and simple. It is about winning an election

[Gnasher]

16 minutes ago, Denny Crane said:

Strange country when you have to expel the former opposition leader to appease a cadre of editors and a bunch of Labour right weirdos. 

 

I'd add the expulsion of Corbyn is far less to do with him but to warn MPS and activists not to do get any silly ideas of Social Democracy.

 

 

 

Every shadow cabinet minister is a member of the Labour Friends of Israel.

[sir roger]

I think the reasoning on the NEC motion is more important than whether Corbyn is allowed to stand or not. Basically it is stating that over a hundred years of precedent regarding members rights are moot, and anybody can be barred from trying to be a Labour mp on the whim of the leader. 

 

Whether the NEC members are pro or anti Starmer if they vote for the motion they may as well not turn up for any future meetings and just have a stamp made for Starmer to agree motions.

[Poor Scouser T]

Has anyone watched PMQ's? About the only stick they use to beat Starmer with is JC. Hard business but sorry Jeremy you are history.

[Creator Supreme]

20 minutes ago, Gnasher said:

 

Every shadow cabinet minister is a member of the Labour Friends of Israel.

Is that actually true?

[Poor Scouser T]

If your party is constantly accused of antisemitism all join the friends of Israel. And boot JC.

[sir roger]

The main 4 or 5 are all 'Friends', don't know about all of them, it's quite a big cabinet.

[sir roger]

1 minute ago, Poor Scouser T said:

If your party is constantly accused of antisemitism all join the friends of Israel. And boot JC.

 

What if its your own party doing most of the accusing ( lying ) ?

[Poor Scouser T]

Are people actually thinking these people have morals in the same way we do? It's a game, it's all about appearance. One or two do, including JC, but that is a weakness and will eat you.

[Poor Scouser T]

2 minutes ago, sir roger said:

 

What if its your own party doing most of the accusing ( lying ) ?

Expel them

[sir roger]

Just now, Poor Scouser T said:

Expel them

They're running the place, PST.