Should the UK remain a member of the EU

[skend04]

Current share estimated as 28% Brexit Party and 24% Lib Dems. A whitewash indeed...

[Brownie]

4 minutes ago, skend04 said:

Current share estimated as 28% Brexit Party and 24% Lib Dems. A whitewash indeed...

32% Brexit vs 32% Remain at the moment I think.

[Strontium]

On 23/05/2019 at 22:27, Numero Veinticinco said:

What time do we get to see the massive success of Lib Dems? 

 

Enjoying it so far, NV?

[aRdja]

 

It’s a pertinent question I feel. 

[Pureblood]

Trust in Corbs.

[Brownie]

7 minutes ago, viRdjil said:

 

It’s a pertinent question I feel. 

It’s the big question. Anyone who is staunchly remain or leave hates Corbyn now but if he came out and unequivocally backed either option he’d lose the other half just like that *clicks fingers*.

 

And the funniest thing is that both sides seem to refuse to see that. They think that a pivot to their side will solve everything but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

 

At some point Labour will have to pivot and it will be a massive gamble. It’s all about timing.

[Megadrive Man]

Agreed.

 

I think Labour had something like 7 million remain voters and 5 million leave voters at the last General Election?

 

Its pretty obvious why they haven't come out in really strong support of either option.

 

 

[Megadrive Man]

Also if Labour came out in strong support of remain it would just give the Torys and the media the narrative that Corbyn was the man stopping Brexit.

[Brownie]

1 minute ago, MegadriveMan said:

Agreed.

 

I think Labour had something like 7 million remain voters and 5 million leave voters at the last General Election?

 

Its pretty obvious why they haven't come out in really strong support of either option.

 

 

Which makes it all the more baffling when people on either side spit their dummies out without refusing to accept that the other side even exists.

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

7 minutes ago, Brownie said:

At some point Labour will have to pivot and it will be a massive gamble. It’s all about timing.

 

It'll probably be once a new Tory leader has been elected. I can see a vote of no confidence motion going in early, maybe with some wheeling and dealing with the Tory factions who've said they will act against their new leader if they actively pursue a no deal Brexit. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

7 minutes ago, Brownie said:

 

And the funniest thing is that both sides seem to refuse to see that. They think that a pivot to their side will solve everything but that couldn’t be further from the truth.

 

There is a tendency for both sides of the Brexit argument to either pretend that the other side don't exist or just assume that they can be shouted down. 

 

The whole thing is an absolute shitshow of division and destruction... still, David Cameron's got a new book coming out, so I'm sure that will be super.

[Brownie]

5 minutes ago, Nelly-Torres said:

 

It'll probably be once a new Tory leader has been elected. I can see a vote of no confidence motion going in early, maybe with some wheeling and dealing with the Tory factions who've said they will act against their new leader if they actively pursue a no deal Brexit. 

They say that but there’s no way the Tories will bring down their own party. They care far more about self preservation than they do the country.

[Rico1304]

And here’s to you Tommy Robinson 

Oldham hates you more than you will know. 

[Rico1304]

2 minutes ago, Brownie said:

They say that but there’s no way the Tories will bring down their own party. They care far more about self preservation than they do the country.

Whereas Labour seem to be happy for us to leave the EU too. Horseshoe. 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Belinda Claire De Camborne Lucy and Annunziata Mary Rees-Mogg have both been elected as MEPs for the Brexit Party.

 

Is right Nige, stick it to the establishment and elites...

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

Hahaha. 

 

Everybody laughing in Manchester when Waxey-Lemon's vote total was read out. 

 

Lovely stuff! 

[Brownie]

Okay so Remain parties are now polling higher than Leave pretty consistently.

[mattyq]

29 minutes ago, MegadriveMan said:

Agreed.

 

I think Labour had something like 7 million remain voters and 5 million leave voters at the last General Election?

 

Its pretty obvious why they haven't come out in really strong support of either option.

 

 

Nowhere near - it was 65% to 35% voted remain... 2 out of 3 Labour voters voted Remain

Corbyn's Brexit policy has been a disaster and an obvious policy failure, The sooner it's changed the better. Labour should be showing leadership on this 

[Nelly-Szoboszlai]

1,760 votes for Waxey-Lemon in the Liverpool Counting Area. 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

Just now, mattyq said:

Nowhere near - it was 65% to 35% voted remain... 2 out of 3 Labour voters voted Remain

Corbyn's Brexit policy has been a disaster and an obvious policy failure, The sooner it's changed the better. Labour should be showing leadership on this 

The policy was set by Conference; it's not "Corbyn's policy".

 

It's neither a disaster nor an obvious failure. It's still the only sensible Brexit  policy on offer from any party.

[Brownie]

4 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Nowhere near - it was 65% to 35% voted remain... 2 out of 3 Labour voters voted Remain

Corbyn's Brexit policy has been a disaster and an obvious policy failure, The sooner it's changed the better. Labour should be showing leadership on this 

I live in the North East and trust me when I say this, if Labour backs a 2nd referendum they will lose swathes of votes up here for a General Election.

[AngryOfTuebrook]

1 minute ago, Nelly-Torres said:

1,760 votes for Waxey-Lemon in the Liverpool Counting Area. 

 

[mattyq]

Just now, AngryofTuebrook said:

The policy was set by Conference; it's not "Corbyn's policy".

 

It's neither a disaster nor an obvious failure. It's still the only sensible Brexit  policy on offer from any party.

Mate, Labour have just got absolutely twatted everywhere.

It's very obviously a shit policy 

[AngryOfTuebrook]

 

[Brownie]

2 minutes ago, mattyq said:

Mate, Labour have just got absolutely twatted everywhere.

It's very obviously a shit policy 

If their policy was clearer, the results wouldn’t necessarily be any better. It’s just a case of moving votes around.