found out something today...

[Bob]

i actually found out a few things, but all but one are not even slightly interesting outside of my own personal world.

 

The one that is, is that John Venables (he of the sticking batteries up the arse of poor james bulger infamy) was living in my town for the last 10 years of his shitty life (including where he was holed up under custody) until having to move out to stay at her majesty's pleasure in wakefield due to liking photos of young children too much.

 

shame you find out about these things after the event. I could have lit a torch, bought a pitchfork and would have been happy to mobilise a mob.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Oh god, what 'av' you started son.

[bigbak]

Think you could have worded your description of him differently without referring to the little lad.

[JohnnyH]

The batteries thing is a myth isn't it?

[gingerhulk]

A fella from Scotland (I think he was from Scotland) killed himself a few weeks ago because he was accused of being one of the bugler killers.

 

People need to be very very careful of accusing someone for such a horrendous crime.

 

Btw Bob, you are a fucking twat, what was need in saying that about the little lad? I think we all know who Venables is and if we didn't, I don't think you had to use that 'information' to explain who he is.

[melons]

Edit, fuck it.

[Anubis]

There were no batteries. Any chance people could stop perpetuating the myth.

[Kevin D]

A fella from Scotland (I think he was from Scotland) killed himself a few weeks ago because he was accused of being one of the bugler killers.

 

People need to be very very careful of accusing someone for such a horrendous crime.

Btw Bob, you are a fucking twat, what was need in saying that about the little lad? I think we all know who Venables is and if we didn't, I don't think you had to use that 'information' to explain who he is.

 

That sounds like Jon Venables talk to me.

[The Golden Eel]

This won't end well. It's a depressing subject, someone should just lock this thread.

[JohnnyH]

I always struggle to work out while persons murder is acceptable to take about in less then respectful tones and which one isn’t………

 

Yes, for the avoidance of doubt, I am talking about hypocrisy. Surely we show respect to all, or none at all?

[mattyq]

I think it's pretty fucking obvious that the crime was so awful and despicable and evil that everybody not a lunatic can agree to that.

Sometimes the only way to deal with these things without getting depressed is to inject a little humour, no?

[Duff Man]

I always struggle to work out while persons murder is acceptable to take about in less then respectful tones and which one isn’t………

 

Yes, for the avoidance of doubt, I am talking about hypocrisy. Surely we show respect to all, or none at all?

 

Some murders are more barbaric than others, no?

[Paulie Dangerously]

When I go out with my mates in cardiff they often threaten to tell people that I'm him. The scamps

[Anubis]

I always struggle to work out while persons murder is acceptable to take about in less then respectful tones and which one isn’t………

 

Yes, for the avoidance of doubt, I am talking about hypocrisy. Surely we show respect to all, or none at all?

 

Black humour aways has, and always will exist as a coping mechanism. Buy the mythalogical battery story isn't black humour. Just myth masquerading as fact.

[Bob]

the selective morality of the GF, i should have known better.

[Joe Le Taxi]

Don't worry man, at least you didn't stick batteries up peoples arses.

 

Right?

[JohnnyH]

Some murders are more barbaric than others, no?

 

Absolutely. I just wonder where the line gets drawn? Of course to answer my own question, there is no line and it all depends on where it happened, who it happened to, etc.

 

The same set of things could happen to a kid in Africa and while the level of disgust would remain the same, the allowance for black humour would no doubt be greater.

 

Black humour aways has, and always will exist as a coping mechanism. Buy the mythalogical battery story isn't black humour. Just myth masquerading as fact.

 

I know, thus why I posed the question further up. Nothing like a good myth to add to an already horrific circumstance.

 

Don't worry man, at least you didn't stick batteries up peoples arses.

 

Right?

 

If you’re trying to suggest anyone is saying that what they did wasn’t as bad because the battery stuff is myth, then I think that’s a bit stupid.

[Bob]

right, I'll say a few final things in this clearly ill advised thread.

 

1. I agree, there was no need for any description in here. The fact that somebody was killed obviously does make this a topic that should be dealt with in a more respectful manner and i agree, it should be irrelevant whether it was a little boy, an old man, a high flying banker or a vagrant, no life is no more or less precious than another.

 

2. I obviously had no intention of raising a mob, and it was in fact only right that i had no idea he was living in my town while he was here, otherwise someone less sensible than I may well have done something silly.

 

3. I genuinely didn't know the act i referenced was untrue - if i had, i'd have mentioned something else - and still been castigated for it but by fewer people.

 

4. I am now better informed than i was when i posted, which is positive.

 

5. there is a massive amount of hypocrisy in evidence on this forum and it seems to be quite often based on where someone is from.

[Guest ShoePiss]

I don't understand 5.

[Captain Turdseye]

I don't understand 5.

 

Really?

[Guest ShoePiss]

Really?

 

Yes.

[Bob]

I don't understand 5.

 

if something affect liverpool its not an acceptable topic, if it affects somewhere else, it's fair game. that sort of thing.

 

not everyone, and not all the time, but often.

[Joe Le Taxi]

If you’re trying to suggest anyone is saying that what they did wasn’t as bad because the battery stuff is myth, then I think that’s a bit stupid.

 

Not really, I was just surprised at the moral outrage from the GF on this thread, despite most other subjects being fair game.

 

The OP was getting a shitload of abuse, so I remarked sarcastically that at least he didn't do what he alleged Venables did. Sheesh, tough crowd...

[Guest ShoePiss]

if something affect liverpool its not an acceptable topic, if it affects somewhere else, it's fair game. that sort of thing.

 

not everyone, and not all the time, but often.

 

Oh.

[JohnnyH]

Not really, I was just surprised at the moral outrage from the GF on this thread, despite most other subjects being fair game.

 

The OP was getting a shitload of abuse, so I remarked sarcastically that at least he didn't do what he alleged Venables did. Sheesh, tough crowd...

 

I certainly agree that the moral outrage on this thread is pretty daft.