The New Star Wars Films

[Cardie]

Do I need to put my theories in spoilers even  though they're just theories? Can't do tags on this Mac for some reason. 

 

 

Anyway. I'll put it below. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suspect Kylo and Dassy are Solo and Leia's kids and Han dies at Kylo's hands. That's why they've both got the force as they're Anakin's grandkids. I also wonder if Fin is Lando's kid, as none of the merchandise features a second name. 

 

I think Daisy and Kylo being related has been mooted for a while still remains to be seen whether it's brother and sister or cousins.

 

Finn being Lando's son would be a bit too meta.

[Section_31]

I think Daisy and Kylo being related has been mooted for a while still remains to be seen whether it's brother and sister or cousins.

 

Finn being Lando's son would be a bit too meta.

Yeah, I was just curious as to why there was no mention of his second name. I never read the book but I'm sure one of Han's kids went slightly off the rails.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Do I need to put my theories in spoilers even though they're just theories? Can't do tags on this Mac for some reason.

 

 

Anyway. I'll put it below.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I suspect Kylo and Dassy are Solo and Leia's kids and Han dies at Kylo's hands. That's why they've both got the force as they're Anakin's grandkids. I also wonder if Fin is Lando's kid, as none of the merchandise features a second name.

Jacen and Jaina?

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Yeah, I was just curious as to why there was no mention of his second name. I never read the book but I'm sure one of Han's kids went slightly off the rails.

 

Jacen becomes Darth Caedus.

[Section_31]

Jacen becomes Darth Caedus.

Ah.

 

Well I certainly think they've based a lot of the new film loosely on the books.

 

Fin's stormtrooper is almost identical to a book called allegiance, where four stormtroopers refuse orders to burn down a village and become like an intergalactic A team.

 

The first order also sounds like the imperial remnant.

 

In the heir to the empire trilogy there is also a dark version of Luke who has been cloned from the original's severed hand. I wonder if that could be a story element too.

[Skidfingers McGonical]

Ah.

 

Well I certainly think they've based a lot of the new film loosely on the books.

 

Fin's stormtrooper is almost identical to a book called allegiance, where four stormtroopers refuse orders to burn down a village and become like an intergalactic A team.

 

The first order also sounds like the imperial remnant.

 

In the heir to the empire trilogy there is also a dark version of Luke who has been cloned from the original's severed hand. I wonder if that could be a story element too.

I hope they have because it keeps a good timeline going.

 

Jacen is a far more complex character than Anakin or Luke as he believed in both sides of the force and not just one.

 

If they are following that angle then I am very happy with that.

 

 

[Karl_b]

Quite fancy reading some of the Star Wars novels but there are so many of them that I don't know where to start, other than the beginning. It's made even harder with the consideration of what is or isn't considered official canon. Thought I might just pick out odd collections and story arcs - any suggestions?

[Section_31]

Quite fancy reading some of the Star Wars novels but there are so many of them that I don't know where to start, other than the beginning. It's made even harder with the consideration of what is or isn't considered official canon. Thought I might just pick out odd collections and story arcs - any suggestions?

Heir to the empire trilogy mate, trust me.

[SilverSong]

Heir to the empire trilogy mate, trust me.

Agreed, even though it is non-canon.

My daughter Jaina also agrees. She is well miffed they changed her name to Rey for Force Awakens.

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[RedKnight]

Fuck's sake. Mark it NSFW in the future, people read these threads in work.

[Juniper]

Heir to the empire trilogy mate, trust me.

Seconded, great books those if you want to read up on the EU.

 

Currently going through the second batch of Timothy Zahn books but Spector of the Past hasn't grabbed me as much. Struggling to get through it currently.

 

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Fuck's sake. Mark it NSFW in the future, people read these threads in work.

Soz RedKnight. Ta for sorting it.

[Juniper]

In fact Karl, if you want them if you're happy to bung me a few quid for postage I'll send you the three books.

 

Bought them second hand a few months ago and they'll only sit gathering dust I guess.

 

Let me know.

 

[Section_31]

In fact Karl, if you want them if you're happy to bung me a few quid for postage I'll send you the three books.

 

Bought them second hand a few months ago and they'll only sit gathering dust I guess.

 

Let me know.

I had the graphic novels too, they're ace.

[Juniper]

I had the graphic novels too, they're ace.

 

Yeah I might get round to checking them out, Thrawn is such a good character.

 

Hoping that there's a chance that's who Benico Del Toro has been cast as in Episode 8 as he's confirmed he's a villain.

 

I think he would play the part fairly well, not that it will happen. Just feels that the EU will not be used. Mara Jade and Thrawn would be good calls

[RedKnight]

Haven't Disney/Lucasfilm unequivocally said they won't be using any EU stuff? I don't blame them either to be honest.

[Juniper]

Oh really? Makes sense as from what I've read a lot of the latter EU stuff was pretty poor.

[RedKnight]

Sure I read that not long after they bought the rights.

[Hades]

The EU stuff post ROTJ is better than the prequel trilogy. I prefer to pretend the prequels and associated content never happened. 

[Section_31]

I'm not sure some of the expanded universe stuff would work in a JJ Abrams film as it's often pretty deep. Thrawn for example is an extremely complex character. Neither villain nor hero, more like Sherlock Holmes than Vader. What Abrams proved with the star trek reboots is that deep shit isn't his forte, they're like cartoon versions of spock and kirk. That's no bad thing for a star wars film though, as long as it's done right.

[Juniper]

I'm not sure some of the expanded universe stuff would work in a JJ Abrams film as it's often pretty deep. Thrawn for example is an extremely complex character. Neither villain nor hero, more like Sherlock Holmes than Vader. What Abrams proved with the star trek reboots is that deep shit isn't his forte, they're like cartoon versions of spock and kirk. That's no bad thing for a star wars film though, as long as it's done right.

I'd have to agree with the Sherlock Holmes comparison Sech, in picking clues when engaging/planning strategies for battles but he definitely was a villain in wanting to crush wipe out the rebellion and restore the Empire, just not for his own personal gain/glory is all.

 

The treatment of the Noghri folk one example.

[Section_31]

I'd have to agree with the Sherlock Holmes comparison Sech, in picking clues when engaging/planning strategies for battles but he definitely was a villain in wanting to crush wipe out the rebellion and restore the Empire, just not for his own personal gain/glory is all. The treatment of the Noghri folk one example.

Yeah true. I just read a description of him once which said he felt the rebellions was simply 'a problem that needed to be solved'. He'd been picked to be an imperial admiral and as far as he was concerned it was his duty to defeat them.

 

There were examples though of where he deliberately avoided unnecessary bloodshed. He's just an awesome character.

 

'Do not presume to dictate to me Mara Jade, not even in private.'

[RedKnight]

Interesting information can be gleaned from the action figues. For instance what was a rebel trooper now appears to be a resistance trooper.

[Anubis]

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